I got wood

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guindilias

5,245 posts

120 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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Harry's garden is tiny and communal, all council flats in London are the same. Just an outhouse and a fire pit, and he has to take the lift down 12 floors to get to it. A couple of 4-way extension leads daisychained should do the trick. wink

snowandrocks

1,054 posts

142 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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Definitely go corded over cordless if at all possible. Unless you spend silly money on a pro cordless saw it will either flatten the battery quickly or be unusably gutless.

My dad has an older version of this and despite initially being sceptical, it's pretty impressive.

https://www.husqvarna.com/uk/products/chainsaws/42...

Obviously not as quick as a decent petrol saw but will happily power through anything up to the bar length. Stops and starts almost instantly and is easily quiet enough for an urban garden.

Harry Flashman

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19,358 posts

242 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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paralla said:
Harry Flashman said:
IMG_20200802_182220 by baconrashers, on Flickr

Edited by Harry Flashman on Sunday 2nd August 22:33
Harry

I keep a sheet of £3 Corex folded up underneath the floor of my Golf R Estate for when I have wood. You need some protection!
I have a rubber load liner as I use this car like a proper estate car rather than a high performance car sometimes!

Thankfully it did not come with the extremely expensive and totally impractical polished teak boot lining...

Harry Flashman

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19,358 posts

242 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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guindilias said:
Harry's garden is tiny and communal, all council flats in London are the same. Just an outhouse and a fire pit, and he has to take the lift down 12 floors to get to it. A couple of 4-way extension leads daisychained should do the trick. wink
So true. Most of the time, we're just burning rubbish in oil drums.

The odd log is a luxury, I tell you. Gets the spoon hot enough for a decent hit.

Harry Flashman

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19,358 posts

242 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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Almost September. I couldn't resist an even g with a fire and a glass or nine of red.


RichB

51,573 posts

284 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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Depends how old and energetic you are feeling! I bought an electric log splitter to do a pile that big and I'm still working through it after one year! Buy a proper log splitter and do a half hour every so often. biglaugh Don't listen to these machismo viking types that reckon you'd be able to chop that up with an axe in 30 mins before nipping down the pub, it's hard work..

jet_noise

5,650 posts

182 months

Saturday 29th August 2020
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Harry Flashman said:
guindilias said:
Harry's garden is tiny and communal, all council flats in London are the same. Just an outhouse and a fire pit, and he has to take the lift down 12 floors to get to it. A couple of 4-way extension leads daisychained should do the trick. wink
So true. Most of the time, we're just burning rubbish in oil drums.

The odd log is a luxury, I tell you. Gets the spoon hot enough for a decent hit.
I seem to have wandered into the PH version of Trainspotting smile
Is there a power pole or lamp post nearby into which you could tap*. Free power then too.

*Carefully, live working has risks wink

Pheo

3,339 posts

202 months

Saturday 29th August 2020
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I have a cheap lidl corded - works well doesn’t get bogged down etc.

May be worth sacking off the battery.

Mr Roper

13,003 posts

194 months

Sunday 30th August 2020
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Beautiful day to earn some beer tokens.


Magooagain

9,985 posts

170 months

Monday 31st August 2020
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Me aged 12 and 62. Different country now but firewood has been a constant in my life.


I buy most of it pre cut into 50 cm oak logs at a cost of 52 euro a cubic
metre delivered.
Here most oak is cut at one metre lengths and then split by using a tractor driven splitter. Then stacked to dry. It's cut into smaller lengths when required.

I also have wood from building works.
My stock is normally about 18 cube and burn about 6 per winter.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 31st August 2020
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I'm wondering at what price point wood becomes economic to heat a room vs gas? Not counting labour.

We can easily get through a net of logs in a long day and night. Which costs about a fiver. Which is roughly 2x expensive than gas, so it's more of a candle lit dinner style luxury rather than a daily all-day event.

Do I just need to buy more wood, or is there other tricks I'm not aware of, eg mixing coal, to stretch things out?

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

243 months

Monday 31st August 2020
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If I had to pay for it the gas CH would go on.

S6PNJ

5,182 posts

281 months

Monday 31st August 2020
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sambucket said:
I'm wondering at what price point wood becomes economic to heat a room vs gas? Not counting labour.

