Neighbourly Issues

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fouronthefloor

457 posts

84 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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TheAngryDog said:
fouronthefloor said:
I wouldn't have asked for permission to use his drive in the first place.
It puts him in an awkward position.
He may have said yes in the first place out of courtesy and then thought about it a bit more and decided against it.
There's a fair risk involved. If you invite a lorry on to your drive and it gets damaged, who pays for it? I can tell you it's not the owner of the lorry.
It's bad enough trusting builders not to damage your own property, let alone someone else's.
In my view you've dodged a bullet but potentially ruined a neighbourly relationship, regardless of whether he's an arse.
He had 10 months to say that he had changed his mind. If he didn't want to allow it, he could have told the OP nicely at any point. "on reflection, I'd prefer it if you didn't use our drive for access as I am concerned about the damage that the lorry and its spreaders could do to the driveway". Most people who are reasonable would accept that, I know I would, and I can often be an unreasonable man/dog.
Perhaps he thought he'd wait until his neighbour contacted him to say when the work was starting? People are different, some don't like confrontation. It probably wasn't a priority for him. There could be many reasons he left it until the work started. Best to have not got involved with him in the first place if he has a history of being difficult.

TheAngryDog

12,407 posts

209 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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fouronthefloor said:
TheAngryDog said:
fouronthefloor said:
I wouldn't have asked for permission to use his drive in the first place.
It puts him in an awkward position.
He may have said yes in the first place out of courtesy and then thought about it a bit more and decided against it.
There's a fair risk involved. If you invite a lorry on to your drive and it gets damaged, who pays for it? I can tell you it's not the owner of the lorry.
It's bad enough trusting builders not to damage your own property, let alone someone else's.
In my view you've dodged a bullet but potentially ruined a neighbourly relationship, regardless of whether he's an arse.
He had 10 months to say that he had changed his mind. If he didn't want to allow it, he could have told the OP nicely at any point. "on reflection, I'd prefer it if you didn't use our drive for access as I am concerned about the damage that the lorry and its spreaders could do to the driveway". Most people who are reasonable would accept that, I know I would, and I can often be an unreasonable man/dog.
Perhaps he thought he'd wait until his neighbour contacted him to say when the work was starting? People are different, some don't like confrontation. It probably wasn't a priority for him. There could be many reasons he left it until the work started. Best to have not got involved with him in the first place if he has a history of being difficult.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but based on the number of times the OP asked his neighbour, why would he think that it would go this way?

What is confrontational about having a friendly chat to say that you've changed your mind? Doing it at the last minute is petty.

fouronthefloor

457 posts

84 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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The thing to remember is that everyone deals with what life throws at them in different ways. They are influenced by their life experiences and what seems reasonable to some, is unreasonable to others.
This neighbour may or may not have issues but the current trend to shame and stir up hatred seems to have reached every corner of the media. There are far too many people getting wound up over nothing, and let's face it, this is nothing.
People need to start being a bit more tolerant. So what if the neighbour changed his mind - he's entitled to. Move on.

TA14

12,722 posts

258 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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fouronthefloor said:
Move on.
Quite. I'd be more worried about their analysis of the internal doors.

BoggoStump

315 posts

49 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Maybe he wants in with you and your partner, ask him to come round one night for some swinging.

595Heaven

2,418 posts

78 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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TheAngryDog said:
595Heaven said:
We bought our house from a couple who were at their wits' end with the neighbour (not that they notified us when selling). We found out once we moved in. We're certainly not close, but we get along fine. No point in inflaming things any more. Shame he'll miss the New Garden party all the other neighbours get invited to though!
Legally the ex owners of your home had to tell you about the dispute. Did you think to follow this up?
Yes, they should have done. When we moved in a few of the neighbours gave us some of the details of the issues that had allegedly happened. We did go back to our solicitor but they were not massively interested. Not really sure what they can do either - the transaction can’t really be reversed.

As it happens, they keep themselves largely to themselves and when we do speak it is all very civil. Eleven years on its not been an issue thankfully! Know friends who have had problem neighbours and it must be horrible.

roadsmash

2,622 posts

70 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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bennno said:
Said neighbour doesn't want the inconvenience, mess and potential damage to his private drive or car from diggers, materials and waste being moved over it. He'd rather the OP used his drive and side passage.

Op is continuing to have a toys out of the pram, entitled, prattle on IMHO.
I think you’re missing the bit where the neighbour had originally agreed to it before changing his mind at the last minute.

That’s what makes him a prat. I’d throw my toys out the pram too if I was the OP.

Blackpuddin

16,525 posts

205 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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595Heaven said:
Know friends who have had problem neighbours and it must be horrible.
We were surrounded by asshats (and no I promise you it wasn't us!) but we've moved now and what a difference living among normal people makes. Never take good neighbours for granted.

TheAngryDog

12,407 posts

209 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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595Heaven said:
TheAngryDog said:
595Heaven said:
We bought our house from a couple who were at their wits' end with the neighbour (not that they notified us when selling). We found out once we moved in. We're certainly not close, but we get along fine. No point in inflaming things any more. Shame he'll miss the New Garden party all the other neighbours get invited to though!
Legally the ex owners of your home had to tell you about the dispute. Did you think to follow this up?
Yes, they should have done. When we moved in a few of the neighbours gave us some of the details of the issues that had allegedly happened. We did go back to our solicitor but they were not massively interested. Not really sure what they can do either - the transaction can’t really be reversed.

As it happens, they keep themselves largely to themselves and when we do speak it is all very civil. Eleven years on its not been an issue thankfully! Know friends who have had problem neighbours and it must be horrible.
At least you've not suffered, thankfully. I am not sure what you could have done post sale, which is wrong really.

StuTheGrouch

5,735 posts

162 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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TA14 said:
Quite. I'd be more worried about their analysis of the internal doors.
This! Nosey bds