Fencing Quote check
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Alltrack said:
It’s a property maintenance type person who’s done a bit of work for us before - including decking.
He’s usually quite reasonable (18 sqm of decking was £800 in June 2020) and the quality of his work is very good.
We’ve pushed it back until next year as the existing fence is still standing albeit not very straight.
A fencing contractor will beat this easily! Get some prices off your local guys, it’s a days work at best. Unless they’re digging through a 24” concrete slab, 3days is madness!!He’s usually quite reasonable (18 sqm of decking was £800 in June 2020) and the quality of his work is very good.
We’ve pushed it back until next year as the existing fence is still standing albeit not very straight.
Randy Winkman said:
fatboy b said:
Alltrack said:
Morning
I've been quoted £1900 for eleven lap fence panels with concrete posts and gravel boards.
The labour is £150 per man day for two people and estimated at 2-3 days.
This is in the West Midlands.
I was thinking more along £1200??
Avoid concrete posts. They’re crap. The panels will most probably flap in the breeze.I've been quoted £1900 for eleven lap fence panels with concrete posts and gravel boards.
The labour is £150 per man day for two people and estimated at 2-3 days.
This is in the West Midlands.
I was thinking more along £1200??
t!I paid £1150 for a 22m 6ft high fence.
That was for a vertical plank fence with 15mm gaps between each plank, 8ft posts set at 2m. Closed board doesn't last here, it just get's blown down as demonstrated when 9m of my neighbours closed board fence blew into my wifes car in the high winds last weekend. Nice bill for the damage repair to go along with the cost of a new fence.
That was for a vertical plank fence with 15mm gaps between each plank, 8ft posts set at 2m. Closed board doesn't last here, it just get's blown down as demonstrated when 9m of my neighbours closed board fence blew into my wifes car in the high winds last weekend. Nice bill for the damage repair to go along with the cost of a new fence.
Currently getting quotes at the minute for Fencing - north of the border in Scotland.
55m - think long and narrow rather than giant garden...
one quote is £6.8k
And the other is a little over £8k.
Also, neither of these quotes include the clearance of the area to make the garden fence ready.
So, materials gone up in the last couple of weeks, labour just more expensive here? (I can provide the Irn Bru and battered foods if required)
55m - think long and narrow rather than giant garden...
one quote is £6.8k
And the other is a little over £8k.
Also, neither of these quotes include the clearance of the area to make the garden fence ready.
So, materials gone up in the last couple of weeks, labour just more expensive here? (I can provide the Irn Bru and battered foods if required)
a bit more expensive but once in you have 25 years maintenance free zinc self healing .......and good for 125mph winds
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Jonny8v said:
Currently getting quotes at the minute for Fencing - north of the border in Scotland.
55m - think long and narrow rather than giant garden...
one quote is £6.8k
And the other is a little over £8k.
Also, neither of these quotes include the clearance of the area to make the garden fence ready.
So, materials gone up in the last couple of weeks, labour just more expensive here? (I can provide the Irn Bru and battered foods if required)
That is interesting. I am scoping out something similar to see if it is worth talking to a farmer to buy a little patch of his land and would like to know all the other costs.55m - think long and narrow rather than giant garden...
one quote is £6.8k
And the other is a little over £8k.
Also, neither of these quotes include the clearance of the area to make the garden fence ready.
So, materials gone up in the last couple of weeks, labour just more expensive here? (I can provide the Irn Bru and battered foods if required)
I would need approximately 60m of fence, I had in my mind it would be about £5k.
I have just checked this site;
https://www.garden-fence-panels.co.uk/fence-calcul...
It roughs out what you need in terms of material;
QTY 33 6ft x 5ft panels: £605
QTY 35 7ft9" concrete posts: £438
QTY 35 6" concrete rock face gravel board: £251
QTY 51 post mix £293
Delivery: £85
Total: £1674
I think the key is trying to get good people on a day rate. With an Auger and 2 people they have got to be able to get 10 posts in a day surely? Call it a weeks work for 2 people.
£250 a day for someone experienced
£150 for a labourer
£2000
Total £3674
I think the issue is that most companies want to (and need to) make money on the materials. At the moment it is convenient for trades to say material is through the roof etc.
Can you find two good people to work for a day rate for a week, if you can, its got to be the way to go surely. Even if it takes twice as long as my estimate you would be at £5674. Hire of an Auger for a week is probably less than £500.
