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Fermit

12,961 posts

100 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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What's the collectives thoughts on this maul? https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002SCOLTY?tag=axe0ca-...

Currently have the equivalent of maybe two tonne bags full of logs to split, and sporadically will acquire more. Therefore not wanting to spend a fortune, as wont be using it all the time. Thoughts?

robinh73

922 posts

200 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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Speed addicted said:
guitarcarfanatic said:
I think the X25 will have similar amounts of power to the GFS Axe. It actually has a slightly heavier head (1.8kg against 1.6kg). More reach might help, but suspect working on technique will give better results - it's all about head speed. I have a X27 and was splitting 900mm wide rounds of cherry in the summer - it was hard work, but worked through them.

For the smaller stuff, I would suggest a X10 or X11 as you will be able to get it moving quicker smile
I’ve been using the X37 splitting maul for the big stuff, I might get something lighter for things that don’t need maximum death though. A good hit with the x37 tends to grande things a bit.

Regarding chainsaws I’ve been using a Stihl ms181 for the last year (my first saw) and I’ve been needing a bit more reach quite often. Thinking about something like the Echo 620with a 20” bar, are Echo any good?
Echo make great saws and if you have a dealer close to you, then they are a good option. If not, I would look at a Stihl equivalent. For a 20" bar, I would not look at anything smaller than a 50cc saw. The Echo is a 60cc if I am correct so would be ideal for a 20" bar.

Speed addicted

5,575 posts

227 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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robinh73 said:
Echo make great saws and if you have a dealer close to you, then they are a good option. If not, I would look at a Stihl equivalent. For a 20" bar, I would not look at anything smaller than a 50cc saw. The Echo is a 60cc if I am correct so would be ideal for a 20" bar.
Good point about the dealer, I’m in NE Scotland and there don’t appear to be many Echo dealers about, although there is a bloke advertising regularly about 40 miles away that doesn’t show up on the dealer list.
There appear to be about 5 Stihl dealers within 20 miles however! I’ll avoid the place I actually bought the saw from though as they’ve proved to be totally useless any time I’ve needed anything.



robinh73

922 posts

200 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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Speed addicted said:
robinh73 said:
Echo make great saws and if you have a dealer close to you, then they are a good option. If not, I would look at a Stihl equivalent. For a 20" bar, I would not look at anything smaller than a 50cc saw. The Echo is a 60cc if I am correct so would be ideal for a 20" bar.
Good point about the dealer, I’m in NE Scotland and there don’t appear to be many Echo dealers about, although there is a bloke advertising regularly about 40 miles away that doesn’t show up on the dealer list.
There appear to be about 5 Stihl dealers within 20 miles however! I’ll avoid the place I actually bought the saw from though as they’ve proved to be totally useless any time I’ve needed anything.
That's a shame about the local dealer, always nice to be able to support them if at all possible. Also have a look at the Husqvarna range. The 550xp mk2 is a great saw, so if you have a Husky dealer nearby then they are a good option too. Failing that, Gustharts online are great as are Honey Bros. Good luck!

Bill

52,770 posts

255 months

Sunday 9th January 2022
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They're pretty simple things though. I haven't needed anything for my Husqvarna that I haven't been able to sort myself. Admittedly that's partly due to the local dealer trying to sell me a new one when it had starting issues. rolleyes A new plug and a flush of the carb and it was sorted. Switching to Stihl premix has meant no issues since then.

RichB

51,586 posts

284 months

Sunday 9th January 2022
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Bill said:
T...flush of the carb...
Spray carb cleaner?

Bill

52,770 posts

255 months

Sunday 9th January 2022
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No, just fresh fuel. smile

Gtom

1,610 posts

132 months

Sunday 9th January 2022
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£115 of kiln dried ash, 20 nets worth. They said at the wood yard it was 20 nets to a builders bag which holds 0.6m3 of wood. I shifted it from the car to the store in two goes with a wheel barrow, if it hadn’t been in nets it would have taken three goes.

Last time I went there I went with the trailer and had a 1.2m3 bucket load of seasoned hardwood. That took 19 wheel barrows to load in to the store. Somethings a little bit out!

I can’t wait to move and I will have more than enough room to process my own, I have seen someone advertising uncut/unseasoned logs for what works out at £45/tipper full.

