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C70R said:
The internet is a funny old place. A place where people feel emboldened by the anonymity of their username.
I had this conversation at the pub last night with a group of friends, all of whom have bought and sold at least one property in London.
The general consensus was "If you don't ask, you don't get. But be prepared for him to say no."
Nobody called me a four-letter expletive, or "scum". Nobody suggested I was taking advantage of the 'poor' seller.
And the general consensus on here is that it’s a lowlife, sI had this conversation at the pub last night with a group of friends, all of whom have bought and sold at least one property in London.
The general consensus was "If you don't ask, you don't get. But be prepared for him to say no."
Nobody called me a four-letter expletive, or "scum". Nobody suggested I was taking advantage of the 'poor' seller.
tty thing to do.Use your London friends or your poppycock about it being something of “variable value” to justify it to yourself if you wish, but don’t expect posters on here to shake your hand and congratulate you for being ‘shrewd’…..
You made a deal. Stick to your deal.
C70R said:
Thank you for proving my point.
I'm not sure anyone knows what your point even is 
yes you can now submit a lower bid, and yes a lot of people on this thread will think you're a dick for doing so. These are not arguments, they're fact. Whether that bothers you or not is your own personal concern, attacking the posters here for telling you the brutal truth isnt going to change their opinions of you.
Jaska said:
I'm not sure anyone knows what your point even is yes you can now submit a lower bid, and yes a lot of people on this thread will think you're a dick for doing so.
These are not arguments, they're fact. Whether that bothers you or not is your own personal concern, attacking the posters here for telling you the brutal truth isnt going to change their opinions of you.
I'm not "attacking" anyone here. yes you can now submit a lower bid, and yes a lot of people on this thread will think you're a dick for doing so. These are not arguments, they're fact. Whether that bothers you or not is your own personal concern, attacking the posters here for telling you the brutal truth isnt going to change their opinions of you.
If anything, I've been the target for lots of personal abuse and attacks just for asking a question. All seems a bit keyboard warriorish and unnecessary.
Muzzer79 said:
C70R said:
normalbloke said:
C70R said:
We're on the verge of exchanging (last bits of paperwork being done), and I'm contemplating throwing a slightly lower offer at the buyer. Curious if the experiences of those who've done the same...
For context, the house is an absolute unicorn (I haven't seen anything comparable for less than 1m in two years of looking), to the extent that I think it's relatively downturn-proof (<300/sqft). The buyer needs to sell (relationship break-down) and is getting increasingly erratic/needy about our exchange.
We're in a good position with this being a second home, and having no chain (we're not selling, he's moving in with family), and being relatively expensive I think the prospective audience is reasonably small. We've only ever bought one property each, and both were simple asking price purchases 8-9yrs ago, so have no experience of haggling.
We made our original offer in April and don't need it to be cheaper, but I'm always open for a bit of negotiation. Thoughts?
It’s called For context, the house is an absolute unicorn (I haven't seen anything comparable for less than 1m in two years of looking), to the extent that I think it's relatively downturn-proof (<300/sqft). The buyer needs to sell (relationship break-down) and is getting increasingly erratic/needy about our exchange.
We're in a good position with this being a second home, and having no chain (we're not selling, he's moving in with family), and being relatively expensive I think the prospective audience is reasonably small. We've only ever bought one property each, and both were simple asking price purchases 8-9yrs ago, so have no experience of haggling.
We made our original offer in April and don't need it to be cheaper, but I'm always open for a bit of negotiation. Thoughts?
Edited by C70R on Friday 8th July 19:12
ery, for good reason.tty thing to doA deal is a deal. Stick to your deal. It’s the right thing to do.
Muzzer79 said:
And the general consensus on here is that it’s a lowlife, stty thing to do.
Use your London friends or your poppycock about it being something of “variable value” to justify it to yourself if you wish, but don’t expect posters on here to shake your hand and congratulate you for being ‘shrewd’…..
You made a deal. Stick to your deal.
I'm not sure I invited the character assassination by asking for advice, but I appreciate the effort you've put in nonetheless. tty thing to do.Use your London friends or your poppycock about it being something of “variable value” to justify it to yourself if you wish, but don’t expect posters on here to shake your hand and congratulate you for being ‘shrewd’…..
You made a deal. Stick to your deal.
All I can say is if you were about to do it to me.
First I would talk to the estate agent, Remember they are on commission of the sales price so won't want it to drop even a little bit. They will also probably tell you how many offers they had and what it was like when it was on the market and what the local market is like. Talk to another estate agent in the area if you want to get the real story.
Don't get sucked in by the house price index reports, Sales are still happening in houses it's flats that are bringing it down. There's a huge rush to get new places before interest rises. There's a line of people to buy houses at the moment. More than likely the house has gone UP in value.
Personally, I would stop the sale, I feel out of principle. I know we would have someone else looking around in the morning.
You might get two replies, A no or an ok we will sell to someone else. That's the risk your going to take.
First I would talk to the estate agent, Remember they are on commission of the sales price so won't want it to drop even a little bit. They will also probably tell you how many offers they had and what it was like when it was on the market and what the local market is like. Talk to another estate agent in the area if you want to get the real story.
Don't get sucked in by the house price index reports, Sales are still happening in houses it's flats that are bringing it down. There's a huge rush to get new places before interest rises. There's a line of people to buy houses at the moment. More than likely the house has gone UP in value.
Personally, I would stop the sale, I feel out of principle. I know we would have someone else looking around in the morning.
You might get two replies, A no or an ok we will sell to someone else. That's the risk your going to take.