Jon_Bmw said:
Jonny8v said:
Currently getting quotes at the minute for Fencing - north of the border in Scotland.
55m - think long and narrow rather than giant garden...
one quote is £6.8k
And the other is a little over £8k.
Also, neither of these quotes include the clearance of the area to make the garden fence ready.
So, materials gone up in the last couple of weeks, labour just more expensive here? (I can provide the Irn Bru and battered foods if required)
That is interesting. I am scoping out something similar to see if it is worth talking to a farmer to buy a little patch of his land and would like to know all the other costs.55m - think long and narrow rather than giant garden...
one quote is £6.8k
And the other is a little over £8k.
Also, neither of these quotes include the clearance of the area to make the garden fence ready.
So, materials gone up in the last couple of weeks, labour just more expensive here? (I can provide the Irn Bru and battered foods if required)
I would need approximately 60m of fence, I had in my mind it would be about £5k.
I have just checked this site;
https://www.garden-fence-panels.co.uk/fence-calcul...
It roughs out what you need in terms of material;
QTY 33 6ft x 5ft panels: £605
QTY 35 7ft9" concrete posts: £438
QTY 35 6" concrete rock face gravel board: £251
QTY 51 post mix £293
Delivery: £85
Total: £1674
I think the key is trying to get good people on a day rate. With an Auger and 2 people they have got to be able to get 10 posts in a day surely? Call it a weeks work for 2 people.
£250 a day for someone experienced
£150 for a labourer
£2000
Total £3674
I think the issue is that most companies want to (and need to) make money on the materials. At the moment it is convenient for trades to say material is through the roof etc.
Can you find two good people to work for a day rate for a week, if you can, its got to be the way to go surely. Even if it takes twice as long as my estimate you would be at £5674. Hire of an Auger for a week is probably less than £500.
had to laugh at you comment regarding convience for trades to say materials have gone up ..............seriously in some cases its a 50% increase !
in fact if you go into any Jewsons branch and walk up to the counter you will see this notice
speaking with many tradesmen , they are now quoting labour charges only with the client supplying the materials
Agree, my example is simplistic and probably best case. I have no fence there, the field is ploughed and no trees so it should auger ok.
Ref the material, I know it has gone up considerably, but do you think every tradesman is up front and only passing on the increases in costs, or adding a bit more on as a safety factor that won't get reimbursed?
On Jonnyv8s quotes of £6.8k and £8k, where is that all coming from? Even if you add another £500 onto my material costs for longer posts and 6ft high panels that's between £4.7k and £5.9k labour charge.
It didn't sound like it included clearing an old fence.
Like I said before, a fencing company add a margin onto their material costs as they have to order it, receive it, deliver it? Is this the bit they are adding on the big safety factor to cover them for potential material increases that might not come.
Like anything, if you are prepared to manage it yourself there should be savings, if you want a one-stop-shop and no hassle you can pay for it. Hopefully with two good trades people there is a limit to what needs managing when building a fence!
Ref the material, I know it has gone up considerably, but do you think every tradesman is up front and only passing on the increases in costs, or adding a bit more on as a safety factor that won't get reimbursed?
On Jonnyv8s quotes of £6.8k and £8k, where is that all coming from? Even if you add another £500 onto my material costs for longer posts and 6ft high panels that's between £4.7k and £5.9k labour charge.
It didn't sound like it included clearing an old fence. Like I said before, a fencing company add a margin onto their material costs as they have to order it, receive it, deliver it? Is this the bit they are adding on the big safety factor to cover them for potential material increases that might not come.
Like anything, if you are prepared to manage it yourself there should be savings, if you want a one-stop-shop and no hassle you can pay for it. Hopefully with two good trades people there is a limit to what needs managing when building a fence!
well we've just picked ourselves off the floor today after our quote. Need about 18 panels doing (storm and age), already have concrete posts (though will need another 5 or so plus gravel boards) and the old crap taken away. Just waiting on another couple to quote before making our minds up. Living in the SE plus rising raw material costs etc etc meant a rather wince inducing 1500ish 
Jonny8v said:
Currently getting quotes at the minute for Fencing - north of the border in Scotland.
55m - think long and narrow rather than giant garden...
one quote is £6.8k
And the other is a little over £8k.
Also, neither of these quotes include the clearance of the area to make the garden fence ready.
So, materials gone up in the last couple of weeks, labour just more expensive here? (I can provide the Irn Bru and battered foods if required)
I had 15m of fence come down a few weeks ago (wind and rotten posts).55m - think long and narrow rather than giant garden...
one quote is £6.8k
And the other is a little over £8k.
