I got wood

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jet_noise

5,651 posts

182 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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Evoluzione said:
Diplomatico said:
Evoluzione said:
Not sure if serious? You're looking into cutting logs up with a handsaw?
I have like £40 of logs. I’m not going to spend £250+ to chop it when a bow saw will surely be ok for this small amount.
You've answered your own like question, buy a like bowsaw and get busy.
It'll be very good physical exercise that's for sure.

Edited by Evoluzione on Sunday 8th November 10:06
Let us know how you feel after a couple of cuts wink
Depends how many logs and what size £40 gets you where you live.

A mains electric chainsaw can be had for <£100. If you need it once you'll need it again smile
Man maths.

Nico Adie

610 posts

43 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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I like cutting logs by hand, have just used a 7tpi handsaw in the past, great exercise. Looking to pick up either a Silky Bigboy or a 3ft one man crosscut once we’re in the new house. Some people pay for gym memberships...

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

243 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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If I get round to it in the next few weeks i'll get a pic of one i've got stashed somewhere. It's a two man log saw and i'd say about 6ft long, inch deep teeth and a handle at either end. It is a genuine one, I was told logs were sawn over a pit with it, one man on top and one underneath.
They probably tossed a coin for who went where laugh

guindilias

5,245 posts

120 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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Ah, the misery whip. They're awesome, I have 3 old ones in the garage!
Never actually used them though because chainsaws>hand saws. laugh

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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Hired a log splitter for two days for £36 having had some tree work done. Dinky little thing but it was super powerful. £240 to buy one. If I needed one more regularly I'd so buy one.



This pile plus about 50% more I'd already moved to split.



Once I'd split it (took about 7 hours) my existing heap now looks like this:



Reckon I'm good for about five years now.

eek

Harry Flashman

Original Poster:

19,366 posts

242 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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Insurance company have just told me I need to lose the big oak tree near the house.

That log splitter may come in handy.

dickymint

24,357 posts

258 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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Harry Flashman said:
Insurance company have just told me I need to lose the big oak tree near the house.

That log splitter may come in handy.
Interesting. Any TPO implications and if so does insurance cover it?

Biglips

1,338 posts

155 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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I have been gifted a felled cherry tree but it has obviously been lying in the mud for a while and my chain keeps getting repeatedly blunted from the soil on the trunk particularly near the base. Frustrating!!

I have just ordered a chain sharpener as I have used up and blunted the couple of new chains I had stashed. I have worked my way through most of it now, but that log splitter may be the answer!

S6PNJ

5,182 posts

281 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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Can you get to it with a power washer to jet away the mud? Make sure you get semi chisel chain, not full chisel chain, as the semi chisel will stand up against mud dirt better than the full chisel.

Biglips

1,338 posts

155 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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S6PNJ said:
Can you get to it with a power washer to jet away the mud? Make sure you get semi chisel chain, not full chisel chain, as the semi chisel will stand up against mud dirt better than the full chisel.
I hosed it down and it has been out in the torrential rain we had recently, but not pressure washed it as i was lazy and thought I would get away with it - clearly I was wrong....

Good tip re semi chisel - thanks

RichB

51,591 posts

284 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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Newbie question, what the difference between a chisel chain and a semi? Should i have both in the shed?

S6PNJ

5,182 posts

281 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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Chisel has a right angled cutter and cuts faster but dulls easier, semi chisel has a rounded corner and cuts more slowly but is more tolerant of sand/grit/dirt etc.

For the 'home' user, I'd always go semi chisel - all mine are (also a home user but with 4 acres of woodland).

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

243 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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^ There continues to be lots of good info in this thread yes

I got a call to pick up this lot:



Which didn't look much until it filled the van completely:



As you can see it fell over on its side.

It being Sycamore I naturally Googled it to see what kind of output i'd get from it. Google said it was wk, until I looked closer and saw the comments were from the good old US of A. It turns out they have a different type and ours is actually superior.
You might also say 'Well it's free wood, chuck it on and burn it' and I wouldn't disagree with that notion.

Going back in time to a previous life I remembered that it's not only the species, It's where it's grown that matters.
Softwood from Sweden is not as good as Russian, reason being the weather is warmer and for longer in one than the other and the wood is less dense and of a poorer quality.

That aside i'll just spilt it up and lob it on when it's dry.