Speed addicted

5,575 posts

227 months

Sunday 9th January 2022
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Gtom said:


£115 of kiln dried ash, 20 nets worth. They said at the wood yard it was 20 nets to a builders bag which holds 0.6m3 of wood. I shifted it from the car to the store in two goes with a wheel barrow, if it hadn’t been in nets it would have taken three goes.

Last time I went there I went with the trailer and had a 1.2m3 bucket load of seasoned hardwood. That took 19 wheel barrows to load in to the store. Somethings a little bit out!

I can’t wait to move and I will have more than enough room to process my own, I have seen someone advertising uncut/unseasoned logs for what works out at £45/tipper full.
Seems expensive, this was £90 worth of seasoned hardwood!

Gtom

1,610 posts

132 months

Monday 10th January 2022
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Speed addicted said:
Gtom said:


£115 of kiln dried ash, 20 nets worth. They said at the wood yard it was 20 nets to a builders bag which holds 0.6m3 of wood. I shifted it from the car to the store in two goes with a wheel barrow, if it hadn’t been in nets it would have taken three goes.

Last time I went there I went with the trailer and had a 1.2m3 bucket load of seasoned hardwood. That took 19 wheel barrows to load in to the store. Somethings a little bit out!

I can’t wait to move and I will have more than enough room to process my own, I have seen someone advertising uncut/unseasoned logs for what works out at £45/tipper full.
Seems expensive, this was £90 worth of seasoned hardwood!
It was expensive!

A builders bag is £95 for kiln dried but I didn’t have access to a tow vehicle that day nets it was.

2m3 of seasoned hardwood is £220 so around 3.5 builders bags worth but sadly I don’t have the space to store that much yet.


PushedDover

5,655 posts

53 months

Monday 10th January 2022
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I have found historically any logs in Nets are ste and a rip off with someone making a fast buck hoping the 'buyer / berner' wont notice.
I'd have walked tbh.


Speed addicted

5,575 posts

227 months

Monday 10th January 2022
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Gtom said:
It was expensive!

A builders bag is £95 for kiln dried but I didn’t have access to a tow vehicle that day nets it was.

2m3 of seasoned hardwood is £220 so around 3.5 builders bags worth but sadly I don’t have the space to store that much yet.
What you need is a retired dad with time on his hands to build a wood store!
The light coloured stuff on the right is 2 cubic meters, all the stuff on the left has come from clearing our garden that hadn’t been touched for the last 20 years.
I’ve got another pile on pallets that I’m sorting out and covering so it actually dries too.
After two large storms there’s a place near me advertising a 24t lorry load of unseasoned wood for £1250! I’d ge tempted if there was any chance of getting the lorry in to our garden.
The local estate has over 1000 trees blown down.

Gtom

1,610 posts

132 months

Monday 10th January 2022
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PushedDover said:
I have found historically any logs in Nets are ste and a rip off with someone making a fast buck hoping the 'buyer / berner' wont notice.
I'd have walked tbh.
In fairness the place is well established and has been going for over 30 years. Most of it is a half decent size, the smaller stuff gets turned in to kindling.

It was my situation that dictated the nets, next time I’m going with a big trailer and taking a few m3 of seasoned stuff.

Gtom

1,610 posts

132 months

Monday 10th January 2022
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Speed addicted said:
What you need is a retired dad with time on his hands to build a wood store!
The light coloured stuff on the right is 2 cubic meters, all the stuff on the left has come from clearing our garden that hadn’t been touched for the last 20 years.
I’ve got another pile on pallets that I’m sorting out and covering so it actually dries too.
After two large storms there’s a place near me advertising a 24t lorry load of unseasoned wood for £1250! I’d ge tempted if there was any chance of getting the lorry in to our garden.
The local estate has over 1000 trees blown down.
I wouldn’t trust my dad to do it, plus I’m a carpenter so I really want to build my own.

I’m going to get a 36v Makita chainsaw and keep it in the van for when I’m out and about and hopefully that will be a half decent source of wood.

Byker28i

59,862 posts

217 months

Monday 10th January 2022
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Gtom said:
Speed addicted said:
Gtom said:


£115 of kiln dried ash, 20 nets worth. They said at the wood yard it was 20 nets to a builders bag which holds 0.6m3 of wood. I shifted it from the car to the store in two goes with a wheel barrow, if it hadn’t been in nets it would have taken three goes.

Last time I went there I went with the trailer and had a 1.2m3 bucket load of seasoned hardwood. That took 19 wheel barrows to load in to the store. Somethings a little bit out!

