Site next door being developed, access to our wall?

Site next door being developed, access to our wall?

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Equus

16,916 posts

101 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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fesuvious said:
Quick Hijack,

Equus, do you cover or would you get involved with a B'ham project of @1acre?

Having doubts about current architect...
Potentially, yes, depending on what the project is and what issues you have.

We are fairly heavily committed at present, though. PM me if you wish.

blueg33

35,924 posts

224 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Small site bought by 3 local guys, doesn’t sound like it will be a slick full health and safety CCS type site.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

123 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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I work in this sector. For a start if it’s few private individuals developing, they won’t care one bit about a wall. Repairing it cuts into profits

Worse case scenario they could go bust. I’ve a rental where that happened adjacent: village setting, beautiful countryside and they failed to assess scale no cost of ground works. Thus the house now has a view of something akin to a quarry.

But knackered wall repairs to a developer are very low down the list I’m afraid

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

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12,979 posts

100 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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austinsmirk said:
I work in this sector. For a start if it’s few private individuals developing, they won’t care one bit about a wall. Repairing it cuts into profits

Worse case scenario they could go bust. I’ve a rental where that happened adjacent: village setting, beautiful countryside and they failed to assess scale no cost of ground works. Thus the house now has a view of something akin to a quarry.

But knackered wall repairs to a developer are very low down the list I’m afraid
In response to the highlighted. Whilst as a 'general' rule you may well be right, in this instance, as mentioned, we have Leylandii running the length of our garden, which will also be on the boundary of two neighbouring gardens. Accordingly I imagine they'd not want prospective buyers going in the garden to be faced with the sight of an expensive repair as soon as they moved in?

bearman68

4,658 posts

132 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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kingBadger said:
I hope it goes well for you though, difficult to not get stressed by these jobs. Also, just saying, but if you'd like to pop round with a bacon sarnie for me it would be much appreciated. Crispy-ish bacon but not overdone, buttered white bread and no crusts, ketchup. Oh and a cup of tea as well please. (-:
Oh for crying out loud you can't have butter on bacon sarnies. Everyone knows that.

Equus

16,916 posts

101 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
In response to the highlighted. Whilst as a 'general' rule you may well be right, in this instance, as mentioned, we have Leylandii running the length of our garden, which will also be on the boundary of two neighbouring gardens. Accordingly I imagine they'd not want prospective buyers going in the garden to be faced with the sight of an expensive repair as soon as they moved in?
The quick, cheap answer to which might be to erect a 2,0m high panel fence, a few inches inside the boundary wall.

WTF possessed you to plant Leylandii along the boundary? fking hateful things...

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

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12,979 posts

100 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Equus said:
The quick, cheap answer to which might be to erect a 2,0m high panel fence, a few inches inside the boundary wall.

WTF possessed you to plant Leylandii along the boundary? fking hateful things...
Were already planted when we bought the house, albeit a lot smaller.

Edited by Fermit and Sexy Sarah on Sunday 13th June 11:16

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

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12,979 posts

100 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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anonymous said:
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Is life really that dull for you? laugh

Griffith4ever

4,272 posts

35 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Living next to a sizeable modern development is hell on earth. It made me very stressed for a good 4 years a while back. Apart from the lorries idling at 5am outside your front door, every day, and the mess, and the dust, you'll be listening to petrol disc cutters slicing concrete for a very long time.

netherfield

2,682 posts

184 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
Well if you're ever passing give us a knock and I'll get the frying pan out. Just don't expect any of that red sugar sauce, bacon requires HP, you heathen laugh
HP you must be joking, you might just as well use a bottle of vinegar.

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

243 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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The Leylandii will eventually push the wall over.

When this happened near me the builders put up a fence about a foot away from the wall, they then grew shrubs and bushes against the fence.
Years later the fence has naturally rotted and come loose, but it can't fall over as it's in between bushes and wall.
Builders went into liquidation.

