Obscene increases in building/construction materials prices
Discussion
I’m currently working with a housing provider and their merchant partner, and getting weekly information notices from the merchant regarding what items are out of stock, seriously delayed, or increasing in price (again).
Timber is has gone silly. For my home, I ordered a full set of internal oak doors on the 15th of May, and they are apparently not arriving until 5th of August now. Previously they were an item that would be delivered from UK warehouse stock within days. Now I’m waiting nearly 3 months.
rufusgti said:
Digging up this thread to say after a meeting today we were told that a very well known building merchant chain are putting their timber prices up by 36% this Friday.
Yes 36%
I was already feeling the extra costs of building materials but this is really bad.
In late April, I was told by a friend who imports timber to expect another big rise in June or July, and here we are.Yes 36%
I was already feeling the extra costs of building materials but this is really bad.
Timber is has gone silly. For my home, I ordered a full set of internal oak doors on the 15th of May, and they are apparently not arriving until 5th of August now. Previously they were an item that would be delivered from UK warehouse stock within days. Now I’m waiting nearly 3 months.
TeaNoSugar said:
I’ve been reading this thread with interest as we’re in a position of having got a quote from a well-regarded local builder in March, for a start date of late September.
The quote was for £34k for a garage conversion and a small (9.5m2) extension - basically a small room/large porch. It was already expensive (in my opinion), but supply and demand of builders seems to be firmly in the builders favour for the past few years so that’s understandable.
He’s already emailed to warn about needing to re-price the material costs closer to the start date. What I wonder is, what the actual cost will be. £34k in March, but I’m guessing I’ll see very little change from £40k in September?
It depends what materials are being used for the construction, as some have gone up more than others, so without seeing the original materials costing breakdown, it is hard to say.The quote was for £34k for a garage conversion and a small (9.5m2) extension - basically a small room/large porch. It was already expensive (in my opinion), but supply and demand of builders seems to be firmly in the builders favour for the past few years so that’s understandable.
He’s already emailed to warn about needing to re-price the material costs closer to the start date. What I wonder is, what the actual cost will be. £34k in March, but I’m guessing I’ll see very little change from £40k in September?
A couple of guys I know are small builders, and they have advised customers that their quote is now labour only, and materials will be charged to the customer at cost price as and when they are purchased, as it is just too difficult to offer a fixed ‘labour and materials’ quote at the moment.
If you insist on a fixed price from a small builder which includes labour and materials, the chances are they will stick a chunky percentage onto the current materials prices, just to cover themselves if things keep going up.
I am betting that even when the supply gets back to normal these new prices will remain.
Even my local car wash have increased their prices by 30% to £13 from £10.
Local barber has increased the price of a haircut by 23% to £16 from £13
It seems like everybody has realised they can increase prices by 20%+ and it will make no difference to sales.
Even my local car wash have increased their prices by 30% to £13 from £10.
Local barber has increased the price of a haircut by 23% to £16 from £13
It seems like everybody has realised they can increase prices by 20%+ and it will make no difference to sales.
Drawweight said:
Still 7 quid here for a wash and spray wax.
Btw does the wax actually make any difference?
The spray wax is just basically a hydrophobic coating which displaces water off the car, stops the car looking streaky with dried water, and helps dirt run off the car in rain.Btw does the wax actually make any difference?
The cheap stuff that hand car washes use is only vaguely effective.
If you want something that is really good, adds quite a lot of gloss, and beads rain and dirt off like mad, then use something like Auto Finesse Aqua Coat. Just mist it all over the car after a wash, then hose off with a hosepipe.
I still wash our cars at home, which I think puts me in the minority these days. I just don't trust hand car washes, and have seen them cause loads of damage.
Sheepshanks said:
I wondered if things like the various natural disasters going on, especially in Germany, would have a noticeable impact?
Bonus,What a shame we don't have a British car manufacturer to fill the void.
It's frankly a national embarrassment the amount of German cars on our roads.
speedyguy said:
Bonus,
What a shame we don't have a British car manufacturer to fill the void.
It's frankly a national embarrassment the amount of German cars on our roads.
Most of our British cars were a national embarrassment.What a shame we don't have a British car manufacturer to fill the void.
It's frankly a national embarrassment the amount of German cars on our roads.
It is hardly surprising that people ended up buying German. I'm not saying German cars are still the best in the world now, but compared to most of the ste we were designing and badly building in the 70's, 80's, and 90's, German motors were in a different league.
ClaphamGT3 said:
zippy3x said:
A question for those in the trade (or just in the know) -
how are prices now compared to the summer?
and, where do we think prices are heading over the next 3 months?
We published our quarterly construction cost report on Monday, which is worth reading if this is a topic that interests you.how are prices now compared to the summer?
and, where do we think prices are heading over the next 3 months?
Whilst we are still seeing inflation in material prices, the largest inflationary pressure in construction costs in the last quarter has been energy costs.
PhilboSE said:
dalzo said:
PhilboSE said:
Where the heck is this?!
Marine grade ply 8’ x 4’ 18mm £127 where I am (SE). Even 9mm is £104.
Same size sheet of OSB3 is £40.
Glasgow, I should have clarified that the 18mm is just regular ply and not marine.Marine grade ply 8’ x 4’ 18mm £127 where I am (SE). Even 9mm is £104.
Same size sheet of OSB3 is £40.
£127 is outrageous , might have to fire the sheets I have in my store on eBay then retire
Structural softwood ply 18mm 8' x 4' £50.
External hardwood ply18mm 8' x 4' £94.
These are retail prices and trade will be somewhat lower, also there's lots of variability for different products from difference suppliers (one cheap for ply, expensive for OSB and the next vice versa), but it's all £££ now.
Mr Whippy said:
This will all settle down. Supply will meet demand, but as both flap around they’ll struggle to meet up.
Indeed at some point I think supply will catch up and pass demand and we’ll see prices come down fast, on its way back to a steadier equilibrium.
Unlikely with cementitious and other construction products as hidden taxes in the form of green bullcarp are being ramped up with all the carbon offsetting and as mentioned slightly further up massive increases in fuel duty for all the machinery, dozers, dumpers etc as the red fuel rebate is removed.Indeed at some point I think supply will catch up and pass demand and we’ll see prices come down fast, on its way back to a steadier equilibrium.
Prices are only going 1 way for the foreseeable unfortunately.
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