Internal door rot repair

[wolfracesonic]

You absolutely do not need a router OP, a chippy house bashing does, you don’t, just a claw hammer, sharp chisel and a bit of patience which you’ll need anyway for recessing the latch and cleaning up the mortise.

[Mave]

anxious_ant said:

Cheers, might have a think to see if I should get a chippy in.

Regarding the comment about occupied house, I can wait until we move out (renting current place) and still quoted at £70-£100 per door. One door is £35 so for 5 doors I am looking at at least £550.

To me that’s considerable amount, especially if we are moving house next year. If I can limit my tool spend to under £150 I think it’s worth a punt.

I am struggling on the router. Makita cordless is nice but blew budget, and I will still need to buy a battery + charger.

If you get a 1/2" router (you can pick up cheap mains ones from £50), you can use it to trim the bottom off the door as well. You can even use the old door as a guide if you offset it and clamp it to the new one...

[anxious_ant]

wolfracesonic said:

You absolutely do not need a router OP, a chippy house bashing does, you don’t, just a claw hammer, sharp chisel and a bit of patience which you’ll need anyway for recessing the latch and cleaning up the mortise.

Yes, there are a few YT videos demonstrating chiselling techniques.
I've stumbled across jigs and routers from links watching those videos. Major advantage of a router for me is that you'd never get the depth wrong.
I suppose I can always practise on a spare piece of wood first

This is the lock to my toilet door which I am planning on reusing. The curved ends might be tad challenging.

[anxious_ant]

Mave said:

If you get a 1/2" router (you can pick up cheap mains ones from £50), you can use it to trim the bottom off the door as well. You can even use the old door as a guide if you offset it and clamp it to the new one...

Yes, I plan to use the old door as rough guide

Never though about using the router to trim the bottom, should be more accurate than a jigsaw depending on how much I need taking off.

Do you have any recommendation of said routers?

I've browsed Wickes, Screwfix and Amazon and so far this is what I am coming up with :

Amazon link 1/2

Amazon link 1/4

edit : fixed link

[KTMsm]

anxious_ant said:

Sorry for thread revival

I have found decent enough 4 panel internal MDF doors at around £35 from Wickes which closely matches what we have.
I've asked around for chippy for cost to hang 5 doors, and cheapest quote I got was £70 per door. I have about 5 doors to hang so this is a bit costly.

So I am thinking of trying to the doors myself. I have seen a few YouTube videos to learn about hanging doors.
Looks like I would need decent set of chisel, planer and correct diameter drill bits for the handle and locks. I am planning of using the original hinges and locks.

Can anyone offer any tips and advice or perhaps any other tools that might help?

£70 / door is ok for one door but he'll do 5 in probably 1/2 a day so you'd be better asking for a job price, and explain they are cheap doors (not veneered) I'd think you should be able to get them done easily for £200

However looking at the first pic I'd repair and repaint that - if you use oil based paint it shouldn't re occur

[Gtom]

KTMsm said:

anxious_ant said:

Sorry for thread revival

I have found decent enough 4 panel internal MDF doors at around £35 from Wickes which closely matches what we have.
I've asked around for chippy for cost to hang 5 doors, and cheapest quote I got was £70 per door. I have about 5 doors to hang so this is a bit costly.

So I am thinking of trying to the doors myself. I have seen a few YouTube videos to learn about hanging doors.
Looks like I would need decent set of chisel, planer and correct diameter drill bits for the handle and locks. I am planning of using the original hinges and locks.

Can anyone offer any tips and advice or perhaps any other tools that might help?

£70 / door is ok for one door but he'll do 5 in probably 1/2 a day so you'd be better asking for a job price, and explain they are cheap doors (not veneered) I'd think you should be able to get them done easily for £200

However looking at the first pic I'd repair and repaint that - if you use oil based paint it shouldn't re occur

5 doors at £40/door in half a day?! No chance!

[anxious_ant]

KTMsm said:

£70 / door is ok for one door but he'll do 5 in probably 1/2 a day so you'd be better asking for a job price, and explain they are cheap doors (not veneered) I'd think you should be able to get them done easily for £200

However looking at the first pic I'd repair and repaint that - if you use oil based paint it shouldn't re occur

I did consider repair job with wood filler, but as the MDF "burst" outwards I will have to sand it down and it will not look right, especially around the panels.
There are also similar damage around the bottom edge, hence why I believe changing the door would be the best option, especially a close match availabe for £35.

OFFTOPIC:
Trade prices seems to be on the rise now. I have also got a quote for a 7m x 3m conservatory and it is coming out at nearly £50k. Fair enough as materials are expensive, but most of that cost is for labour.

This is why I think it would be beneficial to start learning to do some DIY stuff

I was really crap at plumbing but after some practice have managed change taps and a blocked isolator valve (the nuts seized so it was really painful job, considering how tight the space was!)