We can easily get through a net of logs in a long day and night. Which costs about a fiver. Which is roughly 2x expensive than gas, so it's more of a candle lit dinner style luxury rather than a daily all-day event.

Do I just need to buy more wood, or is there other tricks I'm not aware of, eg mixing coal, to stretch things out?
Don't buy it in £5 nets from the local garage!

Cost comparison here (up to date as of July 2020):

https://nottenergy.com/resources/energy-cost-compa...

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 31st August 2020
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Evoluzione said:
If I had to pay for it the gas CH would go on.
Fair enough, might have some options now I think about it. Might be a good enough excuse to buy a trailer and some toys.

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

243 months

Monday 31st August 2020
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sambucket said:
Evoluzione said:
If I had to pay for it the gas CH would go on.
Fair enough, might have some options now I think about it. Might be a good enough excuse to buy a trailer and some toys.
It's purely a personal thing so the conversation could go on a long time, there is no wrong or right, you just do it to suit your needs.
That's my take on it, but many have it for other reasons. It's like keeping chickens for eggs or a vegetable plot for the produce. Most of it is for something to do, the enjoyment, the exercise, etc. If it was for the end product it would be cheaper and easier to go to the supermarket.

It's quite possible i'm deluding myself thinking that burning wood is saving much. Add in the time and fuel spent, equipment needed and i'd probably be better off just putting a few more hours in at my actual job, but that's manmaths for you smile

Edited by Evoluzione on Monday 31st August 12:59

Magooagain

9,985 posts

170 months

Monday 31st August 2020
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Evoluzione said:
sambucket said:
Evoluzione said:
If I had to pay for it the gas CH would go on.
Fair enough, might have some options now I think about it. Might be a good enough excuse to buy a trailer and some toys.
It's purely a personal thing so the conversation could go on a long time, there is no wrong or right, you just do it to suit your needs.
That's my take on it, but many have it for other reasons. It's like keeping chickens for eggs or a vegetable plot for the produce. Most of it is for something to do, the enjoyment, the exercise, etc. If it was for the end product it would be cheaper and easier to go to the supermarket.
Yes that is one way to look at it,but not mine.
Less than €312 a year for heating my house is cheap in my eyes and it's a lifestyle I enjoy.
My chickens eggs taste better than supermarket eggs and so do my chickens taste better and are reared free range with decent food.
There is just no comparison of taste between home grown veg and supermarket mass grown veg.
It is something to do of course but I don't look at it like that.

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

243 months

Monday 31st August 2020
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Magooagain said:
Evoluzione said:
sambucket said:
Evoluzione said:
If I had to pay for it the gas CH would go on.
Fair enough, might have some options now I think about it. Might be a good enough excuse to buy a trailer and some toys.
It's purely a personal thing so the conversation could go on a long time, there is no wrong or right, you just do it to suit your needs.
That's my take on it, but many have it for other reasons. It's like keeping chickens for eggs or a vegetable plot for the produce. Most of it is for something to do, the enjoyment, the exercise, etc. If it was for the end product it would be cheaper and easier to go to the supermarket.
Yes that is one way to look at it,but not mine.
Less than €312 a year for heating my house is cheap in my eyes and it's a lifestyle I enjoy.
My chickens eggs taste better than supermarket eggs and so do my chickens taste better and are reared free range with decent food.
There is just no comparison of taste between home grown veg and supermarket mass grown veg.
It is something to do of course but I don't look at it like that.
It isn't 312 pa, it's much more. You've just forgotten to add in the time, equipment and actual system needed to take heat from wood and take it to the various rooms in your house.
Whilst I wouldn't argue your chickens lead a much better life, you only perceive your eggs and veg taste better.
If someone blindfolded you and did a taste test you wouldn't know the difference.

