Talk me into or out of this house please

Talk me into or out of this house please

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C Lee Farquar

4,068 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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BigBen said:
My own numbers were more:

- some tins of paint and brushes £500
- 3 bay garage with room above £50k

Ben
Quite, just live in it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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RC1807 said:
Nothing mentioned for the exterior looks .... that can double that estimate with doors / windows / render / panelling, etc. smile
Just get a giant paper bag to put over the house and another to put over your head so nobody knows where you live.

Mr Pointy

11,225 posts

159 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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BigBen said:
Going to view on Sunday to see what it is like in the metal......
I think they key issue is who owns the field next to it & what are the chances of it not being developed in your time of ownership.

PurpleTurtle

6,990 posts

144 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Mr Pointy said:
BigBen said:
Going to view on Sunday to see what it is like in the metal......
I think they key issue is who owns the field next to it & what are the chances of it not being developed in your time of ownership.
This would be entirely my concern.

I love the retro 70s vibe to the place, it could be a really lovely family home for a not unreasonable relative spend.

BUT .. that Decathlon Distribution Centre is very new, and clearly an extension of the Brackmills Industrial Estate pushing eastwards. Unless there is a copper bottomed covenant on that land behind you never being able to be developed on I would be looking elsewhere.

It's a shame, because I dare say the residents are probably not disturbed by it at the moment, but it's a huge 'what if' that is completely out of your control.

Japveesix

4,480 posts

168 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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I like it, chuck £500k at it and I think you could make a nice property.

£100k on landscaping and planting
£50-70k on kitchen
£150k for a luxury 5 car garage and man cave above with bathroom etc
£80k for two new bathrooms
£50k New laid driveway and turning circle and patios
£60k skylights and new windows doors etc all round
£70k on a new conservatory/summer room
£20k for a couple of wired in sheds/outhouses
£50k on LEGO for the LEGO room
£5k on a sex pond
£20k on a ride on and other pointless garden machinery

BigBen

Original Poster:

11,641 posts

230 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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anonymous said:
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There must be a restriction. What you can't see from the picture is the houses to the West are up a massive hill from the industrial estate so really not noticeable. The house I wanted to buy in the first place (mortgage / survey problems now beaten to it) is one of them. Despite being closer much less of a concern.

Ben

GT911

6,576 posts

172 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Mr Pointy said:
BigBen said:
Going to view on Sunday to see what it is like in the metal......
I think they key issue is who owns the field next to it & what are the chances of it not being developed in your time of ownership.
A study of the Local Development Plan would give some insight.

Admittedly, is not easy though trying to navigate around half a dozen interlinked documents of several hundred pages each, all with random reference numbers, annexed references, and trying to work out if any of it has been superseded or not.

Anyway...

This document shows two sites nearby that are being considered for residential developments, the Great Houghton Prep School to the north, for 240 homes (LAA1024, page 59) and the Green to the south for 840 homes (LAA1098, page 60).

https://www.northampton.gov.uk/download/downloads/...

The fields that surround the house would physically link these two sites, the ones to the south over the old railway line are identified as not being considered for development (for now anyway...), see LAA0787, page 172. It's possible the remaining field directly next to the house already appears somewhere else as allocated for development. Or maybe the owner isn't yet ready to consider development, but might be at some point.

OP, it's worth doing your own digging if this amount and proximity of development would concern you.

Extracts from the document I linked appear in a February 2021 news article in NorthantsLive, so maybe the seller got wind of that and decided it was time to upsticks.

It's always a good question to ask yourself why the house is for sale.


fourstardan

4,282 posts

144 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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GT911 said:
A study of the Local Development Plan would give some insight.

Admittedly, is not easy though trying to navigate around half a dozen interlinked documents of several hundred pages each, all with random reference numbers, annexed references, and trying to work out if any of it has been superseded or not.

Anyway...

This document shows two sites nearby that are being considered for residential developments, the Great Houghton Prep School to the north, for 240 homes (LAA1024, page 59) and the Green to the south for 840 homes (LAA1098, page 60).

https://www.northampton.gov.uk/download/downloads/...

The fields that surround the house would physically link these two sites, the ones to the south over the old railway line are identified as not being considered for development (for now anyway...), see LAA0787, page 172. It's possible the remaining field directly next to the house already appears somewhere else as allocated for development. Or maybe the owner isn't yet ready to consider development, but might be at some point.

OP, it's worth doing your own digging if this amount and proximity of development would concern you.

