Mate erected fence backwards

[saaby93]

Example from tinterweb

EggsBenedict said:

mstrbkr said:

Would help if they’d got the correct thickness for the arris rails in that one, to match the recesses in the posts. That’s really untidy.

And trimmed those bolts too.

If I suddenly had all those concrete posts in my garden when before I had a smooth fence, I'd be unhappy too.

Did your mate take wooden posts out and put concrete in?

you dont need to ask that

Would it be good to bolt a single board to the nut side of the posts to make them look wooden?

[PositronicRay]

saaby93 said:

Would it be good to bolt a single board to the nut side of the posts to make them look wooden?

I've seen that done, looks OK when stained.

[mikeveal]

saaby93 said:

mikeveal said:

They're called arris rails.

It is convention & good manners to put the good side of your fence towards your neighbours. You are not compelled to do so.

Isnt it more than convention but because the fence boards follow the line of the boundary and the posts are firmly on your land?
By putting the fence on the wrong side of the posts he's given them batches of 6ft x6inches of his garden?

I don't think so, it remains you mate's fence on his land, regardless of which side the boards are.

saaby93 said:

The question was whats the best way to rectify it if you decide you want the fence on the other side of the posts after all?

Don't alter wwhat's already there. Attach a second arris rail atop (love that word) the existing rails. This will give a vertical face on the neighbours side to which a second set of feather boards can be nailed. Both your mate and his neighbour get to look at a "good" side.

He'll have to clear leaves muck from the gap to stop the fence rotting, but apart from that it should work OK.

[Gareth79]

The convention that the good side faces out isn't because it looks nice for the neighbors, but because it's more secure. If you were entirely enclosing a piece of land with a 6ft fence for security you wouldn't face it out such that each panel has a built-in ladder It doesn't make as much sense for the inner fences in a row of houses, but the result is that the outer edges of the land will always have a flat surfaced fence.

[EggsBenedict]

PositronicRay said:

saaby93 said:

Would it be good to bolt a single board to the nut side of the posts to make them look wooden?

I've seen that done, looks OK when stained.

Think you'd need to enclose them really. Otherwise they'd only look OK from dead front on.

The 'double fence' idea is a good one. I have something like that at mine for one fence - sort of double sided fence - it has a capping on top to stop stuff falling down in between.

[LeadFarmer]

SAB888 said:

If the boards were on the neighbour's side then you would surely have to be in the neighbour's property in order to fix them, unless you had incredibly long arms!

True, and unless they were pre made panels then you'd have to be stood on the neighbours property to nail each board to the arris rails.

[LeadFarmer]

hyphen said:

The thinking is that each neighbour puts the good side on their neighbours, so each house ends up with one good side, and one not as good side.

That would look odd to me. I'd want every side of my garden to have kennels that face outwards. But unless your paying for it all then you have to accept what your neighbours do on their side.

[Pericoloso]

Someone has to get the crappy side with all the fixings n stuff .

My neighbour decided the fence was getting a little shabby and asked to replace it , a foot higher too .

My side went from clean and tidy to crappy but as he paid and did all the work to MY fence I'm not bothered .

TLDR....I got a new fence for free .

[Hoofy]

saaby93 said:

found this image online but it has rectangular recesses


I need to go and see if theyre the same

I guess it's better to have that on your side because if a scrote is in the other garden they cannot climb over to your side. Whereas I would put a notice in my back garden saying that next door has nicer jewellery and iPads, and here's a handy point for you to climb over.

[anonymous-user]

Pericoloso said:

Someone has to get the crappy side with all the fixings n stuff.

I prefer the panels to butt up against the sides of the posts so everyone gets the same

[saaby93]

mstrbkr said:

Pericoloso said:

Someone has to get the crappy side with all the fixings n stuff.

I prefer the panels to butt up against the sides of the posts so everyone gets the same

The posts in that image above have sideways holes
Do you run bolts all the way through those for side fixings?

[anonymous-user]

saaby93 said:

The posts in that image above have sideways holes
Do you run bolts all the way through those for side fixings?

You can buy concrete posts with 2 channels running down the full length, one on one side and one on the opposite side. Then slot the panels down the channel.

Or for a wooden post you buy U shaped brackets to screw into the posts, and slot your panel into those. Then screw the U shaped brackets to the panels.

[sospan]

We put up a fence with panels that slot into metal channeled posts. Identical on both sides. Good finish for both sides. Offset panels either side so gaps reduce wind force but privacy maintained.

[M22s]

I’m normally in the ‘keep the peace with neighbours and have an easy life camp’ but if I footed the full bill I’d want the good side and wouldn’t make much effort to appease the grumbles. I’ve always gone 50/50 with neighbours regardless of who should technically pay as I just think it’s the right thing to do, in which case then are welcome to which ever side they want.

[hyphen]

M22s said:

I’m normally in the ‘keep the peace with neighbours and have an easy life camp’ but if I footed the full bill I’d want the good side and wouldn’t make much effort to appease the grumbles. I’ve always gone 50/50 with neighbours regardless of who should technically pay as I just think it’s the right thing to do, in which case then are welcome to which ever side they want.

And your neighbours on the other side to follow your example? So you have one good side and one bad side. Just like now

It's like the US Constitution, our forefathers already figured it out, best you just follow.

[CAPP0]

Bear in mind that if you put fencing with horizontal rails up with the "good" side facing inwards, then depending on the area where you live, you have just provided intruders with a handy permanent stepladder to get into your garden with.

[M22s]

hyphen said:

M22s said:

I’m normally in the ‘keep the peace with neighbours and have an easy life camp’ but if I footed the full bill I’d want the good side and wouldn’t make much effort to appease the grumbles. I’ve always gone 50/50 with neighbours regardless of who should technically pay as I just think it’s the right thing to do, in which case then are welcome to which ever side they want.

And your neighbours on the other side to follow your example? So you have one good side and one bad side. Just like now

It's like the US Constitution, our forefathers already figured it out, best you just follow.

Ha! Touché!

[AJL308]

EggsBenedict said:

And trimmed those bolts too.

If I suddenly had all those concrete posts in my garden when before I had a smooth fence, I'd be unhappy too.

Did your mate take wooden posts out and put concrete in?

They wouldn't be in your garden though if they are on his side of the boundary. If the original posts were actually on the boundary then it might be open to question as to who owns them or what duty he has to reinstall them where the old ones were.

The other posters are correct, you are under no obligation to install a fence in any particular way. There is no such thing as the "nicer" or "proper" side. If it's on you land you can do what you want.

[ChocolateFrog]

Isn't another reason to do it with the good side out to bot give the crims a ladder onto your property?

[48k]

Surprised nobody's mentioned about the arris rail acting like a ladder for ne'er-do-wells.