RE: Rare Fiat Panda 4x4 Sisley for sale

RE: Rare Fiat Panda 4x4 Sisley for sale

Thursday 16th December 2021

Rare Fiat Panda 4x4 Sisley for sale

Right-hand drive, four-wheel drive, brilliantly Italian... and not an Aventador



The original Fiat Panda is never far from anyone's mind at PH - we're cool like that - but was brought to the front and centre of everyone's attention recently thanks to M-Sport. You've all seen Pandamonium, right? By fusing together a box-arched Panda body with Fiesta R5 running gear, M-Sport has created one of the most outrageously exciting cars seen in a long time. From a Fiat Panda!

Sadly, however, most of the surviving examples are now like the Pandamonium donor car; if not in need of a Fiesta rally car stuffed under them, then certainly a bit of TLC. Numbers have plummeted in recent years, so any 4x4 survivors really ought to be cherished - cars like this one, in fact.

It's a Panda 4x4 Sisley, making it even rare than a standard car. Well, it's believed to be at least, the seller isn't 100 per cent sure. But it is a 4x4, meaning that famed Steyr Daimler Puch four-wheel drive system, the FIRE 999cc engine, and the sort of go-anywhere ability that forged a legend. It's hard to imagine the 21st century Panda 4x4 follow up had this one not garnered such a following; the four-wheel drive supermini must be a tiny niche.


But such was the impact of the 4x4. So much so, in fact, that the seller of this right-hand drive Sisley says almost 100 people have enquired already. So you might have to move fast with your £3k. And be prepared for a bit of work - the Panda is without an MOT, and might need a new fuel pump fitting. Doesn't look quite how the Panda 4x4 Sisley dream will have been sold in the late 1980s, either - but precious little does more than 30 years later.

Instead we should all clearly be looking at this as a relatively cheap and very interesting winter project. As the advert states, Europe is not short of Panda 4x4 specialists, another indication of just how popular these little cars are on the continent. Certainly sourcing bits shouldn't be too much of an ordeal, or at least not as arduous as it can be for classic cars. Sounds obvious, too, but it's a Fiat Panda - nothing is going to cost a fortune.

And think of the possibilities. The Sisley will be as welcome on a green lane as it will an Italian car meet, as capable in the city as it is off-road. Perhaps a Jimny might get even further still, but plenty have been surprised by just what the 4x4 is able to do. A reputation like the Panda's isn't earned merely on looking cool, after all - although that certainly does its reputation no harm now. Anyone that wants a fun winter project - especially as more time at home seems to be looming again - could surely spend many happy hours bringing the Sisley back to its best. It may not be a rally car by the end of it, but it will be a lovingly restored Panda 4x4. And that's very nearly as good.




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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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The seller sounds like he's not particularly keen on... selling things!

forzaminardi

2,290 posts

188 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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I like that. I loved Sisley shirts back in the day too. Good project car.

Bodo

12,375 posts

267 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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That's what's a Sisley looks like in new-ish https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...

Matt_T

398 posts

75 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Love that fact that it's probably worth more than the scabby ML towing it!

Nick Pappagiorgio

68 posts

34 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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100 people enquired already, but none have bought it? hmmm

forzaminardi

2,290 posts

188 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Nick Pappagiorgio said:
100 people enquired already, but none have bought it? hmmm
It's on ebay - that's how it works while the auction is live.

Bodo

12,375 posts

267 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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An internet classic


ChocolateFrog

25,464 posts

174 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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One in much better condition than that slipped through my fingers at £1100 a few years ago.

Nu57jez9639

798 posts

39 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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My mum R.I.P had 1 late 90s as a stop gap.waiting.to be.paid out after having her xr3i.written off a mate of mine who's a car dealer let her have it for a decent price ,10 years oldish but really low mileage 1 owner and had come from local fiat dealer in Wakefield,it probably had never been of Road it certainly didn't.in my mum's.ownership.lent.it a couple of times to go to work flying down m1 maxing out at 80ish remember fondly.

Tommo87

4,220 posts

114 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Years ago when I was a kid I remember the local radio station asking people with AWD cars to deliver food to cut off areas during a long period of snow.

The local Fiat dealer staff had two of these doing the rounds and got a mention, as they were not the expected Land Rover type vehicle, that the station was targeting.

