Can I build my own river?

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Peter911

483 posts

157 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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you just need a drain from the local canal...

eliot

11,429 posts

254 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Trichloroacetaldehyde chic said:
I spent years convinced I could make a battery toy car run forever if I put an extra motor in as a dynamo to run the drive motor. My dad promised me £200 if I could get it to work.
Bcensoredstard. laugh
I spent a saturday morning arguing with my dad doing the same thing in the 80’s. I said it was just a matter of pushing my lego creation a bit faster to get it going on it’s own.

Wacky Racer

38,160 posts

247 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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If they could build The Suez and Manchester ship canals, I'm sure you could build a stream smile

dmsims

6,519 posts

267 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Did this a couple of yeras ago when looking at replacing 2 pond pumps


rxe

6,700 posts

103 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Trichloroacetaldehyde chic said:
I spent years convinced I could make a battery toy car run forever if I put an extra motor in as a dynamo to run the drive motor. My dad promised me £200 if I could get it to work.
Bcensoredstard. laugh
I was fascinated by transformers that could turn one voltage into another. If I could reverse the transformer that ran my calculator, I would be able to make mains from a PP3 battery and power the world with it. Scientists were obviously too busy to think of this answer to the energy crisis. I blew a lot of st up when I was a kid....

foggy

1,159 posts

282 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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This reminds of the river damming project thread. Whatever happened there I wonder...

Trichloroacetaldehyde chic

5,245 posts

120 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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rxe said:
I was fascinated by transformers that could turn one voltage into another. If I could reverse the transformer that ran my calculator, I would be able to make mains from a PP3 battery and power the world with it. Scientists were obviously too busy to think of this answer to the energy crisis. I blew a lot of st up when I was a kid....
Also electrolytic capacitors go bang VERY loudly.

williamp

19,256 posts

273 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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A moat. With a drawbridge. Anything less is just playing..

skilly1

2,702 posts

195 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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I created a stream starting from a top pool, down a stream to a middle pool, then again a stream to a bottom pool.

Pumps in bottom pool pump water to top of a rock waterfalll. Someone mentioned dirty water pumps, we used 2 big dirty water pumps, 3 phase, you want volume of water, not high pressure so they work well.

You need wiers at end of each pool/stream to hold water should pumps stop, otherwise bottom pool floods.

Stream and pools have slate chipping a in to make look nice, also it holds fine particles and makes it run clear.

You wants pools at least 1m deep so water does not get too hot and you would get a lot of algae.

I used a company which lines the pool and streams using heavy duty plastic welded together, they also put a protective material under and over the plastic to stop it getting punctured.

I was going to line with a special self healing clay liner called bentonite but my walls were too steep for it. Sounds like it would be good for your project.








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Turn7

23,608 posts

221 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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That is ONE serious project, hat firmy tipped sir!

More pics if poss.....

Digger

14,669 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Promised Land said:
Or build your own MC Escher one wink

https://youtu.be/0v2xnl6LwJE
How?

No seriously, how does that work?

eta - i get it is some kind of optical illusion . . . still wondering though

Edited by Digger on Wednesday 24th February 00:59

the tribester

2,391 posts

86 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Crikey.

Austin_Metro

1,214 posts

48 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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skilly1 said:
I created a stream starting from a top pool, down a stream to a middle pool, then again a stream to a bottom pool.

Pumps in bottom pool pump water to top of a rock waterfalll. Someone mentioned dirty water pumps, we used 2 big dirty water pumps, 3 phase, you want volume of water, not high pressure so they work well.

You need wiers at end of each pool/stream to hold water should pumps stop, otherwise bottom pool floods.

Stream and pools have slate chipping a in to make look nice, also it holds fine particles and makes it run clear.

You wants pools at least 1m deep so water does not get too hot and you would get a lot of algae.

I used a company which lines the pool and streams using heavy duty plastic welded together, they also put a protective material under and over the plastic to stop it getting punctured.

