Where to retire in the UK
Discussion
DodgyGeezer said:
This is one of our issues, the explosion of prices this last 18months (will there be a corresponding drop at some point?). I really like Frinton (except I'm not sure about the impact of salt air on a keeper car) but seeing as daughter has moved to crewe it's not really practical. 
Frinton does look nice but that could be a sign of me getting old. Isn't all the East coast inclined to be colder in Winter though (yep, old).Rye was mentioned some time back. Camber was overwhelmed at the weekend, with the traffic backed up where coloured in the map, as well as further E.
https://goo.gl/maps/sR2yBoC6ZyRtzxRV8
Edited by Sticks. on Monday 21st June 09:45
GT3Manthey said:
DodgyGeezer said:
This is one of our issues, the explosion of prices this last 18months (will there be a corresponding drop at some point?). I really like Frinton (except I'm not sure about the impact of salt air on a keeper car) but seeing as daughter has moved to crewe it's not really practical.
Garage for the classic maybe? Yes Frinton to Crewe is one hell of a journey.
I’m assuming you are local so know Frinton ?
Quiet
Reasonable high street
Medical facilities
Dental services
Large(ish) town quite close
Mega-city a couple of hours away
It's not a 'seaside town'
Not insane pricing (especially for the SE)
Nice 'feel'
Still closeish to existing friends
But daughter will almost certainly never move back south (affordability issues as much as anything else) soooo it looks like we're going to be Midlands area (1hr from Crewe, preferred southeast of crewe) so as to have:
- relatively easy access to (potential) grandchildren
- better quality of life (ie not as rammed full of people)
- cheaper than our current house (albeit not by as much as we'd have hoped. Weirdly there are a LOT that are significantly cheaper, but not 'us'; a fair amount that are a similar price, but with too much land; however, not a lot in between)
DodgyGeezer said:
Localish (Bill-town). To me Frinton ticks all my boxes...
Quiet
Reasonable high street
Medical facilities
Dental services
Large(ish) town quite close
Mega-city a couple of hours away
It's not a 'seaside town'
Not insane pricing (especially for the SE)
Nice 'feel'
Still closeish to existing friends
But daughter will almost certainly never move back south (affordability issues as much as anything else) soooo it looks like we're going to be Midlands area (1hr from Crewe, preferred southeast of crewe) so as to have:
- relatively easy access to (potential) grandchildren
- better quality of life (ie not as rammed full of people)
- cheaper than our current house (albeit not by as much as we'd have hoped. Weirdly there are a LOT that are significantly cheaper, but not 'us'; a fair amount that are a similar price, but with too much land; however, not a lot in between)
Kids not being able to afford to buy in the south might well impact us too so that might be something we also have to review at some stage. Quiet
Reasonable high street
Medical facilities
Dental services
Large(ish) town quite close
Mega-city a couple of hours away
It's not a 'seaside town'
Not insane pricing (especially for the SE)
Nice 'feel'
Still closeish to existing friends
But daughter will almost certainly never move back south (affordability issues as much as anything else) soooo it looks like we're going to be Midlands area (1hr from Crewe, preferred southeast of crewe) so as to have:
- relatively easy access to (potential) grandchildren
- better quality of life (ie not as rammed full of people)
- cheaper than our current house (albeit not by as much as we'd have hoped. Weirdly there are a LOT that are significantly cheaper, but not 'us'; a fair amount that are a similar price, but with too much land; however, not a lot in between)
Frinton doesn’t have the best local medical is the story but we don’t use it as we are just 2nd home owners currently albeit it a flat which we’ll need to sell.
Good point about not being a ‘seaside town’
They refer to it as being a ‘town by the sea’ so it does maintain some of its values and traditions.
Has changed a fair bit over the last few years with new restaurants which TBF it needed.
You’re probably aware of the big bust up with the gates a few years back too !
Good luck
moorx said:
roscopervis said:
monkfish1 said:
Assuming you are not welsh, how are you finding living there? Increasingly, im considering it.
