Kitchens - cheap vs expensive
Discussion
Fitted a Howdens kitchen recently, for what it cost I thought it was complete rubbish. All the cabinets were supplied slightly off-square which caused problems setting all the door gaps. I'm pretty sure some of them are slightly different sizes, less than a mm here and there but impossible to get the cabinets to line up perfectly and a consistent door gap. Some of the doors are slightly warped too, just a little here and there, which has left some of the door faces slightly out and affected the shadow lines even when the door gaps are correct.
They insisted on a load of unecessary filler panels - I wasn't involved in the design process - these are all exposed edges and have the thinest covering, they won't last more than a couple of years of normal use before they look tatty. Impossible to replace without taking the whole kitchen to bits. Not sure why they couldn't have supplied these a small decorative piece to the front and spacer to the rear, I guess there's less money in that when it's something that was added on a significant expense when the customer is already committed.
Pelmet things are complete s
te, soft MDF, not straight and too short, so joining them with invisible joins is pretty much impossible and there's far more joins than should be necessary. Looked better without them because of the joins.
All the shelves are really low quality, so while the doors - fitment aside - look decent, as soon as you open one you're reminded that it's actually complete rubbish. Shelves are 20mm short, so you lose a little storage space everywhere.
And they supplied a complete 300 deep wall unit to go around a pipe box that is 250mm x 250mm, so you can imagine how well that all works now the cupboard has been cut to bits to accomodate. I did a really good job of that, but the chance of getting a normal kitchen fitter to do that right are pretty low.
This worked out at about 500 per unit once all the add-ons were included and one of those slim laminate worktops added. Not including my time to fit it. fking hell.
Also, never get badgered into fitting a kitchen for a relative. Never.
They insisted on a load of unecessary filler panels - I wasn't involved in the design process - these are all exposed edges and have the thinest covering, they won't last more than a couple of years of normal use before they look tatty. Impossible to replace without taking the whole kitchen to bits. Not sure why they couldn't have supplied these a small decorative piece to the front and spacer to the rear, I guess there's less money in that when it's something that was added on a significant expense when the customer is already committed.
Pelmet things are complete s
te, soft MDF, not straight and too short, so joining them with invisible joins is pretty much impossible and there's far more joins than should be necessary. Looked better without them because of the joins.All the shelves are really low quality, so while the doors - fitment aside - look decent, as soon as you open one you're reminded that it's actually complete rubbish. Shelves are 20mm short, so you lose a little storage space everywhere.
And they supplied a complete 300 deep wall unit to go around a pipe box that is 250mm x 250mm, so you can imagine how well that all works now the cupboard has been cut to bits to accomodate. I did a really good job of that, but the chance of getting a normal kitchen fitter to do that right are pretty low.
This worked out at about 500 per unit once all the add-ons were included and one of those slim laminate worktops added. Not including my time to fit it. f
king hell.Also, never get badgered into fitting a kitchen for a relative. Never.
Anyone had any experience with Uform kitchen cabinets?
https://www.uform.co.uk/doors/madison-light-oak-iv...
I'm currently awaiting on a price from a kitchen fiter who will be using them for a quote to refurb my kitchen, but would be good to hear of any experiences?
https://www.uform.co.uk/doors/madison-light-oak-iv...
I'm currently awaiting on a price from a kitchen fiter who will be using them for a quote to refurb my kitchen, but would be good to hear of any experiences?
paulrockliffe said:
Fitted a Howdens kitchen recently, for what it cost I thought it was complete rubbish. All the cabinets were supplied slightly off-square which caused problems setting all the door gaps. I'm pretty sure some of them are slightly different sizes, less than a mm here and there but impossible to get the cabinets to line up perfectly and a consistent door gap. Some of the doors are slightly warped too, just a little here and there, which has left some of the door faces slightly out and affected the shadow lines even when the door gaps are correct.
They insisted on a load of unecessary filler panels - I wasn't involved in the design process - these are all exposed edges and have the thinest covering, they won't last more than a couple of years of normal use before they look tatty. Impossible to replace without taking the whole kitchen to bits. Not sure why they couldn't have supplied these a small decorative piece to the front and spacer to the rear, I guess there's less money in that when it's something that was added on a significant expense when the customer is already committed.
