Fitted Air conditioning
Discussion
MattyD803 said:
I have just taken delivery of my Daikin 2.5kW split which I'll install in the next week or so.....but with summer the way it is going, I expect I might be using it for heating more than cooling during August.....
Had my Daikin FTXF25D / RXF25D set up and commissioned last Tuesday....what a godsend this week. Sat in here at 21.1 degrees C, absolute bliss....it's pulling around 125W at present. What's not to like? (except possibly the purchase price, but doing some of the pre-install work myself and some man maths saw pay to that). Spot on.David A said:
48k said:
David A said:
Before they go onto the great online marketplaces is anyone interested in a used and as new Daikin FTXM50N and a used and scruffy FTXM35N both with wifi kits etc. Also have an Aspen FP082 peristaltic pump.
If I said yes to the FTXM50N, what else would I need in order to fit functioning air conditioning to my lounge?I have a big drill and some electrickery.
Managed to get hold of a grade A version of the all in one ElectricIQ wall mount unit. It’s a bit bigger than it looks on the photos isn’t it!
Now I just need to find the time to mount on the wall - a bit worried about drilling the two massive holes in the timber wall and hitting a stud! It’s a loft conversion hence timber frame.
Am planning to exhaust it on the party “flank” dormer wall as it is then out of the way and not visible from the road (although it’s the only space with outside wall as well!). Anyone know if any building regs applies to this for these two openings? I know it is a concern from a fire spread standpoint - I’ve only ever been able to conclude the regs don’t apply if the space is smaller than 1m2 - I’m hoping this is true if the wall is bigger but you have these two vents in it
Now I just need to find the time to mount on the wall - a bit worried about drilling the two massive holes in the timber wall and hitting a stud! It’s a loft conversion hence timber frame.
Am planning to exhaust it on the party “flank” dormer wall as it is then out of the way and not visible from the road (although it’s the only space with outside wall as well!). Anyone know if any building regs applies to this for these two openings? I know it is a concern from a fire spread standpoint - I’ve only ever been able to conclude the regs don’t apply if the space is smaller than 1m2 - I’m hoping this is true if the wall is bigger but you have these two vents in it
Does anyone have experience with fitted AC with condensate pumps in a bedroom?
I’m looking at getting two bedrooms done with the indoor units fitted to an internal walls and the pipes up in the loft as would prefer not having the pipes (in trunking) running round the outside of the house.
First installer that came to quote advised not to, as the pump can be noisy and have to be regularly cleaned to prevent blockage.
I’m looking at getting two bedrooms done with the indoor units fitted to an internal walls and the pipes up in the loft as would prefer not having the pipes (in trunking) running round the outside of the house.
First installer that came to quote advised not to, as the pump can be noisy and have to be regularly cleaned to prevent blockage.
Blue32 said:
Does anyone have experience with fitted AC with condensate pumps in a bedroom?
I’m looking at getting two bedrooms done with the indoor units fitted to an internal walls and the pipes up in the loft as would prefer not having the pipes (in trunking) running round the outside of the house.
First installer that came to quote advised not to, as the pump can be noisy and have to be regularly cleaned to prevent blockage.
Depends where you live but it can get windy as fI’m looking at getting two bedrooms done with the indoor units fitted to an internal walls and the pipes up in the loft as would prefer not having the pipes (in trunking) running round the outside of the house.
First installer that came to quote advised not to, as the pump can be noisy and have to be regularly cleaned to prevent blockage.
k down the side of my house and on extremely windy days which are many in Scotland the noise of the wind acting on my gravity condensate drain can wake me up. I might need to extend it into some sort of ground level windbreak arrangement .LastPoster said:
Aspen Peristaltic, mounted in the loft. It's something you can clean if you can work a screwdriver
Thanks, that looks interesting as if i understand correctly it puts the noisy bit remote away from the room, most of the pumps I have seen so far look like they are installed in the trunking next to the unit.I'm not too worried about the maintenance side, it's more the noise as the installer implied they can be quite noisy
fourstardan said:
Being in the South of France and having an AC unit lowering temps in the whole apartment im surprised how good it's been. (General Unit)
What is the running cost like for AC units?
Im surprised councils haven't started enforcing where you put these as well.
Mine in Spain work out very reasonable. Electric supply only so used for cooling and warming in winter - albeit exterior temps not so extreme in the cooler months. What is the running cost like for AC units?
Im surprised councils haven't started enforcing where you put these as well.
Blue32 said:
Thanks, that looks interesting as if i understand correctly it puts the noisy bit remote away from the room, most of the pumps I have seen so far look like they are installed in the trunking next to the unit.
I'm not too worried about the maintenance side, it's more the noise as the installer implied they can be quite noisy
We have a unit like that on the landing. I wouldn't want it in a bedroom.I'm not too worried about the maintenance side, it's more the noise as the installer implied they can be quite noisy
Every 15-20, the pump runs for 5 seconds. It's not loud enough to notice when it is daytime, but it would annoy the heck out of me at night.
We are at a stage with our refurb project to start deciding on detailes like air con and wanted a sense check.