Extracts from the document I linked appear in a February 2021 news article in NorthantsLive, so maybe the seller got wind of that and decided it was time to upsticks.

It's always a good question to ask yourself why the house is for sale.
Doesn't local planning get shown on a survey?

BigBen

Original Poster:

11,641 posts

230 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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GT911 said:
A study of the Local Development Plan would give some insight.

Admittedly, is not easy though trying to navigate around half a dozen interlinked documents of several hundred pages each, all with random reference numbers, annexed references, and trying to work out if any of it has been superseded or not.

Anyway...

This document shows two sites nearby that are being considered for residential developments, the Great Houghton Prep School to the north, for 240 homes (LAA1024, page 59) and the Green to the south for 840 homes (LAA1098, page 60).

https://www.northampton.gov.uk/download/downloads/...

The fields that surround the house would physically link these two sites, the ones to the south over the old railway line are identified as not being considered for development (for now anyway...), see LAA0787, page 172. It's possible the remaining field directly next to the house already appears somewhere else as allocated for development. Or maybe the owner isn't yet ready to consider development, but might be at some point.

OP, it's worth doing your own digging if this amount and proximity of development would concern you.

Extracts from the document I linked appear in a February 2021 news article in NorthantsLive, so maybe the seller got wind of that and decided it was time to upsticks.

It's always a good question to ask yourself why the house is for sale.
Thank you that is really helpful. I would not be fussed about houses being built nearby, less delighted if a 30ft high warehouse appeared in the adjacent field.

Ben

GT911

6,576 posts

172 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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fourstardan said:
Doesn't local planning get shown on a survey?
What I was linking to is the Strategic Local Plan with sites identified for development.
There would need to be a subsequent planning application approved for each of those sites, submitted by or on behalf of the site owner/developer.
That’s when the proposal would go through the public consultation wringer.
If it makes it through that or a subsequent appeal, only then will it be approved planning by my reckoning.
Legal searches would show up specific planning applications but whether or not a strategic intent hidden in a 300 page document shows up I don’t actually know, I doubt it though.

Pit Pony

8,577 posts

121 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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greygoose said:
Pit Pony said:
We are paying someone to do 3 metre x 2 foot kitchen. In all I'm looking at £22k with all appliances, a wall being removed, rewiring of fuse box, new ceiling in dinning room.through to kitchen.
The appliances come to £6k alone.

They start in a week..
A two foot wide kitchen is pretty small, do you live on a submarine?
I meant 3 x 2 metre kitchen.

You know what they say? Where there's a will there's a kitchen.

We are taking a breeze block cupboard down which once held the hot water tank and has been a kind of pantry
And removing a non structural wall to the dining room making it into a 3 x 5 metre room. But the kitchen is staying as 3 x 2 metres.

As of last night all the dinning furniture is in the lounge. All the kitchen cupboards are empty,, just need to.move the fridge and freezer temporarily to the lounge.

Off to son's wedding today (It's Saturday) and then I'm back to let the builder in on Monday so they can start.
Wife is hopefully fking off to her sisters caravan, and I'm living off meals I made and froze earlier cooked in the microwave.

drmike37

462 posts

56 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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What’s the footpath like? Teenagers ragging stolen scooters along it at all hours? Or just a nice place to go for a walk?
Like most, i wouldn’t want warehouses getting any closer.
The house could end up really lovely if you’ve e got the money and patience.

Mr_Megalomaniac

852 posts

66 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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As with others, I don't think there's a need to completely knock it down and start again. But consider remodelling. Plaster and paint the exterior, the interior, and get planning permission on the long flat bit for something different (extension perhaps). I personally think it is a bit overpriced but I don't know the area. Calculating from the last sale in 2007, it would only be a compound return of 3.087% per year, which isn't usurial.

The land itself is good,and I'm assuming living near the light industrial estate won't bother you:

BigBen

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11,641 posts

230 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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Thought I would update this after viewing yesterday.

The house looked much better in person than in the photos, however the pictures from the front were rather flattering about the amount of space available.

The garden was really nice but needed a lot of trees taking down to give it any sort of light. Room sizes were good and the heating system + double glazing were all relatively recent.

There is a large bund topped with trees between the house and the industrial estate so you really can't see it unless you are looking and the way the land goes the gap is fairly unlikely to be filled in.

However, despite quite liking it neither my partner or I are 100% sure about it, the agent already has an offer and the vendor wanted to decide today. I am not going to rush such an important decision so will wait for the next property.

Ben

dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Thanks for the update, get it bought...... ...put down the k-rend!!