Pelmet things are complete ste, soft MDF, not straight and too short, so joining them with invisible joins is pretty much impossible and there's far more joins than should be necessary. Looked better without them because of the joins.
All the shelves are really low quality, so while the doors - fitment aside - look decent, as soon as you open one you're reminded that it's actually complete rubbish. Shelves are 20mm short, so you lose a little storage space everywhere.
And they supplied a complete 300 deep wall unit to go around a pipe box that is 250mm x 250mm, so you can imagine how well that all works now the cupboard has been cut to bits to accomodate. I did a really good job of that, but the chance of getting a normal kitchen fitter to do that right are pretty low.
This worked out at about 500 per unit once all the add-ons were included and one of those slim laminate worktops added. Not including my time to fit it. fking hell.
Also, never get badgered into fitting a kitchen for a relative. Never.
I had one fitted in flat, largely because that was the kitchen the builder rated.They insisted on a load of unecessary filler panels - I wasn't involved in the design process - these are all exposed edges and have the thinest covering, they won't last more than a couple of years of normal use before they look tatty. Impossible to replace without taking the whole kitchen to bits. Not sure why they couldn't have supplied these a small decorative piece to the front and spacer to the rear, I guess there's less money in that when it's something that was added on a significant expense when the customer is already committed.
Pelmet things are complete s
te, soft MDF, not straight and too short, so joining them with invisible joins is pretty much impossible and there's far more joins than should be necessary. Looked better without them because of the joins.All the shelves are really low quality, so while the doors - fitment aside - look decent, as soon as you open one you're reminded that it's actually complete rubbish. Shelves are 20mm short, so you lose a little storage space everywhere.
And they supplied a complete 300 deep wall unit to go around a pipe box that is 250mm x 250mm, so you can imagine how well that all works now the cupboard has been cut to bits to accomodate. I did a really good job of that, but the chance of getting a normal kitchen fitter to do that right are pretty low.
This worked out at about 500 per unit once all the add-ons were included and one of those slim laminate worktops added. Not including my time to fit it. f
king hell.Also, never get badgered into fitting a kitchen for a relative. Never.
Agreed, poor quality, I'm pleased it wasn't my home.
PositronicRay said:
paulrockliffe said:
Fitted a Howdens kitchen recently, for what it cost I thought it was complete rubbish. All the cabinets were supplied slightly off-square which caused problems setting all the door gaps. I'm pretty sure some of them are slightly different sizes, less than a mm here and there but impossible to get the cabinets to line up perfectly and a consistent door gap. Some of the doors are slightly warped too, just a little here and there, which has left some of the door faces slightly out and affected the shadow lines even when the door gaps are correct.
They insisted on a load of unecessary filler panels - I wasn't involved in the design process - these are all exposed edges and have the thinest covering, they won't last more than a couple of years of normal use before they look tatty. Impossible to replace without taking the whole kitchen to bits. Not sure why they couldn't have supplied these a small decorative piece to the front and spacer to the rear, I guess there's less money in that when it's something that was added on a significant expense when the customer is already committed.
Pelmet things are complete ste, soft MDF, not straight and too short, so joining them with invisible joins is pretty much impossible and there's far more joins than should be necessary. Looked better without them because of the joins.
All the shelves are really low quality, so while the doors - fitment aside - look decent, as soon as you open one you're reminded that it's actually complete rubbish. Shelves are 20mm short, so you lose a little storage space everywhere.
And they supplied a complete 300 deep wall unit to go around a pipe box that is 250mm x 250mm, so you can imagine how well that all works now the cupboard has been cut to bits to accomodate. I did a really good job of that, but the chance of getting a normal kitchen fitter to do that right are pretty low.
This worked out at about 500 per unit once all the add-ons were included and one of those slim laminate worktops added. Not including my time to fit it. fking hell.
Also, never get badgered into fitting a kitchen for a relative. Never.
I had one fitted in flat, largely because that was the kitchen the builder rated.They insisted on a load of unecessary filler panels - I wasn't involved in the design process - these are all exposed edges and have the thinest covering, they won't last more than a couple of years of normal use before they look tatty. Impossible to replace without taking the whole kitchen to bits. Not sure why they couldn't have supplied these a small decorative piece to the front and spacer to the rear, I guess there's less money in that when it's something that was added on a significant expense when the customer is already committed.