The plan is to get AC installed in the up stairs bedrooms which are all South facing with plenty of glazing. The AC chap came yesterday and gave me the line am very familiar with now 'Its going to be complicated, you are probably going to need a commercial solution'. We've had this from the steels fabricators, glazer etc, so I wasn't suprised
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His suggestion was a 5KW outdoors unit to feed 2-3 internal units, with an guesstimate of around £7-10k which am OK with.
The main debate we are not sure about is do we really NEED AC. Given on Wednesday when I was commuting to work on my pedal bike by the time I got to work my thermal socks had a layer of ice on them.....The AC guys clearly anticipate our doubts by informing us the units can heat as well as cool.
The upstairs layout if below, the distance between the two bed rooms is around 8 meters.
For those who's had AC installed:
1: Does a £7-10k cost seem reasonable for the size of area needed.
2: Does any use AC to warm? - I presume you will use radiators most of the time in rooms with AC installed for heat?
The plan is to get AC installed in the up stairs bedrooms which are all South facing with plenty of glazing. The AC chap came yesterday and gave me the line am very familiar with now 'Its going to be complicated, you are probably going to need a commercial solution'. We've had this from the steels fabricators, glazer etc, so I wasn't suprised
.His suggestion was a 5KW outdoors unit to feed 2-3 internal units, with an guesstimate of around £7-10k which am OK with.
The main debate we are not sure about is do we really NEED AC. Given on Wednesday when I was commuting to work on my pedal bike by the time I got to work my thermal socks had a layer of ice on them.....The AC guys clearly anticipate our doubts by informing us the units can heat as well as cool
.The upstairs layout if below, the distance between the two bed rooms is around 8 meters.
For those who's had AC installed:
1: Does a £7-10k cost seem reasonable for the size of area needed.
2: Does any use AC to warm? - I presume you will use radiators most of the time in rooms with AC installed for heat?
Edited by gangzoom on Friday 8th December 05:45
gangzoom said:
We are at a stage with our refurb project to start deciding on detailes like air con and wanted a sense check.
The plan is to get AC installed in the up stairs bedrooms which are all South facing with plenty of glazing. The AC chap came yesterday and gave me the line am very familiar with now 'Its going to be complicated, you are probably going to need a commercial solution'. We've had this from the steels fabricators, glazer etc, so I wasn't suprised.
His suggestion was a 5KW outdoors unit to feed 2-3 internal units, with an guesstimate of around £7-10k which am OK with.
The main debate we are not sure about is do we really NEED AC. Given on Wednesday when I was commuting to work on my pedal bike by the time I got to work my thermal socks had a layer of ice on them.....The AC guys clearly anticipate our doubts by informing us the units can heat as well as cool.
The upstairs layout if below, the distance between the two bed rooms is around 8 meters.
For those who's had AC installed:
1: Does a £7-10k cost seem reasonable for the size of area needed.
2: Does any use AC to warm? - I presume you will use radiators most of the time in rooms with AC installed for heat?
[Img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53383206896_cb0ebc77b8_o_d.jpg[/thumb]
We're all different but as far as I'm concerned, I couldn't be without AC now. You're paying a lot more than we've paid for ours in the past but honestly, on those stifling days it's worth it's weight. Especially with South facing rooms.The plan is to get AC installed in the up stairs bedrooms which are all South facing with plenty of glazing. The AC chap came yesterday and gave me the line am very familiar with now 'Its going to be complicated, you are probably going to need a commercial solution'. We've had this from the steels fabricators, glazer etc, so I wasn't suprised
.His suggestion was a 5KW outdoors unit to feed 2-3 internal units, with an guesstimate of around £7-10k which am OK with.
The main debate we are not sure about is do we really NEED AC. Given on Wednesday when I was commuting to work on my pedal bike by the time I got to work my thermal socks had a layer of ice on them.....The AC guys clearly anticipate our doubts by informing us the units can heat as well as cool
.The upstairs layout if below, the distance between the two bed rooms is around 8 meters.
For those who's had AC installed:
1: Does a £7-10k cost seem reasonable for the size of area needed.
2: Does any use AC to warm? - I presume you will use radiators most of the time in rooms with AC installed for heat?
[Img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53383206896_cb0ebc77b8_o_d.jpg[/thumb]
Edited by gangzoom on Friday 8th December 05:45
RE the question of heating, I never use ours to heat. Don't like that kind of heat myself. I suppose if we had a problem it's there as back up. I did try and use once but it took ages to warm up as was very cold outside.
gangzoom said:
We are at a stage with our refurb project to start deciding on detailes like air con and wanted a sense check.
The plan is to get AC installed in the up stairs bedrooms which are all South facing with plenty of glazing. The AC chap came yesterday and gave me the line am very familiar with now 'Its going to be complicated, you are probably going to need a commercial solution'. We've had this from the steels fabricators, glazer etc, so I wasn't suprised.
His suggestion was a 5KW outdoors unit to feed 2-3 internal units, with an guesstimate of around £7-10k which am OK with.
The main debate we are not sure about is do we really NEED AC. Given on Wednesday when I was commuting to work on my pedal bike by the time I got to work my thermal socks had a layer of ice on them.....The AC guys clearly anticipate our doubts by informing us the units can heat as well as cool.