RicksAlfas

13,408 posts

245 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Bodo said:
An internet classic

hehe
That will be some old biddy who "always go the hairdresser's at this time".

There's a chap near me with a Panda 4x4 with the tailgate stamped "Panda 4x4" in the style of a Toyota pickup.
Like this:


Always thought it was a cool addition.

Turbobanana

6,292 posts

202 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Have you ever been up Mount Vesuvius?

There's a path that leads from the top car park (where only the tour buses are allowed). It's steep, rocky, with big drop-offs and a loose surface all the way to the summit. It's quite a challenging walk.

Half way up you'll probably hear a car horn. Turn around and you'll see a Panda 4x4 merrily trundling up, driven by an old chap in his eighties. He gives lifts to those with mobility issues who are unable to make the climb.

The only other car that goes up is an old Jimny.

Johnners

35 posts

259 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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I sold these new back in the early 90's and can recall one arriving having passed through Fiat's then quality control to see that the Sisley canoe logo on the back seats had been put on upside down, as if capsized. Tells you all you need to know really! :-)

That said, in the Italian ski resorts these are everywhere, proper go anywhere machines

MatteAva

88 posts

77 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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RicksAlfas said:
There's a chap near me with a Panda 4x4 with the tailgate stamped "Panda 4x4" in the style of a Toyota pickup.
Like this:


Always thought it was a cool addition.
I think that was an addition on the facelifted Mk1 model from 2001

Agent57

1,662 posts

155 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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"I know that they sell for between £25 and £30,000 properly restored"

Would have cost about £5k new in 1986.

I like the spirit of these cars but would not pay over the odds for it.

Agent57

1,662 posts

155 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Edit - Apparently it was launched in UK in Jan 87 £5,475 special edition.

waynecyclist

8,837 posts

115 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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I remember Wheeler Dealers ruining one of these, I think it was a Sisley as well.

Baldchap

7,672 posts

93 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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I had a Panda 4*4 (non Sisley, but that was a trim level) on an E plate back in the 90s. I think I paid £400 for it with a new MOT. I got some Sisley bull bars for it from the scrap yard for £10!!!

It was pretty rubbish. I can't imagine 30 years making it £2600 (+ cost to pass MOT) better...

s m

23,242 posts

204 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Turbobanana said:
Have you ever been up Mount Vesuvius?

There's a path that leads from the top car park (where only the tour buses are allowed). It's steep, rocky, with big drop-offs and a loose surface all the way to the summit. It's quite a challenging walk.

Half way up you'll probably hear a car horn. Turn around and you'll see a Panda 4x4 merrily trundling up, driven by an old chap in his eighties. He gives lifts to those with mobility issues who are unable to make the climb.

The only other car that goes up is an old Jimny.
Haha! smile

I was going to say the same thing Turbo!
There were 3 or 4 of them in the car park at the bottom last time I walked up a couple of years back

Saw more there in 2 minutes than I think I’ve seen in this country in the last decade

chandrew

979 posts

210 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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The Panda 4x4 is THE car to have here in St. Moritz. There's a saying that if you're a millionaire you have a Ferrari or Bentley; if you're a billionaire you drive around town in a Giugiaro Panda. But it could also be their housekeeper, the electrician or a local teenager who gets one for their first car. It's totally classless.

Apparently the trend was set by Gianni Agnelli who used to keep one at his house here. There are certainly a lot of original, unrestored & mint ones that you see around town, especially in the winter. Many were probably bought by their owners in the 80s for the 2 or 3 weeks a year they spend here & will spend most of the year in air-conditioned underground garages. There's also quite a few restored ones, often with a twist. Young Swiss Ferrari / Bentley / Pagani dealer Ronnie Kessel has one that he's painted in Cresta colours and fitted with a quilted leather interior.

Agnelli's grandson Lapo Elkann's Garage Italia can make you an electric version; our village president has one with a wicker basket on the roof. I saw a lovely blue one on my walk to the office this morning with skis on the roof and a silver one parked outside art gallery Hauser & Wirth.

A good condition Panda here will cost about £10,000, possibly a bit more for a series 1. Agnelli's one sold at auction a couple of years ago for €37,000