Any idea how much a kitchen can cost?

Any idea how much a kitchen can cost?

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UTH

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Thursday 23rd July 2020
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Sorry for the very basic image, but anyone got any idea at all how much one should expect a kitchen of this size to cost? I know that people will say “we’ll you can spend 75k just on a marble surface” but I mean in general what would a “normal” ballpark be? Layout vaguely shown below, starting from scratch (ripping out old kitchen). We talking 5k, 10k or don’t be ridiculous that’ll be at least 20k?



I don't really know how it works when you get quotes in terms of dishwasher, fridges, wine fridges and so on.....are they all separate purchases, or do kitchen places include them?

As an example I looked at this: https://www.wrenkitchens.com/kitchens/country-draw...

But it's not immediately clear to me if this is a case of no matter what size your room is, that's how much it'll be, or is that a guide for a certain number of units etc

Edited by UTH on Thursday 23 July 14:53

DavidY

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Thursday 23rd July 2020
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When starting from scratch do you mean, new flooring, electrics, lights, etc or just kitchen units and appliances?

UTH

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DavidY said:
When starting from scratch do you mean, new flooring, electrics, lights, etc or just kitchen units and appliances?
I think I'd want to put a new floor down.....electric in terms of lights not actually sure, I'll say no for now we'll keep what's there. I imagine we can maybe work with the existing socket points as well.

smn159

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Thursday 23rd July 2020
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Doing any of it yourself or getting someone in to do all of it, including plumbing, electrics, disposal of old kitchen - or somewhere in between?

Doing it yourself is massively different price wise to a turn key job

hotchy

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Thursday 23rd July 2020
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Well mines just complete came in at

Flooring - £525 (but I put it down and it done the entire downstairs not just kitchen. on offer at costco at the time)

Kitchen units incl sink, and splash backs all round, worktop - £4900 take away £80 for spares returned

Tap - £70

Cooker £900
Hood - £200 ish
Fridge - £1100.
Glass back behind cooker £60
Plumbing for new fridge, and gas for cooker and sink, taps, dishwasher plumbing £50 mates rates.
Electrical work £100 mates rates. Loads of new sockets and repositioning, lights and under cabinet stuff.
Fancy light fitting - £70
£30 LED things under cabinets.
Kitchen fitter £1000. (Never had a mate this time)
Washing machine - (free birthday present but £400)
Dishwasher was free.

Probably other stuff iv forgot. Soon adds up. I remember thinking I'd get it done for £3k frown

So from scratch about that.

Edit. Paint and the ceiling got plastered. So another 200.

Mines is about 3.5x4m

Edited by hotchy on Thursday 23 July 15:17

PositronicRay

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Thursday 23rd July 2020
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I'd say budget £7.5-10k, fitted with appliances.

Regard anything less as a bonus, anything more a luxury.

UTH

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smn159 said:
Doing any of it yourself or getting someone in to do all of it, including plumbing, electrics, disposal of old kitchen - or somewhere in between?

Doing it yourself is massively different price wise to a turn key job
I'd certainly rip everything that's there now out myself, but in terms of actually getting the kitchen built and fitted I don't think that's something I could do myself, so that's where the costs will spiral I guess?

UTH

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Ok thanks guys, that's good to know, as I really had no frame of reference apart from thinking to myself that "surely fitting an entire kitchen is going to cost the earth"

£10k or so obviously isn't cheap, but good to know it's not like £35k!

UTH

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hotchy said:
Well mines just complete came in at

Flooring - £525 (but I put it down and it done the entire downstairs not just kitchen. on offer at costco at the time)

Kitchen units incl sink, and splash backs all round, worktop - £4900 take away £80 for spares returned

Tap - £70

Cooker £900
Hood - £200 ish
Fridge - £1100.
Glass back behind cooker £60
Plumbing for new fridge, and gas for cooker and sink, taps, dishwasher plumbing £50 mates rates.
Electrical work £100 mates rates. Loads of new sockets and repositioning, lights and under cabinet stuff.
Fancy light fitting - £70
£30 LED things under cabinets.
Kitchen fitter £1000. (Never had a mate this time)
Washing machine - (free birthday present but £400)
Dishwasher was free.

Probably other stuff iv forgot. Soon adds up. I remember thinking I'd get it done for £3k frown

So from scratch about that.

Edit. Paint and the ceiling got plastered. So another 200.

Mines is about 3.5x4m

Edited by hotchy on Thursday 23 July 15:17
Very helpful mate, thank you.

