Any idea how much a kitchen can cost?

[iphonedyou]

bennno said:

Lamont appliances are crappy. You really want Bosch / neff / Siemens or zanussi / hotpoint if price main issue.induction not electric hob.

What’s on the other side of the wall with sink, if it’s an external wall there I’d swap over hob and sink to enable an extractor to be fitted.

I guess that must be a downdraft hob (Bora), rather than just a hob without extraction.

[James6112]

Mine being done in a couple of months (after extn finished)
Around 25k all in, that is for ‘pre-built’ units/quartz worktop
The wife insisted on Miele everything, the appliances are 7.5 k of the above
Kitchen fitter around 2.5k as I just want it done, rather than spend weeks myself!
The one saving so far, purchased an ex display hood from Ebay. £500 rather than 2k, not a mark on it.

[Little Lofty]

I’ve just had this fitted for my mother. Units £3.5k (lots of drawers and pull outs as shes 80 in April) Appliances around £2.5k int F/F AEG induction hob and oven, int dish and wash. Quartz £1800, flooring and tiling around £1k. All in it was a shade over £10k, ( electrics done as part of the rewire)

[Puzzles]

nice kitchen and a lovely view

[bristolbaron]

iphonedyou said:

bennno said:

Lamont appliances are crappy. You really want Bosch / neff / Siemens or zanussi / hotpoint if price main issue.induction not electric hob.

What’s on the other side of the wall with sink, if it’s an external wall there I’d swap over hob and sink to enable an extractor to be fitted.

I guess that must be a downdraft hob (Bora), rather than just a hob without extraction.

Extraction has proved to be a bit of a problem due to the length and shape of run to an outside wall not being considered before the roof went on. We now only have space for undersized extraction or a recirculating hood.

Current front runner is this:


We won’t be going with lamona appliances, they’re just the ones specced, but everything else is only going to increase the cost. I need to get Howdens down significantly or go elsewhere!

[DanL]

bristolbaron said:

Extraction has proved to be a bit of a problem due to the length and shape of run to an outside wall not being considered before the roof went on. We now only have space for undersized extraction or a recirculating hood.

Current front runner is this:


We won’t be going with lamona appliances, they’re just the ones specced, but everything else is only going to increase the cost. I need to get Howdens down significantly or go elsewhere!

A friend found Howden’s quote improved dramatically when shown the price for the equivalent from the competition (Wickes, I think).

[LocoBlade]

bristolbaron said:

Extraction has proved to be a bit of a problem due to the length and shape of run to an outside wall not being considered before the roof went on. We now only have space for undersized extraction or a recirculating hood.

Current front runner is this:


We won’t be going with lamona appliances, they’re just the ones specced, but everything else is only going to increase the cost. I need to get Howdens down significantly or go elsewhere!

I'd be very skeptical about how well a recirculating ceiling fan will work, we've got an expensive 90cm ceiling fan over our Island with a whopping 6" duct to vent outside of and that's nowhere near as good at extracting than the budget 60cm wall mounted extractor between two units using a crappy corrugated pipe in our old kitchen, simply because of the physics involved of open all 4 sides and being further away from the steam source. Add in the additional restrictions of recirculating filters and I can't see it being that great.

[UTH]

LocoBlade said:

bristolbaron said:

Extraction has proved to be a bit of a problem due to the length and shape of run to an outside wall not being considered before the roof went on. We now only have space for undersized extraction or a recirculating hood.

Current front runner is this:


We won’t be going with lamona appliances, they’re just the ones specced, but everything else is only going to increase the cost. I need to get Howdens down significantly or go elsewhere!

I'd be very skeptical about how well a recirculating ceiling fan will work, we've got an expensive 90cm ceiling fan over our Island with a whopping 6" duct to vent outside of and that's nowhere near as good at extracting than the budget 60cm wall mounted extractor between two units using a crappy corrugated pipe in our old kitchen, simply because of the physics involved of open all 4 sides and being further away from the steam source. Add in the additional restrictions of recirculating filters and I can't see it being that great.

Looks bloody MILES away from the hob in that photo as well! I can't imagine that doing much extraction at all.