I wonder what the locals at these places really think of people with retiring money moving there? This migration is terrible for the affordability of houses for the local people and most neighbour disputes are from incomers who either do things that don’t respect where they are or are upset when farmers do farming that doesn’t agree with their idea of a countryside idyll.If anyone can’t tell, I’m not a fan of this.
We did not retire here; I am still working full time (as I said, for the local NHS) and my partner works on our property. We currently survive on my salary only. The property we bought is not your typical retirement property, or one which most locals would be interested in buying - it's an old farmhouse with two converted barns (holiday lets) and 10 acres of land. We bought it as a business venture.
As for being 'incomers' who don't respect the countryside - we are both from rural/semi rural areas, with knowledge of farming, and a love for the countryside, particularly Wales. Fortunately, the few neighbours we have don't regard us as 'incomers' and have been very welcoming.
I understand your point, but don't tar everyone with the same brush please.
Unfortunately in my line of work I hear and see the ideas and questions from many retirees wishing to move to a rural area who clearly have no idea or respect for where they are thinking of moving to, don’t like being told they can’t do things on land that they want to own, even if nobody could see it, and for those that do move, they will, in many cases, quarrel with their neighbour.
What really winds me up is their long term inability to learn how to say the name of their house and or village and the almost inevitable name change to something like “Two Hoots” or “Monk’s Rest” with absolutely no logic or link to the original house name or the area. Hugely frustrating.
Over the longer term this has eroded and diluted the ‘indigenous’ local ideas and politics and essentially allowed parties that would not have any traction in these areas now having a voice and this in turn means that the natural politics and parties of the areas are now diluted. The retired incomers ideas and politics for the area is not the same as what the locals typically would like and the division grows.
As I said, workers who move to contribute is typically a good thing. Older people, whether we like it or not become a burden on the Local Authorities and NHS in those areas and their politics isn’t good for growth.
I know this won’t be a popular or even an opinion many could even empathise with. It is something that I have been involved in looking at in some detail as part of local plan’s and through personal interest. The view really is different from the perspective of the existing locals.
roscopervis said:
My point was specifically about people retiring moving to such rural areas. I have no problem whatsoever with people who move to work and contribute to the areas to which they move, especially ones who understand and also contribute to the type of area it is.
Unfortunately in my line of work I hear and see the ideas and questions from many retirees wishing to move to a rural area who clearly have no idea or respect for where they are thinking of moving to, don’t like being told they can’t do things on land that they want to own, even if nobody could see it, and for those that do move, they will, in many cases, quarrel with their neighbour.
What really winds me up is their long term inability to learn how to say the name of their house and or village and the almost inevitable name change to something like “Two Hoots” or “Monk’s Rest” with absolutely no logic or link to the original house name or the area. Hugely frustrating.
Over the longer term this has eroded and diluted the ‘indigenous’ local ideas and politics and essentially allowed parties that would not have any traction in these areas now having a voice and this in turn means that the natural politics and parties of the areas are now diluted. The retired incomers ideas and politics for the area is not the same as what the locals typically would like and the division grows.
As I said, workers who move to contribute is typically a good thing. Older people, whether we like it or not become a burden on the Local Authorities and NHS in those areas and their politics isn’t good for growth.
I know this won’t be a popular or even an opinion many could even empathise with. It is something that I have been involved in looking at in some detail as part of local plan’s and through personal interest. The view really is different from the perspective of the existing locals.
Your argument is a bit like the second home argument, except retirees actually use local shops, use local builders, use local restaurants/ pubs, buy from local car dealers, fit kitchens, bathrooms, needs gardening services on a continual basis etc. etc. Funding for NHS is centrally funded and probably contributed more by the retiree over their lifetime. Retirees will live in the rural area in non-holiday times supporting the local economy.Unfortunately in my line of work I hear and see the ideas and questions from many retirees wishing to move to a rural area who clearly have no idea or respect for where they are thinking of moving to, don’t like being told they can’t do things on land that they want to own, even if nobody could see it, and for those that do move, they will, in many cases, quarrel with their neighbour.