Flooring easy to do yourself, or are you quite good at that sort of thing already? Fitting flooring and carpets has always scared me as I imagine it's so easy to get slightly wrong?

mike_e

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Thursday 23rd July 2020
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Proverbial length of string, how long does one want it? Just fitted a new kitchen into a property I'm refurbishing prior to reselling. Kitchens help sell houses so went for a better spec without blowing the budget. We went for a mid range kitchen (Nobilia) and all new NEFF integrated appliances (2 x Oven, Hob, F/Freezer, Washing Machine, Dishwasher, Concealed extractor) with Blamco sink and taps and Laminate worktops. Galley kitchen with 2 x 3.6m runs. Supply only for everything was 10.5k. Did my own installation, plumbing and used the existing electrics apart from new downlighters and LED cabinet lighting. New Grade 5 porcelain tile floor added another £600 or so.Quote for fitting was about the same price as the cabinets so decided on DIY route.

Could have gone down the budget route and bought Wickes off-the-shelf stuff and Beko appliances and the price would have dropped to well under half. Incidentally, Wren quoted for the same job and it was £26k!! To be fair they then discounted everything heavily but still £14k without installation.

V8RX7

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263 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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The basic kitchen - ie excluding flooring, plastering, electrics, white goods etc depending on spec / supplier £1500 upwards

Fitting £500 upwards

I'd expect to do everything for probably sub £3k outside of London (but I'm tight)


UTH

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mike_e said:
Proverbial length of string, how long does one want it? Just fitted a new kitchen into a property I'm refurbishing prior to reselling. Kitchens help sell houses so went for a better spec without blowing the budget. We went for a mid range kitchen (Nobilia) and all new NEFF integrated appliances (2 x Oven, Hob, F/Freezer, Washing Machine, Concealed extractor) with Blamco sink and taps and Laminate worktops. Galley kitchen with 2 x 3.6m runs. Supply only for everything was 10.5k. Did my own installation, plumbing and used the existing electrics apart from new downlighters and LED cabinet lighting. New Grade 5 porcelain tile floor added another £600 or so.Quote for fitting was about the same price as the cabinets so decided on DIY route.

Could have gone down the budget route and bought Wickes off-the-shelf stuff and Beko appliances and the price would have dropped to well under half. Incidentally, Wren quoted for the same job and it was £26k!! To be fair they then discounted everything heavily but still £14k without installation.
Yeah I agree it can be the length of string conversation, but even what you've said above gives some sort of idea of the ranges that can be involved. I've heard of people spending thousands on one radiator and a couple of taps, so of course it can go nuts if you let it. I guess I'd probably be looking to go around £15k or so which sounds like it won't be a nasty cheap looking end product?

UTH

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V8RX7 said:
The basic kitchen - ie excluding flooring, plastering, electrics, white goods etc depending on spec / supplier £1500 upwards

Fitting £500 upwards

I'd expect to do everything for probably sub £3k outside of London (but I'm tight)
Ok thanks, I assume that's pretty much just cabinets, sink and fittings and work tops really then?

hotchy

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Thursday 23rd July 2020
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UTH said:
hotchy said:
Well mines just complete came in at

Flooring - £525 (but I put it down and it done the entire downstairs not just kitchen. on offer at costco at the time)

Kitchen units incl sink, and splash backs all round, worktop - £4900 take away £80 for spares returned

Tap - £70

Cooker £900
Hood - £200 ish
Fridge - £1100.
Glass back behind cooker £60
Plumbing for new fridge, and gas for cooker and sink, taps, dishwasher plumbing £50 mates rates.
Electrical work £100 mates rates. Loads of new sockets and repositioning, lights and under cabinet stuff.
Fancy light fitting - £70
£30 LED things under cabinets.
Kitchen fitter £1000. (Never had a mate this time)
Washing machine - (free birthday present but £400)
Dishwasher was free.

Probably other stuff iv forgot. Soon adds up. I remember thinking I'd get it done for £3k frown

So from scratch about that.

Edit. Paint and the ceiling got plastered. So another 200.

Mines is about 3.5x4m

Edited by hotchy on Thursday 23 July 15:17
Very helpful mate, thank you.

Flooring easy to do yourself, or are you quite good at that sort of thing already? Fitting flooring and carpets has always scared me as I imagine it's so easy to get slightly wrong?
Floor was probably the easiest DIY job tbh. Iv never done it before but I borrowed my dads chop saw and used a jig saw for the last full board end cuts. I did ruin 3-4 boards getting good at cutting with a jigsaw. Lidl has a table saw for £99 just now though haha. I'd buy that now if I needed to do it again. Litterly just click together, push down, knock with block and it's done. YouTube it. Easy as it looks.

V8RX7

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Thursday 23rd July 2020
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UTH said:
Ok thanks, I assume that's pretty much just cabinets, sink and fittings and work tops really then?
The first figure is yes, pretty much the cheapest you could do it other than buying a used one off ebay.

The second figure is the same - probably the absolute minimum it could be done for unless you can DIY it all.

There is no upper limit

DavidY

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284 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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Spend a few hours in the diy kitchens planner

https://planner.diy-kitchens.com/

You can put in appliances, or buy them separately

That will give you a good guide of a 'decent' quality kitchen, yes you can go cheaper (flatpack) and yes you can definitely go a lot more expensive!

