Renovating an old farmhouse and living on the Pennines

Renovating an old farmhouse and living on the Pennines

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Evoluzione

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243 months

Saturday 4th December 2021
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Wacky Racer said:
Evoluzione said:

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Nice picture of Darwen tower there.

Great thread, fascinating. smile
Or Jubilee tower. Test out your Lancastrianness with the others as they're all from over that way where he lives, The Northern lights is at the base of Pendle hill.

netherfield

2,686 posts

184 months

Saturday 4th December 2021
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Are you anywhere near 'The Fishermans Retreat' ?

craigthecoupe

694 posts

204 months

Saturday 4th December 2021
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a very enjoyable thread, thanks for taking the time. equally interested in home weather stations. we live 600m asl between two mountain ranges in italy. My work is outdoors, so decent forecasting is useful, though the windy app (no joke) is very good most of the time. out here its either hilux or l200 for workhorses, jimny's, jeep renegades, dacia dusters, or panda 4x4s for domestic duties....

Gtom

1,611 posts

132 months

Saturday 4th December 2021
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111179...

Car version of a L200? Also 3.0 v6 because it’s not a diesel!

macp

4,059 posts

183 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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Absolutely brilliant thread OP. You should maybe think about writing a book in a similar style to 'driving over lemons'. An absolute favourite book of mine. Having read more than once basically its an English guy and his wife buying a remote farm in Spain. And slowly renovating it. Just some of your words & thoughts reminded of this book although not remotely in the same land mass as you. Anyway forgive my ramblings.

Car wise as I was washing mine today. I thought why not a 4x4 Fiat Panda. Mine is only 2wd drive but its so bloody good. The 4wd versions whether old or new are well respected and pretty tough. Unless you need something bigger I would seriously consider them and should easily fit your budget. Again just a thought.

Evoluzione

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10,345 posts

243 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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macp said:
Absolutely brilliant thread OP. You should maybe think about writing a book in a similar style to 'driving over lemons'. An absolute favourite book of mine. Having read more than once basically its an English guy and his wife buying a remote farm in Spain. And slowly renovating it. Just some of your words & thoughts reminded of this book although not remotely in the same land mass as you. Anyway forgive my ramblings.

Thanks, I joked to my OH the other day that I should put my scribblings to better use and write a book, but don't think i'm good enough or people would buy it. It came off the back of sitting here for a few hrs putting just one post together.
There was also a similar thing done by one of the long term owners of Tan Hill, that was a pleasant enough read.

Panda is too small and basic. As we age I think we want something a bit more spacious and barge like, I want something with a bit of heft and a large torquey diesel engine.
Jeep Cherokees are under the spotlight at the moment, there seems to be anything to suit any pocket and a massive amount and range to look at. I've still got to investigate the drivetrain on them though, have no idea what the system is, whether full time, part time 4wd, locking diffs etc.

Magooagain

9,994 posts

170 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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Be carefull of the older 2.7 lump on the Cherokee and the Merc ml as a lot of them had a bad habit of pushing out an injector or two.
It happened to my old ML after I sold it on.

RammyMP

6,784 posts

153 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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netherfield said:
Are you anywhere near 'The Fishermans Retreat' ?
I’m not far, we used to go regularly years ago. It was never cheap but you used to get a good portion! The steak pie was good and the mixed grill!

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Evoluzione said:
Thanks, I joked to my OH the other day that I should put my scribblings to better use and write a book, but don't think i'm good enough or people would buy it. It came off the back of sitting here for a few hrs putting just one post together.
There was also a similar thing done by one of the long term owners of Tan Hill, that was a pleasant enough read.

Panda is too small and basic. As we age I think we want something a bit more spacious and barge like, I want something with a bit of heft and a large torquey diesel engine.
Jeep Cherokees are under the spotlight at the moment, there seems to be anything to suit any pocket and a massive amount and range to look at. I've still got to investigate the drivetrain on them though, have no idea what the system is, whether full time, part time 4wd, locking diffs etc.
We just bought a jeep renegade, which I believe has much the same system. It's the fairly common sort of 2WD normally but diverting drive to 4WD if one end starts to slip. However it also has the ability to lock in 4WD mode. They also do "trailhawk" versions which are all automatics, but have a few more off-road toys like descent control and a much lower crawl ratio (I believe they kinda cheat and let the torque converter slip a bit more to get a lower gear? Guessing though). It is a bit hard to work out all the various drivetrain levels from their documentation though.