Also, neither of these quotes include the clearance of the area to make the garden fence ready.
So, materials gone up in the last couple of weeks, labour just more expensive here? (I can provide the Irn Bru and battered foods if required)
Garden is pretty crap anyway, so I’m going to demolish the rest of the fence and rebuild it myself.
Total clearance of the garden, removal of turf and digging out buried fence posts. I thought about hiring a mini digger myself, but due to time constraints and my personal tendency to injure myself in interesting ways, I found a local startup company who provided a mini digger, mini dumper *and* operator at £120 for a day, which covered the 10*5 area. Utter bargain.
DodgyGeezer said:
well we've just picked ourselves off the floor today after our quote. Need about 18 panels doing (storm and age), already have concrete posts (though will need another 5 or so plus gravel boards) and the old crap taken away. Just waiting on another couple to quote before making our minds up. Living in the SE plus rising raw material costs etc etc meant a rather wince inducing 1500ish
Well, given I recently paid £1584, to replace 9, 6ft panels and all original posts with the equivalent length of closeboard fencing with concrete posts and that was the cheapest with the best reviews, your quite seems very reasonable. So glad I did my fence a few weeks ago, what was there would have been decimated by the recent storm and lead times would have been horrendous.
Why does everybody want them crap panels? When I done 15 meters of fence in my garden last year, I went for 1800mmx100mm slats with a 15mm gap between them. 2400mm 100mmx100mm posts At 1500mm centres with at least 2 bags of postcrete per hole and I used 100mmx50mm for rails, cost about £600 for materials including a box of 50mm galvanised ringshanks. Fence has rock solid during storm Arwen and all the other amber and yellow warnings we have had lately.
Randy Winkman said:
Everyone but me seems to like concrete posts where I live. And on a windy day all you hear is the clonking of the fence panels in the posts.
I used to rave about wooden ones....but after a range of failures about 20 years ago and a realisation it would happen again with wooden uprights, we had concrete put in: it is really easy to wedge any flappy panels in with some spare offcutsWe had two old panels bite the dust last year, easy job for me to replace.
Had one beaten to submission by Eunice this week, & another looks a bit iffy - will replace those for about £100 total (tanelised decent panels).
We paint our panels dark green, and also paint the gravel boards and uprights - it kind of blends the garden in well (IMHO....others may disagree!), despite being a bit of faff every now & then to repaint...
DodgyGeezer said:
well we've just picked ourselves off the floor today after our quote. Need about 18 panels doing (storm and age), already have concrete posts (though will need another 5 or so plus gravel boards) and the old crap taken away. Just waiting on another couple to quote before making our minds up. Living in the SE plus rising raw material costs etc etc meant a rather wince inducing 1500ish
Christ snap there hands off , there is no way any company could make money on all that for £1,500
as example .............materials 18 fence panels =£900 @ £50 per panel
5x 8' concrete slotted £141 5x concrete boards =£78 ready mix concrete x 10 =£60 total materials £1,179
removal of 18 panels as a grab lorry / muck away =figure £300 thats a fair old weight .
presuming its a simple pull out old panels with concrete posts in situ and there is no setting of levels etc.
edit if its you supplying the concrete posts for workers to install .. then its a different ball game add 2 bags of post crete per post =£!2 and figure around 4 days labour
installing new 5 x concrete posts / boards allow 2 days labour 2 workers at £200 per day =£400
so materials / waste removal =£1,479
labour = £400
then add 20% profit for company total cost £2,250
if its full installation of 18 concrete posts / panels figure £3,700
Edited by DBSV8 on Sunday 20th February 17:56
DodgyGeezer said:
well we've just picked ourselves off the floor today after our quote. Need about 18 panels doing (storm and age), already have concrete posts (though will need another 5 or so plus gravel boards) and the old crap taken away. Just waiting on another couple to quote before making our minds up. Living in the SE plus rising raw material costs etc etc meant a rather wince inducing 1500ish
That is a bargain, would take them up on that asap.I do fencing jobs myself on a small scale.I find it’s easier with someone helping me but then this hits the profit margins so I’m having to rethink how it might work in future
Just quoted £470 for a small job which sounds a lot for what it is but then the materials alone is 250/ rubbish removal to factor in £20 / helper charges about £100 .I make at best £100 on a 5hr job and have to arrange everything .it seems though some companies make the profit on materials and either buy in bulk getting discount or make the panels themselves-sometimes not to the best standard or will cut corners .one company on YouTube i was recently watching had made there own panels which looked very flimsy and nothing like a quality closeboard panel .