What really winds me up is their long term inability to learn how to say the name of their house and or village and the almost inevitable name change to something like “Two Hoots” or “Monk’s Rest” with absolutely no logic or link to the original house name or the area. Hugely frustrating.
Over the longer term this has eroded and diluted the ‘indigenous’ local ideas and politics and essentially allowed parties that would not have any traction in these areas now having a voice and this in turn means that the natural politics and parties of the areas are now diluted. The retired incomers ideas and politics for the area is not the same as what the locals typically would like and the division grows.
As I said, workers who move to contribute is typically a good thing. Older people, whether we like it or not become a burden on the Local Authorities and NHS in those areas and their politics isn’t good for growth.
I know this won’t be a popular or even an opinion many could even empathise with. It is something that I have been involved in looking at in some detail as part of local plan’s and through personal interest. The view really is different from the perspective of the existing locals.
We live in a global economy and whilst I respect local traditions and 'indigenous' ideas, I question how these communities would survive without migration of populations (both ways). I suspect migration would only occur out of these rural populations without the migration inwards. A downward spiral.
If the name of a house is really the crux to the argument - I think the point has been missed.
I am fully anticipating my kids leaving their birth county on the Isle of Wight and will encourage them to do so, if they wish.
mike9009 said:
roscopervis said:
My point was specifically about people retiring moving to such rural areas. I have no problem whatsoever with people who move to work and contribute to the areas to which they move, especially ones who understand and also contribute to the type of area it is.
Unfortunately in my line of work I hear and see the ideas and questions from many retirees wishing to move to a rural area who clearly have no idea or respect for where they are thinking of moving to, don’t like being told they can’t do things on land that they want to own, even if nobody could see it, and for those that do move, they will, in many cases, quarrel with their neighbour.
What really winds me up is their long term inability to learn how to say the name of their house and or village and the almost inevitable name change to something like “Two Hoots” or “Monk’s Rest” with absolutely no logic or link to the original house name or the area. Hugely frustrating.
Over the longer term this has eroded and diluted the ‘indigenous’ local ideas and politics and essentially allowed parties that would not have any traction in these areas now having a voice and this in turn means that the natural politics and parties of the areas are now diluted. The retired incomers ideas and politics for the area is not the same as what the locals typically would like and the division grows.
As I said, workers who move to contribute is typically a good thing. Older people, whether we like it or not become a burden on the Local Authorities and NHS in those areas and their politics isn’t good for growth.
I know this won’t be a popular or even an opinion many could even empathise with. It is something that I have been involved in looking at in some detail as part of local plan’s and through personal interest. The view really is different from the perspective of the existing locals.
Your argument is a bit like the second home argument, except retirees actually use local shops, use local builders, use local restaurants/ pubs, buy from local car dealers, fit kitchens, bathrooms, needs gardening services on a continual basis etc. etc. Funding for NHS is centrally funded and probably contributed more by the retiree over their lifetime. Retirees will live in the rural area in non-holiday times supporting the local economy.Unfortunately in my line of work I hear and see the ideas and questions from many retirees wishing to move to a rural area who clearly have no idea or respect for where they are thinking of moving to, don’t like being told they can’t do things on land that they want to own, even if nobody could see it, and for those that do move, they will, in many cases, quarrel with their neighbour.
What really winds me up is their long term inability to learn how to say the name of their house and or village and the almost inevitable name change to something like “Two Hoots” or “Monk’s Rest” with absolutely no logic or link to the original house name or the area. Hugely frustrating.
Over the longer term this has eroded and diluted the ‘indigenous’ local ideas and politics and essentially allowed parties that would not have any traction in these areas now having a voice and this in turn means that the natural politics and parties of the areas are now diluted. The retired incomers ideas and politics for the area is not the same as what the locals typically would like and the division grows.
