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Evoluzione said:
I note you didn't see or quote the last paragraph in my post you quoted.
I was not aware of a missing paragraph.
You can't heat a whole house on a log burner alone, it needs one with a back boiler and the associated equipment which costs a lot of money.
I can and do heat my house with a 13 KW log burner. It's a small two up two down house.
Time isn't free, the meter is always running. As per above personally I could be earning money (to pay for gas) instead of setting up to burn wood.
My free time is free. I only charge money when carrying out work of my chosen trade.
Nice looking carrot. The rest is fruit which also looks nice.
It tastes just like the Supermarket supplied stuff which costs less. You take your eggs to someone and get them to cook them with others and do a taste test.
To quote a pal after asking how were the eggs I gave you?
Erm yes ok but a bit to eggy for me,I will stick to the bland shop ones.
It's the automotive equivalent of fitting a different kind of air filter and claiming the car is more powerful, so much so you can actually feel it. Bulls
t. I know it, i've proved it, but it won't stop people from doing it.
Agreed.
The above is all hard fact, but that's not why we do it. We don't do things for factual sensible reasons, we do them because it makes us feel good, we like to learn, to master to have new things and many other reasons, we do it because we're human.
I thought you said previously we did things for something to do. Things are done out of various needs. Some of those needs can be for fun and enjoyment,some just a way of life etc.
One thing though, you can't buy drinkable 9% cider made from 100% apples from a supermarket, that is a fact
No idea about cider.
Sorry for the thread derail.I was not aware of a missing paragraph.
You can't heat a whole house on a log burner alone, it needs one with a back boiler and the associated equipment which costs a lot of money.
I can and do heat my house with a 13 KW log burner. It's a small two up two down house.
Time isn't free, the meter is always running. As per above personally I could be earning money (to pay for gas) instead of setting up to burn wood.
My free time is free. I only charge money when carrying out work of my chosen trade.
Nice looking carrot. The rest is fruit which also looks nice.
It tastes just like the Supermarket supplied stuff which costs less. You take your eggs to someone and get them to cook them with others and do a taste test.
To quote a pal after asking how were the eggs I gave you?
Erm yes ok but a bit to eggy for me,I will stick to the bland shop ones.
It's the automotive equivalent of fitting a different kind of air filter and claiming the car is more powerful, so much so you can actually feel it. Bulls
t. I know it, i've proved it, but it won't stop people from doing it.Agreed.
The above is all hard fact, but that's not why we do it. We don't do things for factual sensible reasons, we do them because it makes us feel good, we like to learn, to master to have new things and many other reasons, we do it because we're human.
I thought you said previously we did things for something to do. Things are done out of various needs. Some of those needs can be for fun and enjoyment,some just a way of life etc.
One thing though, you can't buy drinkable 9% cider made from 100% apples from a supermarket, that is a fact
No idea about cider.
Edited by Evoluzione on Monday 31st August 21:49
Harry Flashman said:
In a less manly vein, I bought the little Ryobi battery chainsaw for log shortening duties.
Brilliant. Far less scary, hassle and overkill than a petrol one, less antisocial, and less vibration, noise and time taken than using the reciprocating saw.
Sounds like the right tool for your job.Brilliant. Far less scary, hassle and overkill than a petrol one, less antisocial, and less vibration, noise and time taken than using the reciprocating saw.
Do you make the petrol chainsaw brrm, putter putter, gneee noise yourself while you're using it?
Another log-related-tool consumer report:
Slide hammer type splitter - crap.
Took the £36 punt. Lost.
Pros: Accuracy of impact point. You're not relying on aim of an axe swing.
Different action to swinging an axe if your body objects to that.
Cons. Slower. Needs many slide bashes to work through compared to an axe.
Much less powerful. Axe goes through much chunkier pieces.
I've an X25 won for a little less than list on 3bay in the courier. Which I should have done from the start. Others here have reported that it's the daddy of splitting means.
I split & stacked about 2 cord today that I cut last weekend. All Macrocarpa, from a tree of base diameter of about 6 foot. I have a 9hp petrol powered hydraulic splitter, one piece stalled the splitter, needed to hammer the wood with the splitting axe to remove wood from the knife, then chainsaw to finish.
paua said:
I split & stacked about 2 cord today that I cut last weekend. All Macrocarpa, from a tree of base diameter of about 6 foot. I have a 9hp petrol powered hydraulic splitter, one piece stalled the splitter, needed to hammer the wood with the splitting axe to remove wood from the knife, then chainsaw to finish.
PauaAny Pics of your splitter as I'm still designing my next one in my head specifically for knotty and awkward cord and like to get ideas?
Chaps, any tips on seasoning?
My big stove seems to cope with wood that has been sitting in a shed, logged but unsplit until recently, well. It also burns oak that has been outside, uncovered and unsplit until recently, well.
However, the little stove simply will not burn either of these properly. It is absolutely fine with kiln dried wood that I bought.
