Crows attacking my house!
Discussion
DonkeyApple said:
I've zero issue with shooting things but it's not an indiscriminate activity.
Not suggesting that everyone who shoots in the countryside does so indiscriminately. There are times when it becomes an unfortunate necessity. But there have often been times when pest control has gone well beyond necessity with the consequential shift in ecosystem balance, in turn giving rise to new pest problems that are dealt with by additional necessary killing. jagnet said:
DonkeyApple said:
I've zero issue with shooting things but it's not an indiscriminate activity.
Not suggesting that everyone who shoots in the countryside does so indiscriminately. There are times when it becomes an unfortunate necessity. But there have often been times when pest control has gone well beyond necessity with the consequential shift in ecosystem balance, in turn giving rise to new pest problems that are dealt with by additional necessary killing. For example, my property is situated where three large estates meet. One of them wants to make himself famous for offering 2000 bag days so has has been putting down vast numbers of birds. All that is going to lead to is an unnatural spike in predators that will plaque other's land and then when he ceases will starve, while the excessive number of birds create an elevated risk of disease which will hit neighbouring shoots.
I also have a fox den on our property. They don't bother me so I've no intention of removing them and they keep the rabbit numbers down. I've no issue if the farmer shot them but that's his job and decision. Likewise, when on a shoot that permits ground game I won't take that opportunity as they don't cause me an issue.
I'll kill mice as they nest in the barn and will damage the cars and I'll do a spot of pigeon shooting on friends' farms if offered but that's about it.
As a very keen rifle shot I've also paid to shoot deer in Scotland but once I had the stag in my sights I knew my shot would be instantly fatal but I made the decision not to squeeze the trigger. The day out and the experience made it all worth while and I'm happy for someone else to maintain the health and well-being of the herd.
TCruise said:
- Get a rifle, or a friend with a rifle.
- Shoot some of the crows.
- Leave the dead crows where they usually attack the window, or just generally around the property.
Keep killing the crows and leaving the dead birds in situ until the crows go away.
It usually does not take long.
As for those horrified by shooting crows.
You clearly don't know much about the countryside. All family I have in the countryside have guns. Usually a shotgun and a rifle.
The rifle is used to kill troublesome birds (usually magpies/crows), squirrels and rabbits.
There is not a shortage of crows in this country. At times, crows can also be damaging to endangered birds of prey.
FYI I'm a member of multiple animal charities. Animals can however become pests.
Sounds like you're a towny with a gun fetish and no clue about countryside management, wildlife or the law.- Shoot some of the crows.
- Leave the dead crows where they usually attack the window, or just generally around the property.
Keep killing the crows and leaving the dead birds in situ until the crows go away.
It usually does not take long.
As for those horrified by shooting crows.
You clearly don't know much about the countryside. All family I have in the countryside have guns. Usually a shotgun and a rifle.
The rifle is used to kill troublesome birds (usually magpies/crows), squirrels and rabbits.
There is not a shortage of crows in this country. At times, crows can also be damaging to endangered birds of prey.
FYI I'm a member of multiple animal charities. Animals can however become pests.
jagnet said:
Not suggesting that everyone who shoots in the countryside does so indiscriminately. There are times when it becomes an unfortunate necessity. But there have often been times when pest control has gone well beyond necessity with the consequential shift in ecosystem balance, in turn giving rise to new pest problems that are dealt with by additional necessary killing.
I remember finding an old (19th century) riverkeeper's manual in the basement store of the Freshwater Biological Association.The advice can be pretty much summed up as "if it isn't a salmon or a trout, kill it".
The advice on swans was that they eat the vegetation that the trout's food feeds on, so they should be shot. But even then they realised that some people might be unhappy about that, so it recommended luring them upstream with bread to where they could be dispatched discreetly.
otolith said:
I remember finding an old (19th century) riverkeeper's manual in the basement store of the Freshwater Biological Association.
Old reference books a great source for "what on earth were they thinking" moments. Worm castings causing issues on your bowling green:- a dose of arsenic will soon sort the issue. Would certainly have the potential to liven up bowls club night.
lawtoni said:
Guys, more drama at Lawtoni Towers
I have a bunch of ants nests in the lawn and they're also starting to come into the house.
