Real Estate nightmares (Vol 2)

[C70R]

dundarach said:

They look okay if that's your kind of thing.

Trouble is, any land without a fence around it, or any road without control on it, will be abused by all the wkers in the world.

So when young Callum or Connor and his fking horrible mates are playing football with their useless hard man wker of a dad on that piece of grass, you're fked!

Common land should be for sheep!

So yes, other than the obvious fking chav sports pitch in the middle - tip fking top!

Sounds like you speak from (bitter) personal experience. Something you'd like to share?

[DaveyBoyWonder]

Escort3500 said:

Chances are the pocket hankerchief-sized patches of grass to the frontages will be used for overspill parking and then get paved over, adding to the sterility of the hardsurfacing. And I’ll bet that in time some visitors will just park on the grassed central area

I bet they're dead nice houses inside. Agree with the above though - my brother lives on a new estate and people's front gardens are gradually getting paved over to house 2/3 cars so it now looks like a huge car park with houses around the edge. Seems like the residents are scared of gardens...

[Timberwolf]

Hoofy said:

What do you lot think of these new builds?

https://goo.gl/maps/qRRZV9Dj9coyJQL29

IMO the grass is fine as there's a few areas like that around the estate and it's all fairly low density, they're only really an issue when it's that '90s style development where one such patch of grass is the sole amenity shared by 300-odd flats and houses. Houses look OK too, they've not tried to do pastiche of a historical style. (Maybe if I was being really cynical some of the architectural details look a little bit like a small office building, but then I live on a 1930s estate so criticising popular architecture is a bit "glass houses and throwing stones while situated within" coming from me).

The biggest thing for me is the way they've done the entire pavement with a dropped kerb in almost the same surface as the road, the only thing missing is a flashing neon sign saying "works van parking here". That is inevitably going to be overspill, given the size of houses it's not unlikely many of them will have 18-25 year olds living with parents having their own car, before you even get to the inevitable household which continually acquires vehicles until there are no more communal spaces left in which to put them or the people who "don't like using our driveway because (insert reason here)". Parking provision around the estate looks relatively decent so it has a chance of holding off longer than most, but I wonder why they didn't put in a few more of those wooden fences to prevent the pavements becoming a dumping ground.

[EdmondDantes]

shambolic said:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/124400402
Ha ha ha.
50% of Scotland won’t be buying this !!

Woaaaaah!! They must have taken down their Red Hand Of Ulster flags!!

[Hoofy]

I thought it might start a discussion!

DaveyBoyWonder said:

I bet they're dead nice houses inside. Agree with the above though - my brother lives on a new estate and people's front gardens are gradually getting paved over to house 2/3 cars so it now looks like a huge car park with houses around the edge. Seems like the residents are scared of gardens...

More like they need somewhere to park their cars.

[Timberwolf]

At least with current estates they've accepted that households will have at least 2 cars, and they will want to park them within a few metres of their front door.

I have "fond" memories of navigating the 2000s-build estate one of my relatives used to live on; vehicles littered all over the place to the point it was genuinely difficult to get round some of the corners, then when you got round the back of the houses to the "official" parking area it was almost completely empty. And that wasn't even one where they'd sold houses without any parking in the hope of discouraging car ownership.

[Hoofy]

Timberwolf said:

then when you got round the back of the houses to the "official" parking area it was almost completely empty. And that wasn't even one where they'd sold houses without any parking in the hope of discouraging car ownership.

Is that just because it's more convenient to park outside the front of their house?

[Timberwolf]

Hoofy said:

Timberwolf said:

then when you got round the back of the houses to the "official" parking area it was almost completely empty. And that wasn't even one where they'd sold houses without any parking in the hope of discouraging car ownership.

Is that just because it's more convenient to park outside the front of their house?

Yes, exactly that - it's a 1-2 minute walk, which most people aren't going to bother with, especially if it's raining. What's weird is when it gets really bad you might spend just as long searching for a space and, if you're unlucky, have it be just as far from your front door. But then you're getting into the psychology of parking and commitment to sunk costs thereof which is a whole world of counterintuitive fun and games.

(A psychology presumably not envisaged by the people who came up with that planning regime, apparently having assumed that the additional distance would discourage car use for short journeys, rather than be rendered irrelevant by a far stronger desire to park outside one's front door)

[Jaska]

Ever thought to yourself 'oh I'd love to live in the only house in a street that's different, and looks like someone else's extension' then step riiiiiight up



https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/61818593...

[krisdelta]

Jaska said:

Ever thought to yourself 'oh I'd love to live in the only house in a street that's different, and looks like someone else's extension' then step riiiiiight up



https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/61818593...

That's pretty special - entire 1st floor restricted height, so upstairs is essentially less than a meter wide for a normal human being. Great find - awful purchase proposition.

[Escort3500]

And let’s make it even nicer with grey paintwork to the front

[DanL]

krisdelta said:

Jaska said:

Ever thought to yourself 'oh I'd love to live in the only house in a street that's different, and looks like someone else's extension' then step riiiiiight up



https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/61818593...

