Talk me into or out of this house please

Talk me into or out of this house please

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okgo

38,038 posts

198 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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ThatGuyWhoDoesStuff said:
If it sells now without a kitchen, how does that work?
It's a shell. I'm surprised they haven't referenced planning for something else to be built already approved on the plot tbh.

RichFN2

3,372 posts

179 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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I think it depends if this a project your hoping to eventually sell on at £900k+ or if you intend to keep and are happy to put up with its looks.

If it's a keeper then new kitchen, bathroom, staircase, carpets etc and fresh paint and your good to go. The huge flat roof would bother me though.

If the plan is to sell it on at some point then I think this would be a huge project to make it a serious contender for anyone looking at similar properties. Most will want a separate utility room and the bedrooms will probably need to be bigger, so an extension for upstairs and the flat roof would have to go. Picture 4 is crying out for much more natural light to be let in, large bifold doors and bigger windows would transform that side.
If you have the budget to do this then the outcome could be one hell of a house!


anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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The window budget must have been tight when it was built!

Mr Pointy

11,223 posts

159 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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covmutley said:
I like it! I love the way it sits in its plot, although outside needs completely landscaping to better connect the house and garden and create livable outside spaces.

I will chuck some guesstiamte figures out there, just for fun! :

Kitchen £20k, plus 5k to reconfigure kitchen/dining
2 bathrooms £10k
doors and windows £15k (nothing fancy)
stairs £10k
heating system £10k
electrics £7k
decorating and odds and sods £10k
landscaping £20k

Total: £107k. Fairly standard stuff. Start adding bi-folds, fancy bathrooms and kitchens and obviously it can double, or quadruple!
No chance - those numbers are way out unless you are a builder & all the labour is free.

TheJimi

24,993 posts

243 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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okgo said:
TheJimi said:
next to a depot?

"next to"?

Why are you exaggerating?

Also, you don't see the irony of you slating the f*ck out the place when, £1m quid in the city you live in gets you the square root of sod all?



Edited by TheJimi on Tuesday 22 June 13:29
If you ever want to sell it then doing things like adding 5k kitchens isn't going to work at this level, hence its going to eat a lot of cash to do it justice, which is fine. And there's always a market for people who love this style of property, not me, but as proved, lots do.

It is pretty close to a depot, which may or may not get bigger, I dare say the Decathlon hanger is a recent addition, I wouldn't want to be able to see any of that.

No I don't see the irony in that, presumably he wants to live near Northampton because he is a cobbler or needs to get somewhere where there's work, like London, or maybe Birmingham. Living 20 mins from London costs money, not rocket science that one. And FWIW my house actually isn't much smaller than that one and wasn't much more than the number you've quoted. So there's always that myth busted.
You said "next to" and I suggested that for whatever reason, you were exaggerating. That point still stands. The property is not "next to" a depot.

As for £1m not getting you much in London, it's not a myth at all, although I do concede that it's area dependant.

Living 20mins from London costing money, and that concept not being rocket science; care to point out where I denied or questioned that?



okgo

38,038 posts

198 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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TheJimi said:
You said "next to" and I suggested that for whatever reason, you were exaggerating. That point still stands. The property is not "next to" a depot.

As for £1m not getting you much in London, it's not a myth at all, although I do concede that it's area dependant.

As for living 20mins from London costing money, and that concept not being rocket science; care to point out where I denied or questioned that?
It is the nearest thing to it in that direction. It's 425m from the outer wall of a vast warehouse, I'd want to know who owns that paddock at the back, sharpish...

You asked if I saw the irony, I don't see the irony. Stuff costs what it costs for a reason.



TheJimi

24,993 posts

243 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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okgo said:
TheJimi said:
You said "next to" and I suggested that for whatever reason, you were exaggerating. That point still stands. The property is not "next to" a depot.

As for £1m not getting you much in London, it's not a myth at all, although I do concede that it's area dependant.

As for living 20mins from London costing money, and that concept not being rocket science; care to point out where I denied or questioned that?
It is the nearest thing to it in that direction. It's 425m from the outer wall of a vast warehouse, I'd want to know who owns that paddock at the back, sharpish...

You asked if I saw the irony, I don't see the irony. Stuff costs what it costs for a reason.

and again, did I deny that stuff costs what it costs for a reason? You keep repeating that but doing so isn't going to change the fact that I haven't made any denial of that point.

I find your vociferous slating of this location ironic, given where you live. You don't see the irony, so we'll agree to disagree.

okgo

38,038 posts

198 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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TheJimi said:
and again, did I deny that stuff costs what it costs for a reason? You keep repeating that but doing so isn't going to change the fact that I haven't made any denial of that point.

I find your vociferous slating of this location ironic, given where you live. You don't see the irony, so we'll agree to disagree.
Maybe best stick to brightly coloured trainers I think, Jimi.