As I said, workers who move to contribute is typically a good thing. Older people, whether we like it or not become a burden on the Local Authorities and NHS in those areas and their politics isn’t good for growth.
I know this won’t be a popular or even an opinion many could even empathise with. It is something that I have been involved in looking at in some detail as part of local plan’s and through personal interest. The view really is different from the perspective of the existing locals.
We live in a global economy and whilst I respect local traditions and 'indigenous' ideas, I question how these communities would survive without migration of populations (both ways). I suspect migration would only occur out of these rural populations without the migration inwards. A downward spiral.
If the name of a house is really the crux to the argument - I think the point has been missed.
I am fully anticipating my kids leaving their birth county on the Isle of Wight and will encourage them to do so, if they wish.
I would say though that retirees typically do not contribute as much to an area economically as a family. Still, as you say, they're better in that regard than holiday home owners.
The NHS is centrally funded but not centrally controlled. If the disproportionate retiree population is utilising the health service, combined with a poor local population, then strain will be felt. This can lead to a view that the devolved health service is of poorer quality and the politics of the retiree surface.
As for migration outwards, the local school and university school leavers will see house prices rising, with few local jobs that match and will follow the coin. Would house prices rise as much without the retiree immigration? Probably not.
The house name issue isn't about the name of the house. It's about having a modicum of respect for the language and culture of the area you've moved to.
It's a thorny and emotive subject for myself, believing in a free market economically but also coming from rural West Wales.
The cost of care to the retirees shouldn't be overlooked - we're currently paying 20k a year for at home care for my mum. That's money that is going directly into the local economy funding local care workers. I guess what i'm saying is that even when the retired look like they're not spending any money, they often are.
I'm 40 at the moment, but when i retire I fully intend to move to somewhere other than where I am now (small village in Berkshire) - probably north wales. If the argument is that people shouldn't be permitted to move away from where they are 'from' then I don't think that's very equitable, as where people are from is an accident of birth.
I'm 40 at the moment, but when i retire I fully intend to move to somewhere other than where I am now (small village in Berkshire) - probably north wales. If the argument is that people shouldn't be permitted to move away from where they are 'from' then I don't think that's very equitable, as where people are from is an accident of birth.
roscopervis said:
monkfish1 said:
Assuming you are not welsh, how are you finding living there? Increasingly, im considering it.
I wonder what the locals at these places really think of people with retiring money moving there? This migration is terrible for the affordability of houses for the local people and most neighbour disputes are from incomers who either do things that don’t respect where they are or are upset when farmers do farming that doesn’t agree with their idea of a countryside idyll.If anyone can’t tell, I’m not a fan of this.
If you move to somewhere and try and make it where you came from, you cant be surprised if resentment develops. I moved next door to a church. But i dont complain about the church bells. I respect that its there before me, and that people use it, as they have done hundreds of years. Not everyone is ignorant.
Edited by monkfish1 on Friday 18th June 14:31
roscopervis said:
moorx said:
roscopervis said:
monkfish1 said:
Assuming you are not welsh, how are you finding living there? Increasingly, im considering it.
I wonder what the locals at these places really think of people with retiring money moving there? This migration is terrible for the affordability of houses for the local people and most neighbour disputes are from incomers who either do things that don’t respect where they are or are upset when farmers do farming that doesn’t agree with their idea of a countryside idyll.If anyone can’t tell, I’m not a fan of this.
We did not retire here; I am still working full time (as I said, for the local NHS) and my partner works on our property. We currently survive on my salary only. The property we bought is not your typical retirement property, or one which most locals would be interested in buying - it's an old farmhouse with two converted barns (holiday lets) and 10 acres of land. We bought it as a business venture.
As for being 'incomers' who don't respect the countryside - we are both from rural/semi rural areas, with knowledge of farming, and a love for the countryside, particularly Wales. Fortunately, the few neighbours we have don't regard us as 'incomers' and have been very welcoming.
I understand your point, but don't tar everyone with the same brush please.