Pelmet things are complete s
te, soft MDF, not straight and too short, so joining them with invisible joins is pretty much impossible and there's far more joins than should be necessary. Looked better without them because of the joins.All the shelves are really low quality, so while the doors - fitment aside - look decent, as soon as you open one you're reminded that it's actually complete rubbish. Shelves are 20mm short, so you lose a little storage space everywhere.
And they supplied a complete 300 deep wall unit to go around a pipe box that is 250mm x 250mm, so you can imagine how well that all works now the cupboard has been cut to bits to accomodate. I did a really good job of that, but the chance of getting a normal kitchen fitter to do that right are pretty low.
This worked out at about 500 per unit once all the add-ons were included and one of those slim laminate worktops added. Not including my time to fit it. f
king hell.Also, never get badgered into fitting a kitchen for a relative. Never.
Agreed, poor quality, I'm pleased it wasn't my home.
Road2Ruin said:
I am quite surprised, I have had three and they were all excellent. All of them fitted by a friend who is a kitchen fitter, so maybe that's the difference. Our old house the kitchen was 8 years old and the purchaser commented on how good the kitchen still looked. Never any issues with gaps or shelves.
Same - our Howdens kitchen was fitted mid-2022 and seems fine. I'm less thrilled about the kitchen fitter the builder chose, and his own joiners were quite critical too. But it's in and looks fine, and wife is thrilled with it. We also had an odd space - in our case around a nib wall- that the design simply put a blank door in front of but the joiners put a frame in and made some shelves and my wife thinks that bonus cupboard is brilliant.The decor panel stuff threw me as I built a previous kitchen from flat pack so you assembe with the decor panels as part of the carcass, and then our next one was custom built. Apparently (I guess you need to know this in advance) it's standard to split spacer decor panels vertically so you can use each one twice. Our layout is such that we only have one and it's on the side of a full height oven housing and I think it looks odd as the other side is against a wall and doesn't have one. But apparently I'm the only person who thinks it looks weird.
It also annoys the hell out of me that the quartz (which I organised) overhangs 5mm more on the island than on the main runs so the edge isn't consistently aligned with the handles. Again, if I mention this to people they roll their eyes. I console myself that people know it's wrong they just don't want to admit it.
Road2Ruin said:
PositronicRay said:
paulrockliffe said:
Fitted a Howdens kitchen recently, for what it cost I thought it was complete rubbish. All the cabinets were supplied slightly off-square which caused problems setting all the door gaps. I'm pretty sure some of them are slightly different sizes, less than a mm here and there but impossible to get the cabinets to line up perfectly and a consistent door gap. Some of the doors are slightly warped too, just a little here and there, which has left some of the door faces slightly out and affected the shadow lines even when the door gaps are correct.
They insisted on a load of unecessary filler panels - I wasn't involved in the design process - these are all exposed edges and have the thinest covering, they won't last more than a couple of years of normal use before they look tatty. Impossible to replace without taking the whole kitchen to bits. Not sure why they couldn't have supplied these a small decorative piece to the front and spacer to the rear, I guess there's less money in that when it's something that was added on a significant expense when the customer is already committed.
Pelmet things are complete ste, soft MDF, not straight and too short, so joining them with invisible joins is pretty much impossible and there's far more joins than should be necessary. Looked better without them because of the joins.
All the shelves are really low quality, so while the doors - fitment aside - look decent, as soon as you open one you're reminded that it's actually complete rubbish. Shelves are 20mm short, so you lose a little storage space everywhere.
And they supplied a complete 300 deep wall unit to go around a pipe box that is 250mm x 250mm, so you can imagine how well that all works now the cupboard has been cut to bits to accomodate. I did a really good job of that, but the chance of getting a normal kitchen fitter to do that right are pretty low.
This worked out at about 500 per unit once all the add-ons were included and one of those slim laminate worktops added. Not including my time to fit it. fking hell.
Also, never get badgered into fitting a kitchen for a relative. Never.
I had one fitted in flat, largely because that was the kitchen the builder rated.They insisted on a load of unecessary filler panels - I wasn't involved in the design process - these are all exposed edges and have the thinest covering, they won't last more than a couple of years of normal use before they look tatty. Impossible to replace without taking the whole kitchen to bits. Not sure why they couldn't have supplied these a small decorative piece to the front and spacer to the rear, I guess there's less money in that when it's something that was added on a significant expense when the customer is already committed.