I can’t wait to move and I will have more than enough room to process my own, I have seen someone advertising uncut/unseasoned logs for what works out at £45/tipper full.
Seems expensive, this was £90 worth of seasoned hardwood!
It was expensive!

A builders bag is £95 for kiln dried but I didn’t have access to a tow vehicle that day nets it was.

2m3 of seasoned hardwood is £220 so around 3.5 builders bags worth but sadly I don’t have the space to store that much yet.
My local petrol station and B&M in Pembrock Dock sell bags that size for £3.99. I just buy 4 at a time as I need them, stock the shed, and keep about 4 bags worth chopped up further in the indoor woodstore in the utility, with another 2 bags stored there. It's where our dehumidifier is we use instead of a tumble so the wood always burns well.

Gtom

1,610 posts

132 months

Monday 10th January 2022
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Byker28i said:
My local petrol station and B&M in Pembrock Dock sell bags that size for £3.99. I just buy 4 at a time as I need them, stock the shed, and keep about 4 bags worth chopped up further in the indoor woodstore in the utility, with another 2 bags stored there. It's where our dehumidifier is we use instead of a tumble so the wood always burns well.
The thing I have found with the B&q/aldi/etc wood that it is almost always silver birch and it burns far too quickly, I could easily use a net or more a night. With the ash I have got I use 3 decent sized logs, one smaller one for lighting and then top up with smokeless once it’s going well.

If I light it at 5pm, put the coal on around 7ish the stove fan is still going at 6am the next morning and the room is still nice and warm.

Swervin_Mervin

4,452 posts

238 months

Monday 10th January 2022
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Gtom said:
Speed addicted said:
Gtom said:


£115 of kiln dried ash, 20 nets worth. They said at the wood yard it was 20 nets to a builders bag which holds 0.6m3 of wood. I shifted it from the car to the store in two goes with a wheel barrow, if it hadn’t been in nets it would have taken three goes.

Last time I went there I went with the trailer and had a 1.2m3 bucket load of seasoned hardwood. That took 19 wheel barrows to load in to the store. Somethings a little bit out!

I can’t wait to move and I will have more than enough room to process my own, I have seen someone advertising uncut/unseasoned logs for what works out at £45/tipper full.
Seems expensive, this was £90 worth of seasoned hardwood!
It was expensive!

A builders bag is £95 for kiln dried but I didn’t have access to a tow vehicle that day nets it was.

2m3 of seasoned hardwood is £220 so around 3.5 builders bags worth but sadly I don’t have the space to store that much yet.
Buying kiln-dried is utterly pointless, and a waste of ££. If you can find netted seasoned just buy that.

LeadFarmer

7,411 posts

131 months

Monday 10th January 2022
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Gtom said:
I’m going to get a 36v Makita chainsaw and keep it in the van so it can get broken into and stolen
At least you're realistic biggrin

I fancy a Makita 36v chainsaw too, seeing as I've now I've added some 5amp batteries to my collection.

Gtom

1,610 posts

132 months

Monday 10th January 2022
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LeadFarmer said:
Gtom said:
I’m going to get a 36v Makita chainsaw and keep it in the van so it can get broken into and stolen
At least you're realistic biggrin

I fancy a Makita 36v chainsaw too, seeing as I've now I've added some 5amp batteries to my collection.
Nice editing!

I’m a joiner so the chainsaw is small fry compared to other stuff in the back of the van. Ratchet straps on the doors keeps my mind fairly at ease. I have got 15 batteries (3,5 & 6ah) so I should be good for power while I’m out.

MK1RS Bruce

667 posts

138 months

Monday 10th January 2022
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Speed addicted said:
robinh73 said:
Echo make great saws and if you have a dealer close to you, then they are a good option. If not, I would look at a Stihl equivalent. For a 20" bar, I would not look at anything smaller than a 50cc saw. The Echo is a 60cc if I am correct so would be ideal for a 20" bar.
Good point about the dealer, I’m in NE Scotland and there don’t appear to be many Echo dealers about, although there is a bloke advertising regularly about 40 miles away that doesn’t show up on the dealer list.
There appear to be about 5 Stihl dealers within 20 miles however! I’ll avoid the place I actually bought the saw from though as they’ve proved to be totally useless any time I’ve needed anything.
If you are in the North East of Scotland I would say the best place to get a saw from is Strathbogie Forrest and Garden in Huntly.

Will have a choice of Husky or Stihl there, they have been a husky dealer for decades and will service and repair whatever you buy from them.