I was going to line with a special self healing clay liner called bentonite but my walls were too steep for it. Sounds like it would be good for your project.








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Crazy golf?

Very cool water features!

montecristo

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1,043 posts

177 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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dmsims said:
Did this a couple of yeras ago when looking at replacing 2 pond pumps

Thank you, that could be very useful.

montecristo

Original Poster:

1,043 posts

177 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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skilly1 said:
I created a stream starting from a top pool, down a stream to a middle pool, then again a stream to a bottom pool.

Pumps in bottom pool pump water to top of a rock waterfalll. Someone mentioned dirty water pumps, we used 2 big dirty water pumps, 3 phase, you want volume of water, not high pressure so they work well.

You need wiers at end of each pool/stream to hold water should pumps stop, otherwise bottom pool floods.

Stream and pools have slate chipping a in to make look nice, also it holds fine particles and makes it run clear.

You wants pools at least 1m deep so water does not get too hot and you would get a lot of algae.

I used a company which lines the pool and streams using heavy duty plastic welded together, they also put a protective material under and over the plastic to stop it getting punctured.

I was going to line with a special self healing clay liner called bentonite but my walls were too steep for it. Sounds like it would be good for your project.
Excellent, thank you. Bentonite is what we've used in the pond.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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What a seriously cool project, lots of pitfalls but very, very interesting. Also enjoyed the crack about trying for perpetual motion in early years-I think we all must have went through that (were batteries really expensive in the early 80s or something?)!

tomsugden

2,235 posts

228 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Equus said:
If so, I'd have thought your best bet would be to have ponds top and bottom to act as 'reservoirs' then pump from the bottom pond to the top, so that the top pond is continually overspilling to feed the 'river'. The bottom pond could be replaced with a pumpwell, if you don't want a second pond
If they can do it on Goldrush, I'm sure a pistonheads company director could sort it in an afternoon.

mfmman

2,389 posts

183 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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I used to go to a house (to maintain the swimming pool heating) that had a stream right around the outside, it was more of a feature than something trying to look natural and ran over a few weirs etc on it's way around then was pumped back up again but the fall was less than 200mm all the way around. The weirs formed sections for fish etc (they had a heron problem though).

Looked great though and as a impressionable young lad it was very much the place the person who had 'made it' would own. Just looked on Google maps and think I have found the house but no sign of a stream so maybe it's been removed now which is a shame

Promised Land

4,724 posts

209 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Digger said:
Promised Land said:
Or build your own MC Escher one wink

https://youtu.be/0v2xnl6LwJE
How?

No seriously, how does that work?

eta - i get it is some kind of optical illusion . . . still wondering though

Edited by Digger on Wednesday 24th February 00:59
Have a look on you tube for answers, it’s not all one part and is an optical illusion in the sense you think it is.

Not in the sense the water runs up hill as it cannot.

Hence why the camera is set up there, but IIRC it is 3 separate parts made to look like one.

alorotom

11,939 posts

187 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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skilly1 said:
I created a stream starting from a top pool, down a stream to a middle pool, then again a stream to a bottom pool.

Pumps in bottom pool pump water to top of a rock waterfalll. Someone mentioned dirty water pumps, we used 2 big dirty water pumps, 3 phase, you want volume of water, not high pressure so they work well.

You need wiers at end of each pool/stream to hold water should pumps stop, otherwise bottom pool floods.

Stream and pools have slate chipping a in to make look nice, also it holds fine particles and makes it run clear.

You wants pools at least 1m deep so water does not get too hot and you would get a lot of algae.

I used a company which lines the pool and streams using heavy duty plastic welded together, they also put a protective material under and over the plastic to stop it getting punctured.

I was going to line with a special self healing clay liner called bentonite but my walls were too steep for it. Sounds like it would be good for your project.








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Please tell me this is a personal crazy golf golf course in your garden and not a commercial affair!

Amazing work!