Just quoted £470 for a small job which sounds a lot for what it is but then the materials alone is 250/ rubbish removal to factor in £20 / helper charges about £100 .I make at best £100 on a 5hr job and have to arrange everything .it seems though some companies make the profit on materials and either buy in bulk getting discount or make the panels themselves-sometimes not to the best standard or will cut corners .one company on YouTube i was recently watching had made there own panels which looked very flimsy and nothing like a quality closeboard panel .
DBSV8 said:
DodgyGeezer said:
well we've just picked ourselves off the floor today after our quote. Need about 18 panels doing (storm and age), already have concrete posts (though will need another 5 or so plus gravel boards) and the old crap taken away. Just waiting on another couple to quote before making our minds up. Living in the SE plus rising raw material costs etc etc meant a rather wince inducing 1500ish
Christ snap there hands off , there is no way any company could make money on all that for £1,500
as example .............materials 18 fence panels =£900 @ £50 per panel
5x 8' concrete slotted £141 5x concrete boards =£78 ready mix concrete x 10 =£60 total materials £1,179
removal of 18 panels as a grab lorry / muck away =figure £300 thats a fair old weight .
presuming its a simple pull out old panels with concrete posts in situ and there is no setting of levels etc.
edit if its you supplying the concrete posts for workers to install .. then its a different ball game add 2 bags of post crete per post =£!2 and figure around 4 days labour
installing new 5 x concrete posts / boards allow 2 days labour 2 workers at £200 per day =£400
so materials / waste removal =£1,479
labour = £400
then add 20% profit for company total cost £2,250
if its full installation of 18 concrete posts / panels figure £3,700
Edited by DBSV8 on Sunday 20th February 17:56
Slotting into existing posts, providing they’re sound - cost of panel, plus £20per panel, including levelling gravelboards to suit the panels..
On a side note, any fencer who is only turning out 4panels a day needs to be retiring! Even hard dig I’d expect 8bays a day.
MattCharlton91 said:
Quick maths, supply and fit 18 bays - I’d be at £2700, 2days work by myself, or a day and half a morning with a Labrador. If the removal of the old stuff is covered with ivy etc, add £150/200
Slotting into existing posts, providing they’re sound - cost of panel, plus £20per panel, including levelling gravelboards to suit the panels..
On a side note, any fencer who is only turning out 4panels a day needs to be retiring! Even hard dig I’d expect 8bays a day.
depends on lots of variables if its a one man band or VAT registered company either way at £1,500 thats a bargain Slotting into existing posts, providing they’re sound - cost of panel, plus £20per panel, including levelling gravelboards to suit the panels..
On a side note, any fencer who is only turning out 4panels a day needs to be retiring! Even hard dig I’d expect 8bays a day.
MattCharlton91 said:
DBSV8 said:
DodgyGeezer said:
well we've just picked ourselves off the floor today after our quote. Need about 18 panels doing (storm and age), already have concrete posts (though will need another 5 or so plus gravel boards) and the old crap taken away. Just waiting on another couple to quote before making our minds up. Living in the SE plus rising raw material costs etc etc meant a rather wince inducing 1500ish
Christ snap there hands off , there is no way any company could make money on all that for £1,500
as example .............materials 18 fence panels =£900 @ £50 per panel
5x 8' concrete slotted £141 5x concrete boards =£78 ready mix concrete x 10 =£60 total materials £1,179
removal of 18 panels as a grab lorry / muck away =figure £300 thats a fair old weight .
presuming its a simple pull out old panels with concrete posts in situ and there is no setting of levels etc.
edit if its you supplying the concrete posts for workers to install .. then its a different ball game add 2 bags of post crete per post =£!2 and figure around 4 days labour
installing new 5 x concrete posts / boards allow 2 days labour 2 workers at £200 per day =£400
so materials / waste removal =£1,479
labour = £400
then add 20% profit for company total cost £2,250
if its full installation of 18 concrete posts / panels figure £3,700
Edited by DBSV8 on Sunday 20th February 17:56
Slotting into existing posts, providing they’re sound - cost of panel, plus £20per panel, including levelling gravelboards to suit the panels..
On a side note, any fencer who is only turning out 4panels a day needs to be retiring! Even hard dig I’d expect 8bays a day.
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