1m quid to be in a nice village outside of a town, great. Same situation when you can see your ocado order being loaded onto the van? Less great.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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ThatGuyWhoDoesStuff said:


The window budget must have been tight when it was built!
House doesn’t look too sure of itself, if it could talk it would probably ask to be knocked down.

TheJimi

24,993 posts

243 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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okgo said:
TheJimi said:
and again, did I deny that stuff costs what it costs for a reason? You keep repeating that but doing so isn't going to change the fact that I haven't made any denial of that point.

I find your vociferous slating of this location ironic, given where you live. You don't see the irony, so we'll agree to disagree.
Maybe best stick to brightly coloured trainers I think, Jimi.

1m quid to be in a nice village outside of a town, great. Same situation when you can see your ocado order being loaded onto the van? Less great.
What relevance does my taste in trainers have in terms of the discussion at hand?

Do try, just for once, not to be an abrasive dick.




Edited by TheJimi on Tuesday 22 June 15:22

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

5,158 posts

55 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Simple observation. It's a million quid done - as a minimum. What will a million quid buy you in that area.

Or it's a long term project that you drip feed money into over a good few years.

Having done the latter, I'd probably be looking at the former hehe

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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It's a nice plot, one side of the house looks nice and the rooms are a good size. The upstairs 'conservatory' is rather fun.

Against that the other side of the house is fugly and I don't see how it could easily be improved.

I guess it comes down to how much you'd need to change to get it how you like it. Internally I'd make the hall bigger at the expense of the study.

okgo

38,038 posts

198 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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TheJimi said:
What relevance does my taste in trainers have in terms of the discussion at hand?

Do try, just for once, not to be an abrasive dick.

Edited by TheJimi on Tuesday 22 June 15:22
rofl Go away.

MOBB

3,610 posts

127 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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I really like that era of house (when modernised) - but as others have said that's going to be £1m all in if its done up nicely, and I'm not sure that plot and location justifies that level.

I bought a £400k 60's house 2/3 of the size of that, with 1/4 acre and I have already spent £50k on it, with a further £50k budgeted, and we don't have super expensive taste!

Our value increase should just about cover the spend, but it is our forever home.................


BigBen

Original Poster:

11,641 posts

230 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Mr Pointy said:
covmutley said:
I like it! I love the way it sits in its plot, although outside needs completely landscaping to better connect the house and garden and create livable outside spaces.

I will chuck some guesstiamte figures out there, just for fun! :

Kitchen £20k, plus 5k to reconfigure kitchen/dining
2 bathrooms £10k
doors and windows £15k (nothing fancy)
stairs £10k
heating system £10k
electrics £7k
decorating and odds and sods £10k
landscaping £20k

Total: £107k. Fairly standard stuff. Start adding bi-folds, fancy bathrooms and kitchens and obviously it can double, or quadruple!
No chance - those numbers are way out unless you are a builder & all the labour is free.
My own numbers were more:

- some tins of paint and brushes £500
- 3 bay garage with room above £50k

Ben

RC1807

12,532 posts

168 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Mr Pointy said:
covmutley said:
I like it! I love the way it sits in its plot, although outside needs completely landscaping to better connect the house and garden and create livable outside spaces.

I will chuck some guesstiamte figures out there, just for fun! :

Kitchen £20k, plus 5k to reconfigure kitchen/dining
2 bathrooms £10k
doors and windows £15k (nothing fancy)
stairs £10k
heating system £10k
electrics £7k
decorating and odds and sods £10k
landscaping £20k

Total: £107k. Fairly standard stuff. Start adding bi-folds, fancy bathrooms and kitchens and obviously it can double, or quadruple!
No chance - those numbers are way out unless you are a builder & all the labour is free.
Nothing mentioned for the exterior looks .... that can double that estimate with doors / windows / render / panelling, etc. smile

covmutley

3,028 posts

190 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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RC1807 said:
Nothing mentioned for the exterior looks .... that can double that estimate with doors / windows / render / panelling, etc. smile
Yes, but it doesnt need it. Nothing wrong with brick. But I do agree the elevation with the small rectangular windows looks pretty horrible.


Pit Pony

8,565 posts

121 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Mr Pointy said:
No chance - those numbers are way out unless you are a builder & all the labour is free.
We are paying someone to do 3 metre x 2 foot kitchen. In all I'm looking at £22k with all appliances, a wall being removed, rewiring of fuse box, new ceiling in dinning room.through to kitchen.
The appliances come to £6k alone.

They start in a week..

greygoose

8,261 posts

195 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Pit Pony said:
We are paying someone to do 3 metre x 2 foot kitchen. In all I'm looking at £22k with all appliances, a wall being removed, rewiring of fuse box, new ceiling in dinning room.through to kitchen.
The appliances come to £6k alone.

They start in a week..
A two foot wide kitchen is pretty small, do you live on a submarine?

BigBen

Original Poster:

11,641 posts

230 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Going to view on Sunday to see what it is like in the metal......