Edited by Evoluzione on Saturday 2nd January 15:04

dickymint

24,357 posts

258 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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Evoluzione said:
^ There continues to be lots of good info in this thread yes

I got a call to pick up this lot:



Which didn't look much until it filled the van completely:



It being Sycamore I naturally Googled it to see what kind of output i'd get from it. Google said it was wk, until I looked closer and saw the comments were from the good old US of A. It turns out they have a different type and ours is actually superior.
You might also say 'Well it's free wood, chuck it on and burn it' and I wouldn't disagree with that notion.

Going back in time to a previous life I remembered that it's not only the species, It's where it's grown that matters.
Softwood from Sweden is not as good as Russian, reason being the weather is warmer and for longer in one than the other and the wood is less dense and of a poorer quality.

That aside i'll just spilt it up and lob it on when it's dry.
I've said many times now - weight for weight, at the same moisture content, all wood has more or less the same calorific value. It's all about burning it at the right time.

LeadFarmer

7,411 posts

131 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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Evoluzione said:
It being Sycamore I naturally Googled it to see what kind of output i'd get from it. Google said it was wk, until I looked closer and saw the comments were from the good old US of A
For burning on a log burner, based on my complex mathematical formula provided below, I'd say you have the absolute best wood ever...

X=Y

X = free wood
Y = absolute best wood ever

dickymint

24,357 posts

258 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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LeadFarmer said:
Evoluzione said:
It being Sycamore I naturally Googled it to see what kind of output i'd get from it. Google said it was wk, until I looked closer and saw the comments were from the good old US of A
For burning on a log burner, based on my complex mathematical formula provided below, I'd say you have the absolute best wood ever...

X=Y

X = free wood
Y = absolute best wood ever
yes All wood is good wood - free wood is better though.

https://www.forestresearch.gov.uk/documents/1958/F...

"The general differences are that
hardwoods (deciduous, broadleaved
tree species) tend to be denser, and
softwoods (evergreen, coniferous species)
tend to contain more resins. [b]There is little
variation of CV between species when
tested at the same moisture content."[/b]

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

243 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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dickymint said:
LeadFarmer said:
Evoluzione said:
It being Sycamore I naturally Googled it to see what kind of output i'd get from it. Google said it was wk, until I looked closer and saw the comments were from the good old US of A
For burning on a log burner, based on my complex mathematical formula provided below, I'd say you have the absolute best wood ever...

X=Y

X = free wood
Y = absolute best wood ever
yes All wood is good wood - free wood is better though.

https://www.forestresearch.gov.uk/documents/1958/F...

"The general differences are that
hardwoods (deciduous, broadleaved
tree species) tend to be denser, and
softwoods (evergreen, coniferous species)
tend to contain more resins. [b]There is little
variation of CV between species when
tested at the same moisture content."[/b]
Absolutely, it's the same conclusion I come to everytime, I just researched it out of vague interest. It all ends up in the same place.
Just waiting for it to stop snowing now so can get to split it.
I'll have to get a pic of the latest haul later, it was left for me in the front garden so I never got to see where the Pine tree grew. The logs must be 18 to 24" across so it must have looked spectacular growing in the tiny back garden of a small Council house!

Edited by Evoluzione on Saturday 2nd January 15:06

Biglips

1,338 posts

155 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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Evoluzione said:
^ There continues to be lots of good info in this thread yes

I got a call to pick up this lot:



Which didn't look much until it filled the van completely:



It being Sycamore I naturally Googled it to see what kind of output i'd get from it. Google said it was wk, until I looked closer and saw the comments were from the good old US of A. It turns out they have a different type and ours is actually superior.
You might also say 'Well it's free wood, chuck it on and burn it' and I wouldn't disagree with that notion.

Going back in time to a previous life I remembered that it's not only the species, It's where it's grown that matters.
Softwood from Sweden is not as good as Russian, reason being the weather is warmer and for longer in one than the other and the wood is less dense and of a poorer quality.

That aside i'll just spilt it up and lob it on when it's dry.
That looks like a nice haul. It burns well. I had sycamore last year and this as someone in my road was felling 3 huge ones. A large pile of it ended up in my garden for the price of a few beer tokens for the tree surgeons.

Biglips

1,338 posts

155 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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In other news, my chain sharpener arrived today. Why have I never had one of these before? It is awesome. Took 5 mins to sharpen my chain and it was so easy. I have messed about trying to sharpen them previously and reverted to just asking my dealer to do it now. Never again! Highly recommended.





Nice bit of cherry wood


dickymint

24,357 posts

258 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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^^^ "Cherry is for turning not burning" wink