[LocoBlade]

UTH said:

Looks bloody MILES away from the hob in that photo as well! I can't imagine that doing much extraction at all.

Yep ours is a lot closer than that in an island canopy about 25cm below ceiling level and it's still not amazing.

[CambsBill]

bristolbaron said:

We’re at the ‘design is almost finalised’ stage with Howdens and have just had a price through. Lamona appliances, all your standard kitchen stuff - oven/hob/dw/tall fridge/tall freezer, but no worktops - they’ve come back at 11k

The guys assuring me this is a ‘good’ rate, with little movement, but I’ve submitted the details to DIY for a comparison.

What discount is built into that price? When we bought a kitchen, we got 70% off virtually without asking.

[Groat]

Just got costing from Howdens by email for this month's dungeon's full kitchen renovation's materials: £1335.72 + £267.15 vat

Actually just noticed 24x 2.4m scotia trim packs for dungeon's laminate flooring's been included in the kitchen bill so subtract £114.96 + vat from that.

Bill in full provided by forwarding to anyone who pm's me an email address.

[bristolbaron]

DanL said:

friend found Howden’s quote improved dramatically when shown the price for the equivalent from the competition (Wickes, I think).

I ‘should’ have received a decent price to begin with, confirmed use of two separate trade accounts with decent discount structure, but it seems as neither are for my local branch they’re not too interested. I’ve had pricing through based on plans from DIY kitchens and units are coming back 30% lower. I’ll give them another crack once I’ve got the final spec done, but I’m not holding out much hope.

LocoBlade said:

UTH said:

Looks bloody MILES away from the hob in that photo as well! I can't imagine that doing much extraction at all.

Yep ours is a lot closer than that in an island canopy about 25cm below ceiling level and it's still not amazing.

We’re happy for the hood to sit a bit lower than ceiling level but don’t want to restrict the view across the room with a low hood. I’m not expecting miracles, but fingers crossed it’ll do what it needs to.

[bristolbaron]

CambsBill said:

What discount is built into that price? When we bought a kitchen, we got 70% off virtuallyy without asking.

I’ve not been shown the discounts, which I was on a previous order 4 years back. I can’t imagine there isn’t anything, but couldn’t say what! I’d guess prices have been affected by timber increases, but DIY have proven Howdens to be way off the mark.

Groat said:

Just got costing from Howdens by email for this month's dungeon's full kitchen renovation's materials: £1335.72 + £267.15 vat

Actually just noticed 24x 2.4m scotia trim packs for dungeon's laminate flooring's been included in the kitchen bill so subtract £114.96 + vat from that.

Bill in full provided by forwarding to anyone who pm's me an email address.

That could be helpful if I don’t get anywhere, thanks! I’ll be in rouch if a back up plans needed.

[Sheepshanks]

neal1980 said:

We've just started a kitchen / diner extension and the fridge / freezer will be set into the wall just like yours is. However I've assumed the doors would need to sit proud of the opening so they'll open fully - does yours work OK as it is?

Also, I'm intrigued by the light pelmet: did you do that to hide the lighting or was it needed for some other reason?

[SK555]

OP - I know you only used Wren as an example but please do some research online if you decide to go with them. There is an FB group full of people who have experiences that would make you think twice.

[gotoPzero]

Here is mine done 5 years ago.
Old kitchen stripped DIY
Floor tiled with EUFH 4k inc labour
Walls skimmed and painted 500 ish
Electrics for ovens and lights 800 ish
Units, cabinets, under counter fridge, hob, dishwasher and 2 ovens. Just under 10k incl fitting
Silestone work top and sink 5k ish fitted

Total was give or take 20k.

There is a small utility too which was 1 wall unit and a small counter and unit with 2 washing machines. Thats included.

[UTH]

SK555 said:

OP - I know you only used Wren as an example but please do some research online if you decide to go with them. There is an FB group full of people who have experiences that would make you think twice.

Ended up going with DIY kitchens

[Hans_Gruber]

That is a fantastic kitchen for 20k!
Having also had a joke of a quote from wren, it’s great to see what can be achieved by project managing yourself rather relying on them to rip you off/muck it up

[Harris15]

I paid about 3k, but it's not like an excellent design