That's pretty special - entire 1st floor restricted height, so upstairs is essentially less than a meter wide for a normal human being. Great find - awful purchase proposition.

Last sold for £161k in June 2021 too. Is that before it was built, or are the owners expecting to have made £80k in a year?

Edit: answered my own question on street view - looks like it was built in 2016.

Edited by DanL on Friday 1st July 09:00

[PositronicRay]

DanL said:

krisdelta said:

Jaska said:

Ever thought to yourself 'oh I'd love to live in the only house in a street that's different, and looks like someone else's extension' then step riiiiiight up



https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/61818593...

That's pretty special - entire 1st floor restricted height, so upstairs is essentially less than a meter wide for a normal human being. Great find - awful purchase proposition.

Last sold for £161k in June 2021 too. Is that before it was built, or are the owners expecting to have made £80k in a year?

Edit: answered my own question on street view - looks like it was built in 2016.

Edited by DanL on Friday 1st July 09:00

I will admit to not knowing about the Cardiff property market, but if it's competing with flats and suchlike it'd be in with a shout. If I we're young and single it'd be on my radar.

[DanL]

PositronicRay said:

DanL said:

krisdelta said:

Jaska said:

Ever thought to yourself 'oh I'd love to live in the only house in a street that's different, and looks like someone else's extension' then step riiiiiight up



https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/61818593...

That's pretty special - entire 1st floor restricted height, so upstairs is essentially less than a meter wide for a normal human being. Great find - awful purchase proposition.

Last sold for £161k in June 2021 too. Is that before it was built, or are the owners expecting to have made £80k in a year?

Edit: answered my own question on street view - looks like it was built in 2016.

Edited by DanL on Friday 1st July 09:00

I will admit to not knowing about the Cardiff property market, but if it's competing with flats and suchlike it'd be in with a shout. If I we're young and single it'd be on my radar.

Can’t argue there - I felt the same, in that it looks like a reasonable alternative to a one bedroom flat. I’m just surprised at the (apparent) price increase!

[Jaska]

For 220k you could choose from the very best of the central 1 bedroom flats available in Cardiff. It's a pretty cheap city to buy a flat in as the supply of flats is insanely high.

This is almost a flat anyway though no parking, no garden, and only windows at the front, it's a flat with a squashed in roof conversion...

[bungz]

making my neck ache just looking at it

[Pit Pony]

Timberwolf said:

Hoofy said:

Timberwolf said:

then when you got round the back of the houses to the "official" parking area it was almost completely empty. And that wasn't even one where they'd sold houses without any parking in the hope of discouraging car ownership.

Is that just because it's more convenient to park outside the front of their house?

Yes, exactly that - it's a 1-2 minute walk, which most people aren't going to bother with, especially if it's raining. What's weird is when it gets really bad you might spend just as long searching for a space and, if you're unlucky, have it be just as far from your front door. But then you're getting into the psychology of parking and commitment to sunk costs thereof which is a whole world of counterintuitive fun and games.

(A psychology presumably not envisaged by the people who came up with that planning regime, apparently having assumed that the additional distance would discourage car use for short journeys, rather than be rendered irrelevant by a far stronger desire to park outside one's front door)

I used to own a house where the garages were in 2 blocks in a court yard behind the houses. I parked in the garage and my wife parked slightly to one side. But luckily moat people had one car, and parked in front of their own garage. There was a path to our back garden. In three years I never used the front door. Even the milk man delivered to the back door.

[Skyedriver]

R56Cooper said:

dundarach said:

They look okay if that's your kind of thing.

Trouble is, any land without a fence around it, or any road without control on it, will be abused by all the wkers in the world.

So when young Callum or Connor and his fking horrible mates are playing football with their useless hard man wker of a dad on that piece of grass, you're fked!

Common land should be for sheep!

So yes, other than the obvious fking chav sports pitch in the middle - tip fking top!

Was thinking the same, they look quite smart with neat patches of grass but fast forward a few months and it'll be an overgrown mess, dotted with works vans and leased M4s and Velars.

Probably correct unfortunately
Initial thought was yes, clean, tidy, slightly different design from the norm, suitable for one/two people with one/no car. Definitely no works vans etc. Like city living in a modern style but it probably aint gonna work long term. Will be interested to see it in 10 years time.

[-Ad-]

Hoofy said:

What do you lot think of these new builds?

https://goo.gl/maps/qRRZV9Dj9coyJQL29

If Squid Game made houses.

Garden will be 6m deep by 8m wide and looked down on by 6 other game participants. Might be able to swing a cat around if it's a kitten.

Right on that river, which I'm sure is gagging to gush all over the development after some persistent rain.

So, newish Cala, in a "Surrey Rar Rar" location..... In 2019 probably around £1m, now they'll be asking at least £1.4m, because "Reasons".

[DodgyGeezer]

where to start?

29 year lease
lumpy service charge
quite high ground-rent
decor


https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/121689533?u...