C70R said:
Muzzer79 said:
And the general consensus on here is that it’s a lowlife, stty thing to do.
Use your London friends or your poppycock about it being something of “variable value” to justify it to yourself if you wish, but don’t expect posters on here to shake your hand and congratulate you for being ‘shrewd’…..
You made a deal. Stick to your deal.
I'm not sure I invited the character assassination by asking for advice, but I appreciate the effort you've put in nonetheless. tty thing to do.Use your London friends or your poppycock about it being something of “variable value” to justify it to yourself if you wish, but don’t expect posters on here to shake your hand and congratulate you for being ‘shrewd’…..
You made a deal. Stick to your deal.
C70R said:
We're on the verge of exchanging (last bits of paperwork being done), and I'm contemplating throwing a slightly lower offer at the buyer. Curious if the experiences of those who've done the same...
For context, the house is an absolute unicorn (I haven't seen anything comparable for less than 1m in two years of looking), to the extent that I think it's relatively downturn-proof (<300/sqft). The buyer needs to sell (relationship break-down) and is getting increasingly erratic/needy about our exchange.
We're in a good position with this being a second home, and having no chain (we're not selling, he's moving in with family), and being relatively expensive I think the prospective audience is reasonably small. We've only ever bought one property each, and both were simple asking price purchases 8-9yrs ago, so have no experience of haggling.
We made our original offer in April and don't need it to be cheaper, but I'm always open for a bit of negotiation. Thoughts?
You asked for opinions - “Thoughts”For context, the house is an absolute unicorn (I haven't seen anything comparable for less than 1m in two years of looking), to the extent that I think it's relatively downturn-proof (<300/sqft). The buyer needs to sell (relationship break-down) and is getting increasingly erratic/needy about our exchange.
We're in a good position with this being a second home, and having no chain (we're not selling, he's moving in with family), and being relatively expensive I think the prospective audience is reasonably small. We've only ever bought one property each, and both were simple asking price purchases 8-9yrs ago, so have no experience of haggling.
We made our original offer in April and don't need it to be cheaper, but I'm always open for a bit of negotiation. Thoughts?
Edited by C70R on Friday 8th July 19:12
Don’t get sensitive because you’ve received them.
C70R said:
The internet is a funny old place. A place where people feel emboldened by the anonymity of their username.
I had this conversation at the pub last night with a group of friends, all of whom have bought and sold at least one property in London.
The general consensus was "If you don't ask, you don't get. But be prepared for him to say no."
Nobody called me a four-letter expletive, or "scum". Nobody suggested I was taking advantage of the 'poor' seller.
You’re right being anonymous makes it different - likely most of your friends thought the same as every contributor here, why wouldn’t they?I had this conversation at the pub last night with a group of friends, all of whom have bought and sold at least one property in London.
The general consensus was "If you don't ask, you don't get. But be prepared for him to say no."
Nobody called me a four-letter expletive, or "scum". Nobody suggested I was taking advantage of the 'poor' seller.
Desiderata said:
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
Might not go the way you want.
Exactly this, someone tried to do it to me years ago. I bit the bullet, told them to fk off, then sold to the next highest bidder. I had the added advantage that this was in Scotland and I was able to sue the tt for the difference between his initial offer and the price I actually sold it for. It was only a couple of thousand pounds, but it was so sweet to screw him over instead of the other way around.Edited by johnnyBv8 on Saturday 9th July 13:47
C70R said:
We're on the verge of exchanging (last bits of paperwork being done), and I'm contemplating throwing a slightly lower offer at the buyer. Curious if the experiences of those who've done the same...
For context, the house is an absolute unicorn (I haven't seen anything comparable for less than 1m in two years of looking), to the extent that I think it's relatively downturn-proof (<300/sqft). The buyer needs to sell (relationship break-down) and is getting increasingly erratic/needy about our exchange.
We're in a good position with this being a second home, and having no chain (we're not selling, he's moving in with family), and being relatively expensive I think the prospective audience is reasonably small. We've only ever bought one property each, and both were simple asking price purchases 8-9yrs ago, so have no experience of haggling.
We made our original offer in April and don't need it to be cheaper, but I'm always open for a bit of negotiation. Thoughts?
I'm not going to join in the pile on as I'm not sure it's entirely warranted, however in this situation I would stick to the deal in the table. If there were loads of comparable properties available then sure, but if it as much if a unicorn as you say I'm not sure I'd be risking the vendor suggesting you go forth and multiply when it seems a property you're particularly smitten with.For context, the house is an absolute unicorn (I haven't seen anything comparable for less than 1m in two years of looking), to the extent that I think it's relatively downturn-proof (<300/sqft). The buyer needs to sell (relationship break-down) and is getting increasingly erratic/needy about our exchange.
We're in a good position with this being a second home, and having no chain (we're not selling, he's moving in with family), and being relatively expensive I think the prospective audience is reasonably small. We've only ever bought one property each, and both were simple asking price purchases 8-9yrs ago, so have no experience of haggling.
We made our original offer in April and don't need it to be cheaper, but I'm always open for a bit of negotiation. Thoughts?
Edited by C70R on Friday 8th July 19:12
Can't say I'm sure the risk of losing it is worth 10k or so, especially when properties like that don't come up for sale every day.
C70R said:
Muzzer79 said:
You asked for opinions - “Thoughts”
Don’t get sensitive because you’ve received them.
I asked for the experiences of people who have done it before.Don’t get sensitive because you’ve received them.
I got a load of angry keyboard warriors, who've never done it before, throwing personal insults at me.
Classic PH.
Now you’re claiming to be a victim.
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