Obscene increases in building/construction materials prices
Discussion
sfella said:
Jambo85 said:
Given that the crude oil price is currently about 35p/Litre, I very much doubt anyone is paying anywhere near 20p/L for diesel of any colour in any quantity, but I’m open to being corrected!
As am I, in fact I truly hope it is bull. I hadn't asked, just when I mentioned pricing a large access road that couldn't be started for a few months he spoke about it. He was on about how many litres per day the loading shovels are burning and it was frightening numbers if true!joshcowin said:
Mr Whippy said:
Temporary surge in disposable, time on hands to do DIY, moving/upgrading, transitory high demand.
Temporary lack of supply, covid19 related restriction impacts.
This will all settle down. Supply will meet demand, but as both flap around they’ll struggle to meet up.
Indeed at some point I think supply will catch up and pass demand and we’ll see prices come down fast, on its way back to a steadier equilibrium.
For now I’m struggling most finding an electrician.
I can cope with material costs but just getting an electrician who’ll turn up (I’d diy and get sign off if I knew how to, and an electrician who’d turn up to do it) is my biggest issue.
Utility room sits half finished… nowt fancy but it’s a pain in the arse for the sake of a days work.
Where are you? Temporary lack of supply, covid19 related restriction impacts.
This will all settle down. Supply will meet demand, but as both flap around they’ll struggle to meet up.
Indeed at some point I think supply will catch up and pass demand and we’ll see prices come down fast, on its way back to a steadier equilibrium.
For now I’m struggling most finding an electrician.
I can cope with material costs but just getting an electrician who’ll turn up (I’d diy and get sign off if I knew how to, and an electrician who’d turn up to do it) is my biggest issue.
Utility room sits half finished… nowt fancy but it’s a pain in the arse for the sake of a days work.
I’ll admit I’ve not gone crazy ringing round… I’ve gone with four recommended people but not one will even commit to looking at the job in a decent time frame and quoting, and showing up when they’ve said they would.
Even if I can just sense check what they’d do so I can carry on with other jobs in the meantime.
I’d book several but that then seems rude if two or more actually turn up.
speedyguy said:
Unlikely with cementitious and other construction products as hidden taxes in the form of green bullcarp are being ramped up with all the carbon offsetting and as mentioned slightly further up massive increases in fuel duty for all the machinery, dozers, dumpers etc as the red fuel rebate is removed.
Prices are only going 1 way for the foreseeable unfortunately.
Yes, the climate levy increase is adding 6% to cement alone. Quarry direct aggregates going up 12% largely due to the move to white diesel.Prices are only going 1 way for the foreseeable unfortunately.
Unless the Govt cuts these taxes the prices won't fall.
dhutch said:
Broadly speaking, is it a bad thing for material costs to go up?
I'm currently in a renovation project with our house as well, but aside from the selfish reason of what wanting more for less.
Would be a bad thing if people where less wasteful and valued materials higher?
In the grand scheme so few people will care. The DIY/small builder will but the big firms you've basically got semi trained chimp labourers and they won't care how much the cement is a bag etc/ will be that expensive they'll just nick it.I'm currently in a renovation project with our house as well, but aside from the selfish reason of what wanting more for less.
Would be a bad thing if people where less wasteful and valued materials higher?
I however do agree, less waste would mean less pollution and be a generally better in every way
The cost gets pushed down the line.
True the lad loading the bags of cement may not care, however the people who decide whether or not to fund/push the button on the projects certainly do.
They will only do so if they can cover the increase in cost with the returns they make which means house prices/rents etc will go up.
True the lad loading the bags of cement may not care, however the people who decide whether or not to fund/push the button on the projects certainly do.
They will only do so if they can cover the increase in cost with the returns they make which means house prices/rents etc will go up.
Jambo85 said:
sfella said:
Speaking to stone supplier who's currently around £16-17/ton is talking about possibility of £80/ton as quarry moves from red to white. Whatever stone goes up by will see tarmac and other products go up by the same no doubt.
How can that possibly make sense!? Red diesel is half the cost of white pretty much, so even if diesel was his only cost (which it clearly isn’t) then he could maybe justify doubling the price. But 5x!?
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