Magooagain

9,985 posts

170 months

Monday 31st August 2020
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Evoluzione said:
Magooagain said:
Evoluzione said:
sambucket said:
Evoluzione said:
If I had to pay for it the gas CH would go on.
Fair enough, might have some options now I think about it. Might be a good enough excuse to buy a trailer and some toys.
It's purely a personal thing so the conversation could go on a long time, there is no wrong or right, you just do it to suit your needs.
That's my take on it, but many have it for other reasons. It's like keeping chickens for eggs or a vegetable plot for the produce. Most of it is for something to do, the enjoyment, the exercise, etc. If it was for the end product it would be cheaper and easier to go to the supermarket.
Yes that is one way to look at it,but not mine.
Less than €312 a year for heating my house is cheap in my eyes and it's a lifestyle I enjoy.
My chickens eggs taste better than supermarket eggs and so do my chickens taste better and are reared free range with decent food.
There is just no comparison of taste between home grown veg and supermarket mass grown veg.
It is something to do of course but I don't look at it like that.
It isn't 312 pa, it's much more. You've just forgotten to add in the time, equipment and actual system needed to take heat from wood and take it to the various rooms in your house.
Whilst I wouldn't argue your chickens lead a much better life, you only perceive your eggs and veg taste better.
If someone blindfolded you and did a taste test you wouldn't know the difference.
You have an opinion and I know its incorrect. My time for stacking wood is free. The wood is delivered next to my stock pile for the price I quoted.It heats my small house from one 13kw log burner. That's it.

You are sadly way way out on the eggs and veg taste also. Tesco tomatoes compared to my garden ones,sadly wrong again. Home grown spuds!
Have you ever grown veg?
I do understand you're point of view in most of you're posts but give you plenty of play due to your posting style and past subjects etc. And of course fiat coupes.

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

243 months

Monday 31st August 2020
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Magooagain said:
Evoluzione said:
Magooagain said:
Evoluzione said:
sambucket said:
Evoluzione said:
If I had to pay for it the gas CH would go on.
Fair enough, might have some options now I think about it. Might be a good enough excuse to buy a trailer and some toys.
It's purely a personal thing so the conversation could go on a long time, there is no wrong or right, you just do it to suit your needs.
That's my take on it, but many have it for other reasons. It's like keeping chickens for eggs or a vegetable plot for the produce. Most of it is for something to do, the enjoyment, the exercise, etc. If it was for the end product it would be cheaper and easier to go to the supermarket.
Yes that is one way to look at it,but not mine.
Less than €312 a year for heating my house is cheap in my eyes and it's a lifestyle I enjoy.
My chickens eggs taste better than supermarket eggs and so do my chickens taste better and are reared free range with decent food.
There is just no comparison of taste between home grown veg and supermarket mass grown veg.
It is something to do of course but I don't look at it like that.
It isn't 312 pa, it's much more. You've just forgotten to add in the time, equipment and actual system needed to take heat from wood and take it to the various rooms in your house.
Whilst I wouldn't argue your chickens lead a much better life, you only perceive your eggs and veg taste better.
If someone blindfolded you and did a taste test you wouldn't know the difference.
You have an opinion and I know its incorrect. My time for stacking wood is free. The wood is delivered next to my stock pile for the price I quoted.It heats my small house from one 13kw log burner. That's it.

You are sadly way way out on the eggs and veg taste also. Tesco tomatoes compared to my garden ones,sadly wrong again. Home grown spuds!
Have you ever grown veg?
I do understand you're point of view in most of you're posts but give you plenty of play due to your posting style and past subjects etc. And of course fiat coupes.
I note you didn't see or quote the last paragraph in my post you quoted.
You can't heat a whole house on a log burner alone, it needs one with a back boiler and the associated equipment which costs a lot of money.
Time isn't free, the meter is always running. As per above personally I could be earning money (to pay for gas) instead of setting up to burn wood.
This is my home grown fruit veg:




It tastes just like the Supermarket supplied stuff which costs less. You take your eggs to someone and get them to cook them with others and do a taste test.

It's the automotive equivalent of fitting a different kind of air filter and claiming the car is more powerful, so much so you can actually feel it. Bullst. I know it, i've proved it, but it won't stop people from doing it.

The above is all hard fact, but that's not why we do it. We don't do things for factual sensible reasons, we do them because it makes us feel good, we like to learn, to master to have new things and many other reasons, we do it because we're human.

One thing though, you can't buy drinkable 9% cider made from 100% apples from a supermarket, that is a fact wink

Edited by Evoluzione on Monday 31st August 21:49

RichB

51,573 posts

284 months

Monday 31st August 2020
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Remember, putting smileys after a statement doesn't make it a fact, it's still only an opinion.