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

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12,979 posts

100 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Evoluzione said:
The Leylandii will eventually push the wall over.
That's something which TBH we hadn't considered. Maybe then we need to give some thought, which is more important to us, the wall, or the hedgerow. Having 3 dogs we need some sort of hard barrier.

RichFN2

3,375 posts

179 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Griffith4ever said:
Living next to a sizeable modern development is hell on earth. It made me very stressed for a good 4 years a while back. Apart from the lorries idling at 5am outside your front door, every day, and the mess, and the dust, you'll be listening to petrol disc cutters slicing concrete for a very long time.
5am is very early! But those dumper/ tipper lorries do start early and are the first on site by me, sometimes as early as 6:30am.

I'm used to it now after 7 years, and pre covid I was at work when most of the noise was happening anyway. I agree with the mess, it's mud in the winter and dust in the summer.

kingBadger

196 posts

163 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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bearman68 said:
kingBadger said:
I hope it goes well for you though, difficult to not get stressed by these jobs. Also, just saying, but if you'd like to pop round with a bacon sarnie for me it would be much appreciated. Crispy-ish bacon but not overdone, buttered white bread and no crusts, ketchup. Oh and a cup of tea as well please. (-:
Oh for crying out loud you can't have butter on bacon sarnies. Everyone knows that.
Look, I let it go when Fermit said brown sauce (which is clearly ONLY for sausages) but I cannot have my bacon sarnies without butter! (-:

GT03ROB

13,268 posts

221 months

Monday 14th June 2021
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Equus said:
The Case Officer also noted that the surface water drainage proposals were inadequate and stated that a Condition would be necessary to require submission of a scheme of surface water disposal, but then failed to impose any such condition, so it just looks like sloppy Planning work.
Thats all we need runoff into Fermits property then undermining the walls foundations anyway. At least he'll then have a water feature!

Equus

16,916 posts

101 months

Monday 14th June 2021
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GT03ROB said:
Equus said:
The Case Officer also noted that the surface water drainage proposals were inadequate and stated that a Condition would be necessary to require submission of a scheme of surface water disposal, but then failed to impose any such condition, so it just looks like sloppy Planning work.
Thats all we need runoff into Fermits property then undermining the walls foundations anyway. At least he'll then have a water feature!
The Leylandii will soak up most of it - they'll just grow faster.

smokeey

1,541 posts

172 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
OK, I'll skip offering any. I have always offered tradesmen working on any of my or our homes, feeling that a fed worker is a happy and therefore productive worker. I guess offering neighbouring workers the same is a step too far.

It is the first time that either of us have had a neighbouring development built, so yes, what to expect may come as a surprise. Credit us with some intelligence though that we understand it won't be 'one old boy leaning on his shovel while his lad does all the work'
Also remember, this is your day job, I'd hope you do know such processes inside out.
It couldn’t be further from my day job. I still thought you’d seem a bit of a lunatic wondering around a housing development offering bacon butties.

roscopervis

340 posts

147 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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The Party Wall Act etc. 1996 may very well be relevant here too. Please see the attached link:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...

Griffith4ever

4,272 posts

35 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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RichFN2 said:
5am is very early! But those dumper/ tipper lorries do start early and are the first on site by me, sometimes as early as 6:30am.

I'm used to it now after 7 years, and pre covid I was at work when most of the noise was happening anyway. I agree with the mess, it's mud in the winter and dust in the summer.
Yeah - they were not allowed to arrive early, but of course they did. And if it was cold, they'd run their engines, right outside my bedroom window. I nearly got into a fight throwing eggs at one lorry :-) Getting woken by diesel engines every single morning slowly drives you mad.

Skyedriver

17,868 posts

282 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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bennno said:
They’ll be queuing up for their morning craps next. I’d not be feeding next doors building development.
Caravan selling bacon butties, pies etc, your new enterprise begins here