Unfortunately in my line of work I hear and see the ideas and questions from many retirees wishing to move to a rural area who clearly have no idea or respect for where they are thinking of moving to, don’t like being told they can’t do things on land that they want to own, even if nobody could see it, and for those that do move, they will, in many cases, quarrel with their neighbour.
What really winds me up is their long term inability to learn how to say the name of their house and or village and the almost inevitable name change to something like “Two Hoots” or “Monk’s Rest” with absolutely no logic or link to the original house name or the area. Hugely frustrating.
Over the longer term this has eroded and diluted the ‘indigenous’ local ideas and politics and essentially allowed parties that would not have any traction in these areas now having a voice and this in turn means that the natural politics and parties of the areas are now diluted. The retired incomers ideas and politics for the area is not the same as what the locals typically would like and the division grows.
As I said, workers who move to contribute is typically a good thing. Older people, whether we like it or not become a burden on the Local Authorities and NHS in those areas and their politics isn’t good for growth.
I know this won’t be a popular or even an opinion many could even empathise with. It is something that I have been involved in looking at in some detail as part of local plan’s and through personal interest. The view really is different from the perspective of the existing locals.
moorx said:
monkfish1 said:
moorx said:
juice said:
Vasco said:
Somerset might be a good choice. I don't know enough about the whole county but parts may be too expensive.
It's a big county, but has pretty much something to offer everyone. Quantocks and mendips for scenery, decent-ish beaches (baring in mind they're estuary facing) and lots of lovely countryside. We're in the Chew Valley and absolutely love it here. Equidistant between Bristol, Bath and Wells (Bristol for work and Bath...well for everything else !).We have Wookey & Cheddar not far away and there's the lovely villages like Wedmore, Mells etc
It's a nice area of the world to put down roots...
We haven't had any issues settling in. OH can converse well with our main neighbour (farmer) as he worked for an agricultural suppliers/engineers previously. We don't have many close neighbours. Our local town is a really nice traditional market town, still with an active livestock market. Nice selection of independent shop and pubs. It was one of the things that convinced us to buy here. I work locally for the NHS. In my team, the English outnumber the Welsh, although most have lived here a significant length of time. Lots of English accents locally, too, and no sense of being 'outsiders'.
We are in Carmarthenshire, close (within a few miles) to the border with Pembrokeshire and Ceredigion. This makes it a great base for travelling to some really nice areas. I've recently rediscovered my love of mid-Wales too, which is somewhere we used to visit when I was a kid.
Learning a few words of Welsh - even if it's just how to say 'thank you' is very much appreciated in my experience.
We just couldn't have afforded a place like we have, in the setting we have, in many other locations. So all positive as far as I'm concerned.
monkfish1 said:
I moved next door to a church. But i dont complain about the church bells. I respect that its there before me, and that people use, as they have done hundreds of yours. Not everyone is ignorant.
Some are https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-574411...
phil_cardiff said:
You make some interesting and good points.
I would say though that retirees typically do not contribute as much to an area economically as a family. Still, as you say, they're better in that regard than holiday home owners.
The NHS is centrally funded but not centrally controlled. If the disproportionate retiree population is utilising the health service, combined with a poor local population, then strain will be felt. This can lead to a view that the devolved health service is of poorer quality and the politics of the retiree surface.
As for migration outwards, the local school and university school leavers will see house prices rising, with few local jobs that match and will follow the coin. Would house prices rise as much without the retiree immigration? Probably not.
The house name issue isn't about the name of the house. It's about having a modicum of respect for the language and culture of the area you've moved to.
It's a thorny and emotive subject for myself, believing in a free market economically but also coming from rural West Wales.
At the risk of repeating my earlier posts, this happens in most places. Would prices where i am in bucks have increased as much as they if so many people from London were not moving here? Probably not.I would say though that retirees typically do not contribute as much to an area economically as a family. Still, as you say, they're better in that regard than holiday home owners.