[KTMsm]

Gtom said:

5 doors at £40/door in half a day?! No chance!

My chippie will do 10 in a day and charges me £150 a day

[neth27]

If I got offered £15 to hang a door, sorry I would laugh and walk out.

[KTMsm]

neth27 said:

If I got offered £15 to hang a door, sorry I would laugh and walk out.

As I said he charges me 150 a day and he can hang 10 doors in a day - he's cheap and fast that's why I use him

It's also why I said he should be able to get it done for £200 which allows for someone far slower and far more expensive

[LocoBlade]

anxious_ant said:

Major advantage of a router for me is that you'd never get the depth wrong.

Yep, you don't need a router but chiselling accurately to a consistent depth is a skill most of us DIY'ers probably don't do enough of to become particularly good or speedy at, so why not use a router to make life easier.

[Mave]

anxious_ant said:

Mave said:

If you get a 1/2" router (you can pick up cheap mains ones from £50), you can use it to trim the bottom off the door as well. You can even use the old door as a guide if you offset it and clamp it to the new one...

Yes, I plan to use the old door as rough guide

Never though about using the router to trim the bottom, should be more accurate than a jigsaw depending on how much I need taking off.

Do you have any recommendation of said routers?

I've browsed Wickes, Screwfix and Amazon and so far this is what I am coming up with :

Amazon link 1/2

Amazon link 1/4

edit : fixed link

If you're trimming the bottom of the door, go 1/2" then you can use a worktop cutting bit. That amazon one looks OK, B&q do one for about £50, mine is a Wicks branded one, cost about £60 IIRC

[Gtom]

KTMsm said:

Gtom said:

5 doors at £40/door in half a day?! No chance!

My chippie will do 10 in a day and charges me £150 a day

I would love to see his £15 doors.

Egg box is minimum £50, veneered is minimum £70.

Your ‘tradesman’ is everything that is wrong with the building trade at the minute.

I would love to see him swing 10 doors in a day like the one I fitted today.

Sorry to take it away from the OP.

[neth27]

Gtom said:

I would love to see his £15 doors.

Egg box is minimum £50, veneered is minimum £70.

Your ‘tradesman’ is everything that is wrong with the building trade at the minute.

I would love to see him swing 10 doors in a day like the one I fitted today.

Sorry to take it away from the OP.

I have to agree with you, 10 doors on a new build yes ok it’s pretty easy to do.
I have seen 10 doors hung in a day on housing association houses when they are occupied. The standard of fitting is absolutely shocking.
These are pics of 10 doors a day ??

Edited by neth27 on Friday 10th December 23:50

Edited by neth27 on Friday 10th December 23:51

[Flibble]

Fwiw I wouldn't use a jigsaw on a door, they don't cut straight. I do mine with a hand plane, and a track saw if it needs a bigger cut. I'm a bit wary of electric planes too as they're a bit aggressive.

[KTMsm]

Gtom said:

I would love to see his £15 doors.

Egg box is minimum £50, veneered is minimum £70.

Your ‘tradesman’ is everything that is wrong with the building trade at the minute.

I would love to see him swing 10 doors in a day like the one I fitted today.

Sorry to take it away from the OP.

You mean someone doing a good day's work for a reasonable amount of money

He hung the doors in my house, I've used him for 25 years

[milkround]

Op where are you based?

If you are anywhere local to cardiff I’ll pop around and give you a hand.

[J6542]

KTMsm said:

Gtom said:

I would love to see his £15 doors.

Egg box is minimum £50, veneered is minimum £70.

Your ‘tradesman’ is everything that is wrong with the building trade at the minute.

I would love to see him swing 10 doors in a day like the one I fitted today.

Sorry to take it away from the OP.

You mean someone doing a good day's work for a reasonable amount of money

He hung the doors in my house, I've used him for 25 years

Every job is different of course, in an older property it can sometimes take you a good half day to fit 1 door if everything is on the pi55.
Some people might have the doors in the room for you ready to go, others you will need to carry them in from a garage.
Often there is nowhere to work in an occupied house, so it’s a case of setting up outside, and taking the doors in and out to work on them. ( I always have labourer with me if fitting heavy doors upstairs, no point struggling and damaging the walls trying to get them upstairs)
Then you sometimes get lucky and everything is plumb and straight and the new doors fit with no trimming needed.
I think the fact the guy has known you for a long time and the job has been straight forward is why he has only changed you £150.

[Little Lofty]

Hanging doors is pretty easy if the frame is straight, level and plumb, and if the door doesn't need to be shaved to much to suit. It can take half an hour of half a day.

[agent006]

Pah, that's nothing, my chippy pays me a fiver a door and he's still grateful. Does four doors an hour on the 10th floor with no lift and having to work out of his van parked three roads away. Does it all by hand, no tools.