So I think that actually, all my garden wood needs yet more seasoning, even though it has been lying around for ages and the moisture meter says it is dry enough...
My big stove seems to cope with wood that has been sitting in a shed, logged but unsplit until recently, well. It also burns oak that has been outside, uncovered and unsplit until recently, well.
However, the little stove simply will not burn either of these properly. It is absolutely fine with kiln dried wood that I bought.
So I think that actually, all my garden wood needs yet more seasoning, even though it has been lying around for ages and the moisture meter says it is dry enough...
I built a log store, but basically just chucked the newly split logs in any way they fitted. There are gaps for air, but still... Is there a recognisably better way to season wood outside?
London, but I could build something more substantial at the wood's source, my mother's house outside London...
London, but I could build something more substantial at the wood's source, my mother's house outside London...
Aprisa said:
paua said:
I split & stacked about 2 cord today that I cut last weekend. All Macrocarpa, from a tree of base diameter of about 6 foot. I have a 9hp petrol powered hydraulic splitter, one piece stalled the splitter, needed to hammer the wood with the splitting axe to remove wood from the knife, then chainsaw to finish.
PauaAny Pics of your splitter as I'm still designing my next one in my head specifically for knotty and awkward cord and like to get ideas?
Minus the trailer lights & extra frills etc
Aprisa said:
Paua
Any Pics of your splitter as I'm still designing my next one in my head specifically for knotty and awkward cord and like to get ideas?
A thought from someone who hasn't used one...Any Pics of your splitter as I'm still designing my next one in my head specifically for knotty and awkward cord and like to get ideas?
...minimise the height of the bottom platform/fixture so logs can be rolled on without having to lift.
Harry Flashman said:
Chaps, any tips on seasoning?
My big stove seems to cope with wood that has been sitting in a shed, logged but unsplit until recently, well. It also burns oak that has been outside, uncovered and unsplit until recently, well.
However, the little stove simply will not burn either of these properly. It is absolutely fine with kiln dried wood that I bought.
So I think that actually, all my garden wood needs yet more seasoning, even though it has been lying around for ages and the moisture meter says it is dry enough...
Wood will typically season at 1" per year, so the longer you can leave it, the better it will be - or split your logs smaller so they season more quickly.My big stove seems to cope with wood that has been sitting in a shed, logged but unsplit until recently, well. It also burns oak that has been outside, uncovered and unsplit until recently, well.
However, the little stove simply will not burn either of these properly. It is absolutely fine with kiln dried wood that I bought.
So I think that actually, all my garden wood needs yet more seasoning, even though it has been lying around for ages and the moisture meter says it is dry enough...
S6PNJ said:
Wood will typically season at 1" per year, so the longer you can leave it, the better it will be - or split your logs smaller so they season more quickly.
Useful rule of thumb.Is the inch the shortest dimension and does it season from all faces or just the most exposed?
Say a piece is roughly 10x2x4. In an ideal world might it take only one year assuming (unlikely
) the 2" dimension is exposed on both faces.RichB said:
I need to get up with the jargon: what/how much is a cord of wood? 
Cord is the main trunk of a tree (Cord Wood) but I never really use it in terms of quantity as that could be minimal or huge dependant on the tree, I may be wrong however?Paua, I like that splitter especially the bench which is better designed than mine.
In terms of lowering the bech to make rolling the wood on easier, I partially agree when you are dealing with really big sections but that's offest by the convenience of being at the bench without bending which makes a difference after a couple of hours!
I made my last one so that it was upright at waist height for smaller cord and then could be layed on it's back to split large sections low to the ground, as of yet I've preferred to lift the cord with help and work standing up. I was thinking of a log lifter but most times i place it at the back of my tipping trailer and the heights are the same so I can transfer easily.
I just find it fun trying to come up with different designs and playing with large chunks of steel!
Harry Flashman said:
Chaps, any tips on seasoning?
My big stove seems to cope with wood that has been sitting in a shed, logged but unsplit until recently, well. It also burns oak that has been outside, uncovered and unsplit until recently, well.
However, the little stove simply will not burn either of these properly. It is absolutely fine with kiln dried wood that I bought.
So I think that actually, all my garden wood needs yet more seasoning, even though it has been lying around for ages and the moisture meter says it is dry enough...
Worth trying splitting the pieces further for the little stove. Like you we have a smaller stove that struggles with wood that burns perfectly well in our main stove.My big stove seems to cope with wood that has been sitting in a shed, logged but unsplit until recently, well. It also burns oak that has been outside, uncovered and unsplit until recently, well.
However, the little stove simply will not burn either of these properly. It is absolutely fine with kiln dried wood that I bought.
So I think that actually, all my garden wood needs yet more seasoning, even though it has been lying around for ages and the moisture meter says it is dry enough...
I've recently started halfing the wood with an axe when I fill the log basket for the smaller stove. It only takes a few minutes and it then happily burns away.
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