Neighbourly Issues
Discussion
DanL said:
Lateral thinking - you state your neighbour with the gate has right of access. Could you go via their gate and a side panel from the fence, rather than an end panel?
We suspect this is why he moved his car down his driveway, to stop us doing that. We're not sure they have a legal right of access although I'd be surprised if their garden gate (the only access to their garden) was via someone else's land with no right of access. But then I'm not a lawyer, I'm just a shmuck who bought a house with a dodgy neighbour 
t your neighbour is. At least you know now.DanL said:
Lateral thinking - you state your neighbour with the gate has right of access. Could you go via their gate and a side panel from the fence, rather than an end panel?
Probably not an issue in this situation, but rights of access are usually specify the purpose / beneficiary to avoid situations like this.People end up with problems when one house becomes two - often both houses don't get the right of access, and the one that does can't necessarily "share" that either.
romeogolf said:
Our first encounter with him, the day after we moved in, was him popping his head over the fence while we were in the garden and proceeding to tell us about all the disagreements he's had with various other neighbours so we went above-and-beyond to be friendly and avoid being in his bad books. Alas no luck, it seems!
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Our side gate is adjacent to next door's sidegate with a concrete post between the two, so nothing to be removed there, unfortunately.
Ah, he's an utter cocksocket then.....
Our side gate is adjacent to next door's sidegate with a concrete post between the two, so nothing to be removed there, unfortunately.
Would removing the first fence post and panel of the fence help with getting everything between the houses?
Bill said:
Ah, he's an utter cocksocket then.
Would removing the first fence post and panel of the fence help with getting everything between the houses?
They've managed to squeeze the digger in with millimetres to spare apparently, but the delivery will need to be wheelbarrowed down the side of the house rather than being deposited straight into the garden, which will take time/cost - although fingers crossed not the full £800 now! Would removing the first fence post and panel of the fence help with getting everything between the houses?
The guys doing it have been absolute gems, to be honest. They couldn't get our first choice of paving stones (thanks COVID) but have agreed not to charge extra for the replacements despite them being pricier. If any bottles of plonk get purchased for favours, it won't be for the neighbour!
Mr Pointy said:
I'd ask for a breakdown of the additional £800 charges though & check if getting the rear access was a condition of the original quote.
It's for 1.5 days' labour for the two workers and yeah, access was part of the initial quote so we knew from the get-go that we needed to ask for the access (which until yesterday hadn't been considered a problem!).
romeogolf said:
bristolbaron said:
I’d be having a chat with the guy, explaining that the additional cost is £800 and you’re happy to give him £400 for access?
I suggested this to the other half just now who replied with this photo. He's moved his car halfway down the drive just in case we dare think about using it for access anyway.
Ultimately I don't think he's the type to be reasoned with, sadly and I can see why he's fallen out with so many other neighbours. We'll have to suck up the £800 and hope we don't have any reason to need a favour from him in future. Some neighbours just aren't very neighbourly!
I’m due to face similar with ours neighbours, we’ve plans for an extension but I’m certain they’ll make life difficult. The neighbours the other side are awesome though which more than makes up for it.. just a shame I don’t need to agree a party wall act with them!
romeogolf said:
They've managed to squeeze the digger in with millimetres to spare apparently, but the delivery will need to be wheelbarrowed down the side of the house rather than being deposited straight into the garden, which will take time/cost - although fingers crossed not the full £800 now!
The guys doing it have been absolute gems, to be honest. They couldn't get our first choice of paving stones (thanks COVID) but have agreed not to charge extra for the replacements despite them being pricier. If any bottles of plonk get purchased for favours, it won't be for the neighbour!
The guys doing it have been absolute gems, to be honest. They couldn't get our first choice of paving stones (thanks COVID) but have agreed not to charge extra for the replacements despite them being pricier. If any bottles of plonk get purchased for favours, it won't be for the neighbour!
Just make sure they save the dusty jobs for when the wind's blowing that way.
That guy sounds like a complete cock womble. I do not understand why people have this attitude of trying to be as difficult as possible!
I have a good relationship with both my immediate neighbours. It's almost not worth moving house because of it, which will be a decision I make in 4 years time. If my house had a garage then I'd never move.
Frankly I would have as little to do with the guy as possible. He's shown his true colours. I imagine that when he told you about the issues with people that it was their fault as well.
I have a good relationship with both my immediate neighbours. It's almost not worth moving house because of it, which will be a decision I make in 4 years time. If my house had a garage then I'd never move.
Frankly I would have as little to do with the guy as possible. He's shown his true colours. I imagine that when he told you about the issues with people that it was their fault as well.
Well, we have the answer to the dick question.
Just do the works independently and stand for the extra cost. As PP says, the fact that you aren't grovelling to him is likely to be chewing him up. Don't do anything that will cause him any damage/inconvenience whatsoever. Just get on with the works as if he doesn't exist.
And install bird feeders at the bottom of the garden, lots of them. And then make sure you disturb the birds a lot when they're feeding, as it's common for birds to reduce their body weight as they take flight.
Just do the works independently and stand for the extra cost. As PP says, the fact that you aren't grovelling to him is likely to be chewing him up. Don't do anything that will cause him any damage/inconvenience whatsoever. Just get on with the works as if he doesn't exist.
And install bird feeders at the bottom of the garden, lots of them. And then make sure you disturb the birds a lot when they're feeding, as it's common for birds to reduce their body weight as they take flight.
TBF maybe the neighbors got a point, I wouldn't want a delivery lorry lifting a heavy load on my blocked paved driveway, ive seen several sink in the past, more so if they weren't done properly in the first place
You got the digger through which is the worst bit, there are also tiny diggers you can hire for this specific issue of narrow access
Id grab a barrow and get everything through myself, got mates? Get them round, youll do it in an hour. Its amazing what you can do when you put the graft in,.
Id stop any dealings with neighbor as soon as he got a bit kunty tbf and just do the hard graft myself
You got the digger through which is the worst bit, there are also tiny diggers you can hire for this specific issue of narrow access
Id grab a barrow and get everything through myself, got mates? Get them round, youll do it in an hour. Its amazing what you can do when you put the graft in,.
Id stop any dealings with neighbor as soon as he got a bit kunty tbf and just do the hard graft myself
romeogolf said:
bristolbaron said:
I’d be having a chat with the guy, explaining that the additional cost is £800 and you’re happy to give him £400 for access?
I suggested this to the other half just now who replied with this photo. He's moved his car halfway down the drive just in case we dare think about using it for access anyway.Ultimately I don't think he's the type to be reasoned with, sadly and I can see why he's fallen out with so many other neighbours. We'll have to suck up the £800 and hope we don't have any reason to need a favour from him in future. Some neighbours just aren't very neighbourly!
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