The NHS is centrally funded but not centrally controlled. If the disproportionate retiree population is utilising the health service, combined with a poor local population, then strain will be felt. This can lead to a view that the devolved health service is of poorer quality and the politics of the retiree surface.
As for migration outwards, the local school and university school leavers will see house prices rising, with few local jobs that match and will follow the coin. Would house prices rise as much without the retiree immigration? Probably not.
The house name issue isn't about the name of the house. It's about having a modicum of respect for the language and culture of the area you've moved to.
It's a thorny and emotive subject for myself, believing in a free market economically but also coming from rural West Wales.
Would i be looking to move to Wales if i had the cash to stay here? Well, i possibly still would, but my wife certainly wouldnt.
bristolracer said:
monkfish1 said:
I moved next door to a church. But i dont complain about the church bells. I respect that its there before me, and that people use, as they have done hundreds of yours. Not everyone is ignorant.
Some are https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-574411...
ts.monkfish1 said:
bristolracer said:
monkfish1 said:
I moved next door to a church. But i dont complain about the church bells. I respect that its there before me, and that people use, as they have done hundreds of yours. Not everyone is ignorant.
Some are https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-574411...
ts.ARHarh said:
monkfish1 said:
bristolracer said:
monkfish1 said:
I moved next door to a church. But i dont complain about the church bells. I respect that its there before me, and that people use, as they have done hundreds of yours. Not everyone is ignorant.
Some are https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-574411...
ts.As well as a church, im only 3 miles or so from silverstone. Sometimes they have motor racing. Occasionally i can hear it.
Good to know your incomers piped down.
Been here about 6 years At a parish ( about 60 dwellings in total) meeting 3 years ago we were all asked about our opinions on the local landowner plans on filling in the gaps in the village with shalf a dozen houses
A survey was done by the ( utterly incompetent as it turns out) planning consultant. It identified the need for local housing in the are to be around six houses surprisingly, and the survey included our village and the one a mile and a half west of us.
When I asked why this village was included, and not the village a mile and a half in the other direction, everyone looked at me as if I had suddenly grown a second head and one was swearing and blaspheming whilst the other vomited on their pet dog.
A survey was done by the ( utterly incompetent as it turns out) planning consultant. It identified the need for local housing in the are to be around six houses surprisingly, and the survey included our village and the one a mile and a half west of us.
When I asked why this village was included, and not the village a mile and a half in the other direction, everyone looked at me as if I had suddenly grown a second head and one was swearing and blaspheming whilst the other vomited on their pet dog.
ewanjp said:
The cost of care to the retirees shouldn't be overlooked - we're currently paying 20k a year for at home care for my mum. That's money that is going directly into the local economy funding local care workers. I guess what i'm saying is that even when the retired look like they're not spending any money, they often are.
I'm 40 at the moment, but when i retire I fully intend to move to somewhere other than where I am now (small village in Berkshire) - probably north wales. If the argument is that people shouldn't be permitted to move away from where they are 'from' then I don't think that's very equitable, as where people are from is an accident of birth.
I don't think care home jobs are the kind of work that'll lift a local economy out of the doldrums. Better than no jobs at all though. I'm 40 at the moment, but when i retire I fully intend to move to somewhere other than where I am now (small village in Berkshire) - probably north wales. If the argument is that people shouldn't be permitted to move away from where they are 'from' then I don't think that's very equitable, as where people are from is an accident of birth.
And I'm not blaming retirees for wider, more macroeconomic woes but I think it's right to acknowledge potential impacts.
monkfish1 said:
phil_cardiff said:
You make some interesting and good points.
I would say though that retirees typically do not contribute as much to an area economically as a family. Still, as you say, they're better in that regard than holiday home owners.
The NHS is centrally funded but not centrally controlled. If the disproportionate retiree population is utilising the health service, combined with a poor local population, then strain will be felt. This can lead to a view that the devolved health service is of poorer quality and the politics of the retiree surface.
As for migration outwards, the local school and university school leavers will see house prices rising, with few local jobs that match and will follow the coin. Would house prices rise as much without the retiree immigration? Probably not.