Then add a figure for flooring/splashback/electrics/plumbing/etc £3K wouldn't be an unreasonable number.

Now thats the price for supply so you will still need someone to fit (but its really not that hard) - so perhaps another £3K-£5K, depending if they were doing flooring, tiling, painting, plumbing, electrics, ripping out old kitchen, etc, etc

I fitted ours last October, to give you a guide my units (diy kitchems) came in at £6.5K (the Wren equivalent was over 10K and IMO not as good quality)

We then added Worktops (Quartz) £3K fitted
Glass Spashback £800 (fitted)
Appliances (Bosch Stema Oven, Bosch Combi Oven, Bosch Hob, Bosch Warming Drawer, Bosch Extractor Fan, Full Height Larder Fridge) £5K
New (posh) Radiator £350 fitted
Electrics inc new lights £1400
Plumbing £200 bits

It took me about 15 man days to do all the fitting work inc laying new floor!


UTH

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Again thanks guys, great food for thought here, and still relieved no one has said I'd be spending £40k+, so that's good peace of mind already.

UTH

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DavidY said:
Spend a few hours in the diy kitchens planner

https://planner.diy-kitchens.com/

You can put in appliances, or buy them separately

That will give you a good guide of a 'decent' quality kitchen, yes you can go cheaper (flatpack) and yes you can definitely go a lot more expensive!

Then add a figure for flooring/splashback/electrics/plumbing/etc £3K wouldn't be an unreasonable number.

Now thats the price for supply so you will still need someone to fit (but its really not that hard) - so perhaps another £3K-£5K, depending if they were doing flooring, tiling, painting, plumbing, electrics, ripping out old kitchen, etc, etc

I fitted ours last October, to give you a guide my units (diy kitchems) came in at £6.5K (the Wren equivalent was over 10K and IMO not as good quality)

We then added Worktops (Quartz) £3K fitted
Glass Spashback £800 (fitted)
Appliances (Bosch Stema Oven, Bosch Combi Oven, Bosch Hob, Bosch Warming Drawer, Bosch Extractor Fan, Full Height Larder Fridge) £5K
New (posh) Radiator £350 fitted
Electrics inc new lights £1400
Plumbing £200 bits

It took me about 15 man days to do all the fitting work inc laying new floor!
Just started playing around with this thing, I see what you mean by take a few hours, certainly looks like it'll take me a bit of time.
I'm guessing you had all your measurements perfectly sorted, no room for error? Did you just spend ages choosing exactly what you wanted using this builder then pretty much clicked "buy" and that was your kitchen! Did you go and see anything in a showroom etc?

nomad5

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Thursday 23rd July 2020
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UTH said:
Again thanks guys, great food for thought here, and still relieved no one has said I'd be spending £40k+, so that's good peace of mind already.
As per what others are saying, really, you could have it all done for £3-5K, which is probably going to get you a basic enough kitchen and you're going to have to work hard to get those prices and do / coordinate a lot of it yourself.

£7-10K is probably your mid range point for something from a smaller independent outlet reasonable quality, probably something you'd be ok with in your home.

£10-20K heading up the quality, bit more wow factor

£30K upwards high end kitchen, all mod cons.

Depends on the house and your appetite for spend.


DavidY

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Thursday 23rd July 2020
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UTH said:
Just started playing around with this thing, I see what you mean by take a few hours, certainly looks like it'll take me a bit of time.
I'm guessing you had all your measurements perfectly sorted, no room for error? Did you just spend ages choosing exactly what you wanted using this builder then pretty much clicked "buy" and that was your kitchen! Did you go and see anything in a showroom etc?
I built it online (yes with exact measurements othwise its pointless), then because I wanted to feel the quality, we drove to sunny Pontefract one Sunday, this was absolutely worthwhile as not only did we get a better understanding of the unit configurations, but also its much better to see the colours in the flesh.

They have loads of PCs dotted about in the showroom, so you can go online and mod your plan there and then, we also had some assistance from their staff. We went for lunch in a local pub, £16 for Sunday Lunch and Drinks for 2, and then went back to showroom and bought 3 sample sections of doors, so we could see the colours in our own house (these eventually became my trial pieces for handle drilling tests, routing, etc!!)

Subsequently we made some mods to our plan, and with some telephone assistance added some additional panels, so that I could mount an end panel under the wall cupboards rather than have a pelmut and recess LED lights into it.

The units were delivered on time, and any issues we had however small were quickly rectified, a very good company to deal with.

(Sorry I forgot about £800 worth of sink and tap on that price schedule)

Very pleased for my first kitchen effort (and probably my last as I'm 57!!)




Picture before glass splashback added along far wall



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Edited by DavidY on Thursday 23 July 16:41