Pelmet things are complete s
te, soft MDF, not straight and too short, so joining them with invisible joins is pretty much impossible and there's far more joins than should be necessary. Looked better without them because of the joins.All the shelves are really low quality, so while the doors - fitment aside - look decent, as soon as you open one you're reminded that it's actually complete rubbish. Shelves are 20mm short, so you lose a little storage space everywhere.
And they supplied a complete 300 deep wall unit to go around a pipe box that is 250mm x 250mm, so you can imagine how well that all works now the cupboard has been cut to bits to accomodate. I did a really good job of that, but the chance of getting a normal kitchen fitter to do that right are pretty low.
This worked out at about 500 per unit once all the add-ons were included and one of those slim laminate worktops added. Not including my time to fit it. f
king hell.Also, never get badgered into fitting a kitchen for a relative. Never.
Agreed, poor quality, I'm pleased it wasn't my home.
We are shortly having our kitchen replaced in a property that we have just oved in to.
We opted for the same supplier (Howdens) and same fitter as our last kitchen as we couldn't fault either. Did have to double check the prices as it was a little more than we expected but at just under 8k for the kitchen and utility room it's not too bad. This includes Induction Hob, fitted fridge/freezer and dishwasher.
Electrics come in at £1650 inc, to move a couple of sockets, add wiring for the relocated oven and work with the fitter on tis, fitting is £4500 inc plastering but I know his work is excellent. Flooring is £1000 to do 10 sq meters but we still need to decide on the tiles so that's just the fitting . Still unsure on the tile colour, we have a wet room and corridor to the garage that leads off the side of the utility room with black slate tiles but if we got the same to do the kitchen they may look a little dark in there.
We went for the blue and white theme so tempted with a white tile floor too. But may live to regret that.
Just had a quick 5 mins to mock this with a darker floor to see how it looks.
We opted for the same supplier (Howdens) and same fitter as our last kitchen as we couldn't fault either. Did have to double check the prices as it was a little more than we expected but at just under 8k for the kitchen and utility room it's not too bad. This includes Induction Hob, fitted fridge/freezer and dishwasher.
Electrics come in at £1650 inc, to move a couple of sockets, add wiring for the relocated oven and work with the fitter on tis, fitting is £4500 inc plastering but I know his work is excellent. Flooring is £1000 to do 10 sq meters but we still need to decide on the tiles so that's just the fitting . Still unsure on the tile colour, we have a wet room and corridor to the garage that leads off the side of the utility room with black slate tiles but if we got the same to do the kitchen they may look a little dark in there.
We went for the blue and white theme so tempted with a white tile floor too. But may live to regret that.
Just had a quick 5 mins to mock this with a darker floor to see how it looks.
Edited by CharlieDeltaTango on Wednesday 26th April 15:53
Is the scaling (near enough) correct?
It looks like the ovens are built into the wall, as if not, the oven housing needs to be a fair bit deeper which makes the positioning worse than it currently looks.
Allow about 600mm depth for oven housing and at least 1200mm in front of the oven to allow for standing in front of it to open the door and to bend to see inside.
It looks like the ovens are built into the wall, as if not, the oven housing needs to be a fair bit deeper which makes the positioning worse than it currently looks.
Allow about 600mm depth for oven housing and at least 1200mm in front of the oven to allow for standing in front of it to open the door and to bend to see inside.
Edited by number2 on Wednesday 26th April 16:12
MattS5 said:
Anyone had any experience with Uform kitchen cabinets?
https://www.uform.co.uk/doors/madison-light-oak-iv...
I'm currently awaiting on a price from a kitchen fiter who will be using them for a quote to refurb my kitchen, but would be good to hear of any experiences?
I own a kitchen company and we sometimes supply Uform doors, the quality seems good and the only reason we don't use them more often is that their ordering process is more difficult than our main supplier.https://www.uform.co.uk/doors/madison-light-oak-iv...
I'm currently awaiting on a price from a kitchen fiter who will be using them for a quote to refurb my kitchen, but would be good to hear of any experiences?
Wagonwheel555 said:
Got our Wren one fitted eventually.