So we got ours (manual, diesel) because it's primarily for road use, but with 4WD for the snow, which we've already had rather a lot of in the north pennines. And I have to say, with winters on, it's handled everything really rather competently. They seem to be at the more off-road end of the crossover SUV market, while not being a full-on "real" off roader like a landy or pickup.

markiii

3,620 posts

194 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Vote here for an outback. Our legacy has coped fabulously with snow and ice on hills, the full time symettrical 4wd is great.

Add a bit more clearance on the outback and short of a full on snow drift not much will stop it

Really nice to drive as well

Evoluzione

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10,345 posts

243 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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The OH always wanted an open top Merc, but I think it'll be a while before she can have something so frivolous. I think she'll approve of the M Class as do I, It's the current favourite at the moment.
Maybe my approach to LSDs is a bit outdated. I don't think they're need much anymore, from what i'm learning grip is found using the ABS to hold a slipping wheel and send the power to the one with the most grip.

Some interesting weather forecast for today:



After the last lot of snow and ice 10 days ago I could have filled a whole post with various pics of wrecked cars and stone walls with impressive holes in them. There is still a quite heavily impacted Golf still parked up opposite where it hit, I don't know why it's been left for so long. We awoke to the vague sound of sirens nearby somewhere when we opened a window, the house is tucked away halfway down a hill so you just get the odd noise drifting in on the wind sometime. When I went out later on I found this:



No idea how they managed that, it's on a relatively easy straight stretch of road.

TheJimi

25,001 posts

243 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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This is one of my favourite threads on PH. Just wanted you to know that smile

Escort3500

11,914 posts

145 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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Is that your wall Evo? And if so, did the perpetrator own up and are they going to get it repaired? 😡

Evoluzione

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243 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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Thanks for the positive remarks, I'm still pondering over that book comment. My writing style is a bit sombre at the moment as it reflects my mood. It's mainly because I'm still attached to my old life and emptying the old workshop still, nearly there now though, then full steam ahead here and hopefully with some more humour. I'm just sat looking at my lathe sat on the trailer summoning some energy and courage to brave the weather and get it off. It's my fingers which suffer the worst by going cold, especially the one I damaged in a stupid little accident back in early Spring. The nerves have been damaged and it goes cold and grey quite easily. I need to find some gloves which are warm and waterproof I think.

No we don't own any land that goes to the road, ours is around us and down to the beck at the bottom of the hill.
It did cross my mind too as to if they got away with it, who pays for the damage etc.
That and the majority of moorland here is 'Estate land', it's owned by a local chap whose family have been here for a long time, possibly hundreds of years as I've seen mention of his ancestors in a history book. The old derelict farmhouse I pictured earlier is his.
Bannister is the name, they started up Boundary Mills and he still has a large controlling share. The land owned is vast, i've heard it starts at the Hebden Bridge area and goes North, but i'm not sure how far up or across.
Interestingly Roger Bannister was a relation too, he of the sub 4 minute mile.

LimaDelta

6,529 posts

218 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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Great thread. We are currently buying an old farmhouse right at the northern edge of the North Pennines AONB. Hopefully it won't be requiring much renovation though, but following the thread with interest.

We had an Outback a few years ago. Very good in the winter (tyres make all the difference), good AWD system and generally safe, spacious and reliable. A bit nannying with all the warnings and the eyesight system, and the powered tailgate started to play up after a few years but in terms of all weather and poor road suitability I would highly rate them.

wolf1

3,081 posts

250 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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I live in a similar setting to you OP over by Accrington way. I just bounce around in an old battered high mileage manual 06 Discovery, It's comfy will pull nigh on anything will drive over nearly anything and there's tons of room in the back for logs, straw, hay, dogs etc etc. (best mod you'll make to whatever you get is a set of bright led spots at the back wired into the reverse lights)

I commute daily into Mr Burnhams playground so for me any pickup etc is no good as it'll cost me an extra tenner a day to go into the clean air zone when it starts next year and my pockets won't reach to a euro 6 pickup as the house is sucking up any spare cash.

