Anyone dealt with asbestos?

[Aluminati]

UTH said:

Having spoken at length to the chap who works at the surveying company, there are of course options as to how I move forward.

For the ceiling work I want to do (mainly just going to be drilling holes for spotlights) I think I'll get my electrician to mark out exactly where everything needs drilling, then getting the asbestos company to do the actual drilling. There's nothing that says I have to remove it, but any work that does touch it and could potentially release it into the air should really be done by a qualified person. (It can of course be done by a cowboy, or yourself even, with facemask etc, but that's obviously not recommended!)

For the tiles, I think I'm going to leave them where they are and lay Fermacell over the top which the UFH company can cut into and lay the pipes. I think this is going to be much cheaper than paying someone qualified to remove all of the tiles (which will still leave a small amount of the bitumen the tiles are stuck to) then laying screed over the top.

Only problem with this route with the floor is that obviously the asbestos is still there; it's pretty much completely safe left alone, especially with another layer of 'stuff' over the top, but I won't have that ideal peace of mind knowing it has all been removed.

Some good advice here. We usually use shaving foam.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/guidance/a9.pdf

[mart 63]

UTH said:

I'm probably looking at 55-70 sq m of downstairs tiles that would need taking up.
Without doing the accurate maths (still waiting on a quote for professional tile removal until I can do that) I just think the added cost of getting rid of these tiles properly will then push the UFH part of our renovation plan beyond what we can justify, given how much other stuff we have to do. As it stands I think we could justify it with one of the systems where you leave the tiles as they are, but we will do some more accurate maths once the quote comes in from the asbestos guys and see how the numbers look.

I contract to a county council, doing void works. At least once a month we have floor tiles removed. The asbestos company i use, charge me around £30 sq m. We then pva the floors and self level with Ardex NA.
Another job I'm on now has a 2 sq m sheet of AIB plasterboard under the staircase. We had to inform the HSE and have to wait 2 weeks to remove it. The cost is £1200 to remove the board and a further £460 for a separate company to do the air test.

Edited by mart 63 on Wednesday 21st October 06:30

[LocoBlade]

UTH said:

Thanks mate, not sure I was aware of needing screed for the JK option so that could well swing my vote, as you’re right Wunda option is starting to look more cost effective.

When you say solid floor, does that include laminate and I think that’s what we’re leaning towards, even more so if screed isn’t required.

I think screed or overboarding is generally only required for "soft" flooring that would fall into the grooves when you walked on it, things like carpet or vinyl tiles so you should be OK with interlocking laminate, but best ask them. When you log onto the Wundatrade website and select one of those kits there's a compatibility table (not sure why it doesn't show when not logged in) that says which types of flooring that does/doesn't need an "intermediate layer" which I assume means something between the foil sheets and your flooring, the top end Premium Plus version doesn't need an intermediate layer for anything apparently.

Edited by LocoBlade on Wednesday 21st October 07:33

[mhocking]

mackay45 said:

Do you mind sharing some links to the products you've found which can be laid over adhesive? Need to do something similar myself in due course.

Arditex NA was the one that seemed to be ok covering pretty much anything: https://ardex.co.uk/product/arditex-na/

Fortunately, the samples came no back with no asbestos present in either the tiles or adhesive so we'll rip the tiles up and just use the above to cover the adhesive. HTH.

[eliot]

OMITN said:

The 24sqm integral garage ceiling (all confirmed as AIB) I had done in readiness for the building work cost the best part of £3k.... .

My dad insulated his garden workshop with the stuff in the 80’s - after my mum died I knew it would be the right thing to do to get it removed before selling the place.
I paid about 3.5k to have it removed.
Fully notifiable, tents, air system, decontamination unit and certificates.
Thing is none of the three surveyors looked in the workshop - was which means I could of easily not bothered and left the new owners to deal with it if i was that way inclined.

[UTH]

LocoBlade said:

UTH said:

Thanks mate, not sure I was aware of needing screed for the JK option so that could well swing my vote, as you’re right Wunda option is starting to look more cost effective.

When you say solid floor, does that include laminate and I think that’s what we’re leaning towards, even more so if screed isn’t required.

I think screed or overboarding is generally only required for "soft" flooring that would fall into the grooves when you walked on it, things like carpet or vinyl tiles so you should be OK with interlocking laminate, but best ask them. When you log onto the Wundatrade website and select one of those kits there's a compatibility table (not sure why it doesn't show when not logged in) that says which types of flooring that does/doesn't need an "intermediate layer" which I assume means something between the foil sheets and your flooring, the top end Premium Plus version doesn't need an intermediate layer for anything apparently.

Edited by LocoBlade on Wednesday 21st October 07:33

Nice one thank you

[Condi]

I removed an asbestos chimney myself using all the correct PPE and simply took it to the tip double bagged as per their instructions.

I also took up quite a large area of black floor tiles, without much PPE and with a hammer and chisel. Think they went in a skip. Didn't even consider that they would be contain asbestos and so never had them tested or took any suitable precautions. Hopefully there has been no lasting effects!

[UTH]

Condi said:

I removed an asbestos chimney myself using all the correct PPE and simply took it to the tip double bagged as per their instructions.

I also took up quite a large area of black floor tiles, without much PPE and with a hammer and chisel. Think they went in a skip. Didn't even consider that they would be contain asbestos and so never had them tested or took any suitable precautions. Hopefully there has been no lasting effects!

To be honest it does sound like there is very little risk with all of the stuff in my house (and likely most houses)
So I wouldn't be surprised if plenty of people have ripped things up/out themselves in this situation with no negative effects at all, and probably chucked it in a skip without even knowing they shouldn't.

I suppose it's just the official line that it needs to be dealt with safely and properly etc.