Renovating an old farmhouse and living on the Pennines

Renovating an old farmhouse and living on the Pennines

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dhutch

14,390 posts

198 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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Evoluzione said:
Ah Metalbird gets everywhere! We had one from my brother in law last christmas.

dhutch

14,390 posts

198 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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jason61c said:
I tend to use a lime putty on internal stuff and for rendering/plastering. I've used NHL's on areas where there's 'bricks' involved.
Are you applying it yourself?

We have lime plaster throughout (1902 Edwardian house) mainly onto brick walls, but some lath stud walls, and would love to have the repaired in lime, but almost cant get anyone to look at the job, let alone do it, and a year into trying we are now looking at getting it done in Limelite Renovating plaster as thats as far as modern plasterers appear to willing to compromise.



silentbrown

8,850 posts

117 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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Evoluzione said:
They all take a lot of digging around to loosen them before it will lift them. Some broke off the side of this as I was clumsily digging it out, then as I got it to the surface it split in half revealing this:



What lovely markings. I'm no expert, but I think it's sedimentary rock which is why it splits like it does, it looks almost like a tree cut through. You can see why our water is iron rich and brown after it's permeated through that.
I'm no geologist, but maybe you've got these there:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liesegang_rings_(geo...


jason61c

5,978 posts

175 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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dhutch said:
jason61c said:
I tend to use a lime putty on internal stuff and for rendering/plastering. I've used NHL's on areas where there's 'bricks' involved.
Are you applying it yourself?

We have lime plaster throughout (1902 Edwardian house) mainly onto brick walls, but some lath stud walls, and would love to have the repaired in lime, but almost cant get anyone to look at the job, let alone do it, and a year into trying we are now looking at getting it done in Limelite Renovating plaster as thats as far as modern plasterers appear to willing to compromise.
I've done half of it. We've a good guy on at the minute, hes been here 6 weeks as i've had enough of working full time and then working full time on the house!!

dhutch

14,390 posts

198 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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jason61c said:
....We've a good guy on at the minute, hes been here 6 weeks ...!!
Takes a lot longer I guess? Which is the 'cost' in using lime.

Does he know anyone in the northwest! Merseyside/Chester area?

Evoluzione

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10,345 posts

244 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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dhutch said:
jason61c said:
....We've a good guy on at the minute, hes been here 6 weeks ...!!
Takes a lot longer I guess? Which is the 'cost' in using lime.

Does he know anyone in the northwest! Merseyside/Chester area?
http://rstagooden.com/

Jon @ JD Plastering, Stoke 07443 472452

And these: https://www.facebook.com/Sherrattplastering/

Ask these for a name: https://fibrehandshop.co.uk/


Edited by Evoluzione on Thursday 20th January 07:47

Evoluzione

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10,345 posts

244 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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silentbrown said:
Evoluzione said:
They all take a lot of digging around to loosen them before it will lift them. Some broke off the side of this as I was clumsily digging it out, then as I got it to the surface it split in half revealing this:



What lovely markings. I'm no expert, but I think it's sedimentary rock which is why it splits like it does, it looks almost like a tree cut through. You can see why our water is iron rich and brown after it's permeated through that.
I'm no geologist, but maybe you've got these there:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liesegang_rings_(geo...

Thanks for that, yes I'm pretty sure that's what they are. I wonder if it will fade away now it's exposed....

hidetheelephants

24,456 posts

194 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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If a slice could be taken and sealed with resin it would make a funky coffee table.

ST565NP

563 posts

83 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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hidetheelephants said:
If a slice could be taken and sealed with resin it would make a funky coffee table.
+1

jason61c

5,978 posts

175 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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dhutch said:
Takes a lot longer I guess? Which is the 'cost' in using lime.

Does he know anyone in the northwest! Merseyside/Chester area?
Basically every room, gets plastered 2-3 times, material cost isn't crazy, just takes longer for each room.

I'll ask him tomorrow, we're in the southwest though.

monkfish1

11,086 posts

225 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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hidetheelephants said:
If a slice could be taken and sealed with resin it would make a funky coffee table.
Exactly what i was going to suggest. The epoxy would really highlight the colours.

monkfish1

11,086 posts

225 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Out of interest, what sort of level above sea level are you?

Evoluzione

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10,345 posts

244 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Yes a table is not a bad idea, it would certainly make an interesting talking point and could be sited inside or out in the garden.
I was initially thinking we could use the other bit housed in the wall by the gate with the farm name chiselled into it perhaps.
It's not the strongest of stone though so handing it would be tricky.
What kind of legs or frame would you put it on though?

Evoluzione

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10,345 posts

244 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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monkfish1 said:
Out of interest, what sort of level above sea level are you?
We're at 327 m. (1073 ft).

Some Gump

12,701 posts

187 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Why a slice? Just face off the top and add legs. Epic rock table smile

Mark Benson

7,521 posts

270 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Evoluzione said:
Yes a table is not a bad idea, it would certainly make an interesting talking point and could be sited inside or out in the garden.
I was initially thinking we could use the other bit housed in the wall by the gate with the farm name chiselled into it perhaps.
It's not the strongest of stone though so handing it would be tricky.
What kind of legs or frame would you put it on though?
You could probably knock up a half decent frame in 1/2" box and secure through into the underside with tabs, then use threaded inserts and adjustable feet in the legs to level it off.

BTW, I haven't forgotten about the legal papers; wife is keen for a trip down to Howarth, probably in April when the weather is better and our daughter is away with school, once she finalises what she's doing I'll PM you about picking them up.

deadtom

2,557 posts

166 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Evoluzione said:
Yes a table is not a bad idea, it would certainly make an interesting talking point and could be sited inside or out in the garden.
I was initially thinking we could use the other bit housed in the wall by the gate with the farm name chiselled into it perhaps.
It's not the strongest of stone though so handing it would be tricky.
What kind of legs or frame would you put it on though?
I think it would look nice on either a wrought iron frame for an industrial look, or maybe a solid oak pedestal type thing with a dark wood stain for a more rustic look? Either way it would need a bit of skill to make, but you don't seem like a man to shy away from such a challenge...

CharlesdeGaulle

26,297 posts

181 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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deadtom said:
Evoluzione said:
Yes a table is not a bad idea, it would certainly make an interesting talking point and could be sited inside or out in the garden.
I was initially thinking we could use the other bit housed in the wall by the gate with the farm name chiselled into it perhaps.
It's not the strongest of stone though so handing it would be tricky.
What kind of legs or frame would you put it on though?
I think it would look nice on either a wrought iron frame for an industrial look, or maybe a solid oak pedestal type thing with a dark wood stain for a more rustic look? Either way it would need a bit of skill to make, but you don't seem like a man to shy away from such a challenge...
I think I'd be inclined to buy a cheap-ish strong outdoor table and simply put the rock slice on top. I suppose that does offer the challenge of slicing the boulder, but that could be fun!

Mark Benson

7,521 posts

270 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
I suppose that does offer the challenge of slicing the boulder, but that could be fun!
As it looks like a sedimentary rock, I suspect you could split it along the grain with a cold chisel (and a bit of patience) - try on a sample first though....

EDIT: Piece of cake smilehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmqzreTMe7I

Edited by Mark Benson on Thursday 20th January 15:09

Evoluzione

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10,345 posts

244 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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With the overnight temps we're having at the moment I could pour water into a split and let nature do it's thing hehe