Escort3500

11,914 posts

145 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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Evoluzione said:
Thanks for the positive remarks, I'm still pondering over that book comment. My writing style is a bit sombre at the moment as it reflects my mood. It's mainly because I'm still attached to my old life and emptying the old workshop still, nearly there now though, then full steam ahead here and hopefully with some more humour. I'm just sat looking at my lathe sat on the trailer summoning some energy and courage to brave the weather and get it off. It's my fingers which suffer the worst by going cold, especially the one I damaged in a stupid little accident back in early Spring. The nerves have been damaged and it goes cold and grey quite easily. I need to find some gloves which are warm and waterproof I think.

No we don't own any land that goes to the road, ours is around us and down to the beck at the bottom of the hill.
It did cross my mind too as to if they got away with it, who pays for the damage etc.
That and the majority of moorland here is 'Estate land', it's owned by a local chap whose family have been here for a long time, possibly hundreds of years as I've seen mention of his ancestors in a history book. The old derelict farmhouse I pictured earlier is his.
Bannister is the name, they started up Boundary Mills and he still has a large controlling share. The land owned is vast, i've heard it starts at the Hebden Bridge area and goes North, but i'm not sure how far up or across.
Interestingly Roger Bannister was a relation too, he of the sub 4 minute mile.
Thanks. At least you don’t have to put up with the hassle of getting it repaired. Hopefully it will be however; I love the stone walling in this part of the world.

JeremyH5

1,585 posts

135 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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Escort3500 said:
Thanks. At least you don’t have to put up with the hassle of getting it repaired. Hopefully it will be however; I love the stone walling in this part of the world.
I imagine that the police were involved and they will know who the landowner is. When I reversed through 10m of dry stone wall in Derbyshire they rang the landowner while I was in the patrol car to a) check if there was any stock to worry about and b) to exchange contact details with me.

Evoluzione

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10,345 posts

243 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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Escort3500 said:
Evoluzione said:
Thanks for the positive remarks, I'm still pondering over that book comment. My writing style is a bit sombre at the moment as it reflects my mood. It's mainly because I'm still attached to my old life and emptying the old workshop still, nearly there now though, then full steam ahead here and hopefully with some more humour. I'm just sat looking at my lathe sat on the trailer summoning some energy and courage to brave the weather and get it off. It's my fingers which suffer the worst by going cold, especially the one I damaged in a stupid little accident back in early Spring. The nerves have been damaged and it goes cold and grey quite easily. I need to find some gloves which are warm and waterproof I think.

No we don't own any land that goes to the road, ours is around us and down to the beck at the bottom of the hill.
It did cross my mind too as to if they got away with it, who pays for the damage etc.
That and the majority of moorland here is 'Estate land', it's owned by a local chap whose family have been here for a long time, possibly hundreds of years as I've seen mention of his ancestors in a history book. The old derelict farmhouse I pictured earlier is his.
Bannister is the name, they started up Boundary Mills and he still has a large controlling share. The land owned is vast, i've heard it starts at the Hebden Bridge area and goes North, but i'm not sure how far up or across.
Interestingly Roger Bannister was a relation too, he of the sub 4 minute mile.
Thanks. At least you don’t have to put up with the hassle of getting it repaired. Hopefully it will be however; I love the stone walling in this part of the world.
Sadly a lot of it gets a couple of fence posts and some galv mesh put across it which is a shame. I do plan on doing a course on it one day as we have a lot of our own which needs attention.
In other stone wall banter, from around the Halifax area Northwards up to around Colne maybe there was a different way of creating a stone wall, it was known as Vaccary walling and consisted of large slabs stood upright next to one another like teeth or headstones. They're hundreds of years old and some still exist.


DB4DM

934 posts

123 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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For warm and waterproof gloves, I have a pair of Musto yachting cold weather helmsman gloves. Can also be worn with a woollen pair underneath for extra warmth. With them on, you can't do much fiddly stuff though. They have a velcro wrist band to help keep water out