The upstairs layout if below, the distance between the two bed rooms is around 8 meters.
For those who's had AC installed:
1: Does a £7-10k cost seem reasonable for the size of area needed.
2: Does any use AC to warm? - I presume you will use radiators most of the time in rooms with AC installed for heat?
[Img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53383206896_cb0ebc77b8_o_d.jpg[/thumb]
I think the price is outrageous. The plan is to get AC installed in the up stairs bedrooms which are all South facing with plenty of glazing. The AC chap came yesterday and gave me the line am very familiar with now 'Its going to be complicated, you are probably going to need a commercial solution'. We've had this from the steels fabricators, glazer etc, so I wasn't suprised
.His suggestion was a 5KW outdoors unit to feed 2-3 internal units, with an guesstimate of around £7-10k which am OK with.
The main debate we are not sure about is do we really NEED AC. Given on Wednesday when I was commuting to work on my pedal bike by the time I got to work my thermal socks had a layer of ice on them.....The AC guys clearly anticipate our doubts by informing us the units can heat as well as cool
.The upstairs layout if below, the distance between the two bed rooms is around 8 meters.
For those who's had AC installed:
1: Does a £7-10k cost seem reasonable for the size of area needed.
2: Does any use AC to warm? - I presume you will use radiators most of the time in rooms with AC installed for heat?
[Img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53383206896_cb0ebc77b8_o_d.jpg[/thumb]
Edited by gangzoom on Friday 8th December 05:45
Two individual 3.5 kw high wall units should be no more than 750 pounds each, (I pay 425 in NZ for Midea units). A thousand for each install would be excessive.
gangzoom said:
For those who's had AC installed:
1: Does a £7-10k cost seem reasonable for the size of area needed.
2: Does any use AC to warm? - I presume you will use radiators most of the time in rooms with AC installed for heat?
1: Seems very expensive, for us a 3kw Daikin unit and a 3.5kw condenser was £802.80 and fitting + materials were £889.00 this was for an upstairs unit with pipes through the loft. (+vat)1: Does a £7-10k cost seem reasonable for the size of area needed.
2: Does any use AC to warm? - I presume you will use radiators most of the time in rooms with AC installed for heat?
2: Yes, it's brilliant, but if it is really cold outside the units can freeze, but it's quite rare.
gangzoom said:
We are at a stage with our refurb project to start deciding on detailes like air con and wanted a sense check.
The plan is to get AC installed in the up stairs bedrooms which are all South facing with plenty of glazing. The AC chap came yesterday and gave me the line am very familiar with now 'Its going to be complicated, you are probably going to need a commercial solution'. We've had this from the steels fabricators, glazer etc, so I wasn't suprised.
His suggestion was a 5KW outdoors unit to feed 2-3 internal units, with an guesstimate of around £7-10k which am OK with.
The main debate we are not sure about is do we really NEED AC. Given on Wednesday when I was commuting to work on my pedal bike by the time I got to work my thermal socks had a layer of ice on them.....The AC guys clearly anticipate our doubts by informing us the units can heat as well as cool.
The upstairs layout if below, the distance between the two bed rooms is around 8 meters.
For those who's had AC installed:
1: Does a £7-10k cost seem reasonable for the size of area needed.
2: Does any use AC to warm? - I presume you will use radiators most of the time in rooms with AC installed for heat?
[Img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53383206896_cb0ebc77b8_o_d.jpg[/thumb]
I would be interested to see breakdown of that quote. It sounds astronomical to meThe plan is to get AC installed in the up stairs bedrooms which are all South facing with plenty of glazing. The AC chap came yesterday and gave me the line am very familiar with now 'Its going to be complicated, you are probably going to need a commercial solution'. We've had this from the steels fabricators, glazer etc, so I wasn't suprised
.His suggestion was a 5KW outdoors unit to feed 2-3 internal units, with an guesstimate of around £7-10k which am OK with.
The main debate we are not sure about is do we really NEED AC. Given on Wednesday when I was commuting to work on my pedal bike by the time I got to work my thermal socks had a layer of ice on them.....The AC guys clearly anticipate our doubts by informing us the units can heat as well as cool
.The upstairs layout if below, the distance between the two bed rooms is around 8 meters.
For those who's had AC installed:
1: Does a £7-10k cost seem reasonable for the size of area needed.
2: Does any use AC to warm? - I presume you will use radiators most of the time in rooms with AC installed for heat?
[Img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53383206896_cb0ebc77b8_o_d.jpg[/thumb]
Edited by gangzoom on Friday 8th December 05:45
Flumpo said:
1- how much?!
2- yes use it to heat, quicker than heating the same space with gas central heating, however it’s also much more expensive.
My AC guy said it's cheaper. Because of efficiency yadda yadda2- yes use it to heat, quicker than heating the same space with gas central heating, however it’s also much more expensive.
He's a lecturer in AC and refrigeration in commercial settings so I believe what he says. That said, mines not installed yet so I'm not sure how it feels for a room to be heated via AC Vs UFH. Both new to me and neither operational yet.
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