I am okay to use ant poison on them, or should I use whale music to try to fend them off?
I'm pretty sure you can poison them if necessary, most shops sell the stuff. I think you can also get stuff that stops them entering the house, you sprinkle it across the threshold iirc. I have a bunch of ants nests in the lawn and they're also starting to come into the house.
I am okay to use ant poison on them, or should I use whale music to try to fend them off?
I'm not sure you're really cut out for life in the countryside, I'm looking forward to posts about being kept awake at night by cows mooing.
FourWheelDrift said:
lawtoni said:
What can I do?!
Poison? tried some rat poison mixed with bird seed on a couple of window ledges but to no avail.
Poison? tried some rat poison mixed with bird seed on a couple of window ledges but to no avail.
lawtoni said:
What can I do?!
About 4 months in jail and a £7000 fine, it's illegal to kill corvids in the UK. "Crows, jackdaws and rooks are protected under the Wildlife & Countryside Act 1981 and the Wildlife (Northern Ireland) Order 1985."https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11570...
https://community.rspb.org.uk/ourwork/b/east/posts...
king Packham tt.
Boosted LS1 said:
^ He's definately not a tt. Somebody has to speak out about wildlife issues as there are to many tts killing all and sundry.
but all he cares about is no one killing a single birdt. Somebody has to speak out about wildlife issues as there are to many tts killing all and sundry.couldn't give a s
t about anything elsehe's happy for Herring Gulls to cause chaos, attack kids on holiday as long as not a single feather is harmed.
He goes too far.
I mean, not being able to shoot a pigeon to eat, what next, Mallards and Pheasants ?
I'm not for wholesale slaughter, or poisoning of flocks, but bloody hell, what he wants is too much.
I have crows nesting in the tree, a family of magpies in the hedge, swifts in the eaves and a wren nesting in the exhaust pipe from the top bathroom. I was a member of the YOC and RSPB and last month when the baby crow got blown out of its nest just as it was about to fledge, I managed to make a place for it to hide with a bit of food, encouraged it to stop battering itself against the wall and calm down, then watched as it managed to get onto the fence and fly away. I keep part of the grasses uncut for seeds and put food out, but I still disagree with Pakhams stance on protection
Edited by Gary C on Friday 25th June 13:30
Not really sure what CP has to do with two deranged saddos poisoning a load of animals for fun. Nothing.
Nor do I see the relevance of CP re the stance of the RSPB as his views are at odds with theirs.
Is the link crows? Some nutter nailed a dead crow to his gate and we are discussing crows.
CP is just a chap whose dislike of a minority group outweighs his love of birds so he gets a bit confused at times and holds some extreme views but I'm not seeing anything in particular being his fault?
DonkeyApple said:
Not really sure what CP has to do with two deranged saddos poisoning a load of animals for fun. Nothing.
Nor do I see the relevance of CP re the stance of the RSPB as his views are at odds with theirs.
Is the link crows? Some nutter nailed a dead crow to his gate and we are discussing crows.
CP is just a chap whose dislike of a minority group outweighs his love of birds so he gets a bit confused at times and holds some extreme views but I'm not seeing anything in particular being his fault?
It was the posting of the general licence link and the inability to even shoot a troublesome corvid (unless you meet the crops or public health exceptions). Packham lead the successful campaign to have them removed from the list.Nor do I see the relevance of CP re the stance of the RSPB as his views are at odds with theirs.
Is the link crows? Some nutter nailed a dead crow to his gate and we are discussing crows.
CP is just a chap whose dislike of a minority group outweighs his love of birds so he gets a bit confused at times and holds some extreme views but I'm not seeing anything in particular being his fault?
The RSPB relevance was only to my position re bird protection
On monday (bin day) we had 25 crows in the road and 5 magpies. Now one of the neighbours should have secured the rubbish better and I'm not advocating shooting them because of the mess but the rate of increase in corvids in our area is immense. I imagine the local farmers would have been controlling them previously.
and of course it means that the OP cant shoot them now.
Edited by Gary C on Friday 25th June 13:39
Edited by Gary C on Friday 25th June 13:39
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