4K External CCTV - Yet Another Thread!

4K External CCTV - Yet Another Thread!

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bogie

16,389 posts

273 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Some guidelines here on data protection act etc, useful if you are recording other people

caughtoncamera.net/news/cctv-legal-requirements-cctv-laws-explained/#:~:text=require%20consistent%20monitoring.-,CCTV%20at%20Home,CCTV%20is%20being%20used%20responsibly.


dmsims

6,533 posts

268 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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I went from Synology NAS to dedicated (Hikvisons NVR) because the NAS would disconnect from the cameras randomly, Synology were diabolical at keeping up with firmware changes and didn't support some feature e.g. H.265

The bare POE NVR was ~£100 and has not disconnected a camera in 10 months


MetalMatters

480 posts

50 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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thebraketester said:
Don’t get hung up on 4K. Usually more pixels = smaller pixels.... = less good night vision.

1080p is perfectly fine for cctv in most cases.
This, but with a slight twist. I’ve got a 4 camera Dahua system, I run all 4 at 4K, night time footage is fine so long as my floodlights come on, but as you say pretty blotchy in i/r mode.

Recently changed a faulty camera and got the guys to install a Starlight, with a tiny amount of ambient light the system stays colour all through the evening and through until the morning.

I’ve been so impressed with them that I’m changing 14 outdoor cameras at my yard for the same thing.

There’s two very low wattage lamps outside my front door and a couple of street lamps, but this picture shows how good the footage is at night.

Edit - picture has served its purpose.



Edited by MetalMatters on Tuesday 7th July 10:09

S5Scot

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483 posts

190 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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MetalMatters said:
This, but with a slight twist. I’ve got a 4 camera Dahua system, I run all 4 at 4K, night time footage is fine so long as my floodlights come on, but as you say pretty blotchy in i/r mode.

Recently changed a faulty camera and got the guys to install a Starlight, with a tiny amount of ambient light the system stays colour all through the evening and through until the morning.

I’ve been so impressed with them that I’m changing 14 outdoor cameras at my yard for the same thing.

There’s two very low wattage lamps outside my front door and a couple of street lamps, but this picture shows how good the footage is at night.



Great call, what model and how many Did you install? I may as well do same!

Harry Flashman

19,369 posts

243 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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S5Scot said:
MetalMatters said:
This, but with a slight twist. I’ve got a 4 camera Dahua system, I run all 4 at 4K, night time footage is fine so long as my floodlights come on, but as you say pretty blotchy in i/r mode.

Recently changed a faulty camera and got the guys to install a Starlight, with a tiny amount of ambient light the system stays colour all through the evening and through until the morning.

I’ve been so impressed with them that I’m changing 14 outdoor cameras at my yard for the same thing.

There’s two very low wattage lamps outside my front door and a couple of street lamps, but this picture shows how good the footage is at night.



Great call, what model and how many Did you install? I may as well do same!
Seconded - this looks great.

thebraketester

14,243 posts

139 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Street lights make a massive difference. If you are in total darkness don’t expect images like that.

Harry Flashman

19,369 posts

243 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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I have street lights, so really just want to know which brand to buy.

Happy to put POE cabled cameras in, but would like a very user friendly app. Not as much in the way of reviews on the net as I thought there would be!

Origin Unknown

2,297 posts

170 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Thread binoculars have gone missing so reply to watch

@MetalMatters, some lovely metal on that driveway, there's money in mental it seems smile Good to see folks like you doing well thumbup

CoolHands

18,672 posts

196 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Presumably it’d be good to have normal cameras but maybe 1 or 2 specialist nighttime ones that work great in low light (but are st in daytime). So what cameras are good specifically for low light with infrared?

Edit I should read the thread, I assume it’s the starlight discussed above

MetalMatters

480 posts

50 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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thebraketester said:
Street lights make a massive difference. If you are in total darkness don’t expect images like that.
Agree, don't let that street lamp opposite fool you though, it's an led 'upgrade' and points directly at the ground with virtually no ambient light.
That area of my garden is lit up by two tiny led candle decorative wall lights, something like 15w each and the camera still picks up enough light to stay colour all night.

MetalMatters

480 posts

50 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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S5Scot said:
Great call, what model and how many Did you install? I may as well do same!
It's a Dahua, something like £150 fitted, but Hikvision do them too.

I only fitted 1 at the front of house, I don't need them at the back and sides because it's all lit up like a football pitch at night.

At work in a big metal recycling yard these are going to be really useful, we get visitors frequently and the onsite guy can keep a better eye on things.

MetalMatters

480 posts

50 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Origin Unknown said:
Thread binoculars have gone missing so reply to watch

@MetalMatters, some lovely metal on that driveway, there's money in mental it seems smile Good to see folks like you doing well thumbup
3rd generation recyclers, there is money, but it's also fiercely competitive.

Nice metal on the drive, but currently going through a divorce so a few belts will need pulling tight. eek





MetalMatters

480 posts

50 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Harry Flashman said:
I have street lights, so really just want to know which brand to buy.

Happy to put POE cabled cameras in, but would like a very user friendly app. Not as much in the way of reviews on the net as I thought there would be!
I've got the Dahua system, simple 4 camera dvr, poe cameras that run at 4k and a very good phone app (iDMSS Plus or DMSS).

Running the cables was the biggest pain, my install guys did a great job, nothing is on show.

I think the whole lot was about £1300 fitted.

I use mostly the same at work, it's a Dahua 32 camera system, 2 x 16 dvr, but running on old coax cables so each cam needs a supply, all 4k cameras etc.

Really good kit, we've had some great footage of trespassers, people stealing stuff, guys taking a slash, people tripping over etc laugh

Origin Unknown

2,297 posts

170 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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MetalMatters said:
3rd generation recyclers, there is money, but it's also fiercely competitive.

Nice metal on the drive, but currently going through a divorce so a few belts will need pulling tight. eek
Ah that sucks. I hope you come out the other end with some level of sanity.

MetalMatters

480 posts

50 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Origin Unknown said:
Ah that sucks. I hope you come out the other end with some level of sanity.
Thank you cool

dmsims

6,533 posts

268 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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The Darkfighter/Starlight cameras are very good for night

External independent IR lights can be very useful

You don't want a low shutter speed which might look OK on a static picture but get someone moving and it turns to a blurry mess