The house name issue isn't about the name of the house. It's about having a modicum of respect for the language and culture of the area you've moved to.
It's a thorny and emotive subject for myself, believing in a free market economically but also coming from rural West Wales.
At the risk of repeating my earlier posts, this happens in most places. Would prices where i am in bucks have increased as much as they if so many people from London were not moving here? Probably not.I would say though that retirees typically do not contribute as much to an area economically as a family. Still, as you say, they're better in that regard than holiday home owners.
The NHS is centrally funded but not centrally controlled. If the disproportionate retiree population is utilising the health service, combined with a poor local population, then strain will be felt. This can lead to a view that the devolved health service is of poorer quality and the politics of the retiree surface.
As for migration outwards, the local school and university school leavers will see house prices rising, with few local jobs that match and will follow the coin. Would house prices rise as much without the retiree immigration? Probably not.
The house name issue isn't about the name of the house. It's about having a modicum of respect for the language and culture of the area you've moved to.
It's a thorny and emotive subject for myself, believing in a free market economically but also coming from rural West Wales.
Would i be looking to move to Wales if i had the cash to stay here? Well, i possibly still would, but my wife certainly wouldnt.
roscopervis said:
My point was specifically about people retiring moving to such rural areas. I have no problem whatsoever with people who move to work and contribute to the areas to which they move, especially ones who understand and also contribute to the type of area it is.
Unfortunately in my line of work I hear and see the ideas and questions from many retirees wishing to move to a rural area who clearly have no idea or respect for where they are thinking of moving to, don’t like being told they can’t do things on land that they want to own, even if nobody could see it, and for those that do move, they will, in many cases, quarrel with their neighbour.
What really winds me up is their long term inability to learn how to say the name of their house and or village and the almost inevitable name change to something like “Two Hoots” or “Monk’s Rest” with absolutely no logic or link to the original house name or the area. Hugely frustrating.
Over the longer term this has eroded and diluted the ‘indigenous’ local ideas and politics and essentially allowed parties that would not have any traction in these areas now having a voice and this in turn means that the natural politics and parties of the areas are now diluted. The retired incomers ideas and politics for the area is not the same as what the locals typically would like and the division grows.
As I said, workers who move to contribute is typically a good thing. Older people, whether we like it or not become a burden on the Local Authorities and NHS in those areas and their politics isn’t good for growth.
I know this won’t be a popular or even an opinion many could even empathise with. It is something that I have been involved in looking at in some detail as part of local plan’s and through personal interest. The view really is different from the perspective of the existing locals.
Part of the reason of moving to a more rural area and having a bit of land around the house, is that you don't have some moaning tUnfortunately in my line of work I hear and see the ideas and questions from many retirees wishing to move to a rural area who clearly have no idea or respect for where they are thinking of moving to, don’t like being told they can’t do things on land that they want to own, even if nobody could see it, and for those that do move, they will, in many cases, quarrel with their neighbour.
What really winds me up is their long term inability to learn how to say the name of their house and or village and the almost inevitable name change to something like “Two Hoots” or “Monk’s Rest” with absolutely no logic or link to the original house name or the area. Hugely frustrating.
Over the longer term this has eroded and diluted the ‘indigenous’ local ideas and politics and essentially allowed parties that would not have any traction in these areas now having a voice and this in turn means that the natural politics and parties of the areas are now diluted. The retired incomers ideas and politics for the area is not the same as what the locals typically would like and the division grows.
As I said, workers who move to contribute is typically a good thing. Older people, whether we like it or not become a burden on the Local Authorities and NHS in those areas and their politics isn’t good for growth.
I know this won’t be a popular or even an opinion many could even empathise with. It is something that I have been involved in looking at in some detail as part of local plan’s and through personal interest. The view really is different from the perspective of the existing locals.
t leaning over your fence complaining.Ok, they might still lean over and complain, but the distance means you can't hear them
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