Out of the 20 doors, around 10 of them were damaged and new ones being delivered today apparently. Other than that it seems fine.
That was really unusualOut of the 20 doors, around 10 of them were damaged and new ones being delivered today apparently. Other than that it seems fine.
I had more doors than that, zero were damaged
One was missing from delivery, they told me, also told me the day it would arrive, which it did
The kitchen has been in about a year now, no problems at all.
A friend had one fitted after our recommendation. Equally impressed.
Great quality & their customer service was second to none.
Great reviews too
I guess a few are very very unlucky & bear a grudge
paulrockliffe said:
Fitted a Howdens kitchen recently, for what it cost I thought it was complete rubbish. All the cabinets were supplied slightly off-square which caused problems setting all the door gaps. I'm pretty sure some of them are slightly different sizes, less than a mm here and there but impossible to get the cabinets to line up perfectly and a consistent door gap. Some of the doors are slightly warped too, just a little here and there, which has left some of the door faces slightly out and affected the shadow lines even when the door gaps are correct.
They insisted on a load of unecessary filler panels - I wasn't involved in the design process - these are all exposed edges and have the thinest covering, they won't last more than a couple of years of normal use before they look tatty. Impossible to replace without taking the whole kitchen to bits. Not sure why they couldn't have supplied these a small decorative piece to the front and spacer to the rear, I guess there's less money in that when it's something that was added on a significant expense when the customer is already committed.
Pelmet things are complete ste, soft MDF, not straight and too short, so joining them with invisible joins is pretty much impossible and there's far more joins than should be necessary. Looked better without them because of the joins.
All the shelves are really low quality, so while the doors - fitment aside - look decent, as soon as you open one you're reminded that it's actually complete rubbish. Shelves are 20mm short, so you lose a little storage space everywhere.
And they supplied a complete 300 deep wall unit to go around a pipe box that is 250mm x 250mm, so you can imagine how well that all works now the cupboard has been cut to bits to accomodate. I did a really good job of that, but the chance of getting a normal kitchen fitter to do that right are pretty low.
This worked out at about 500 per unit once all the add-ons were included and one of those slim laminate worktops added. Not including my time to fit it. fking hell.
Also, never get badgered into fitting a kitchen for a relative. Never.
You're a DIYer aren't you?They insisted on a load of unecessary filler panels - I wasn't involved in the design process - these are all exposed edges and have the thinest covering, they won't last more than a couple of years of normal use before they look tatty. Impossible to replace without taking the whole kitchen to bits. Not sure why they couldn't have supplied these a small decorative piece to the front and spacer to the rear, I guess there's less money in that when it's something that was added on a significant expense when the customer is already committed.
Pelmet things are complete s
te, soft MDF, not straight and too short, so joining them with invisible joins is pretty much impossible and there's far more joins than should be necessary. Looked better without them because of the joins.All the shelves are really low quality, so while the doors - fitment aside - look decent, as soon as you open one you're reminded that it's actually complete rubbish. Shelves are 20mm short, so you lose a little storage space everywhere.
And they supplied a complete 300 deep wall unit to go around a pipe box that is 250mm x 250mm, so you can imagine how well that all works now the cupboard has been cut to bits to accomodate. I did a really good job of that, but the chance of getting a normal kitchen fitter to do that right are pretty low.
This worked out at about 500 per unit once all the add-ons were included and one of those slim laminate worktops added. Not including my time to fit it. f
king hell.Also, never get badgered into fitting a kitchen for a relative. Never.
CharlieDeltaTango said:
We are shortly having our kitchen replaced in a property that we have just oved in to.
We opted for the same supplier (Howdens) and same fitter as our last kitchen as we couldn't fault either. Did have to double check the prices as it was a little more than we expected but at just under 8k for the kitchen and utility room it's not too bad. This includes Induction Hob, fitted fridge/freezer and dishwasher.
Electrics come in at £1650 inc, to move a couple of sockets, add wiring for the relocated oven and work with the fitter on tis, fitting is £4500 inc plastering but I know his work is excellent. Flooring is £1000 to do 10 sq meters but we still need to decide on the tiles so that's just the fitting . Still unsure on the tile colour, we have a wet room and corridor to the garage that leads off the side of the utility room with black slate tiles but if we got the same to do the kitchen they may look a little dark in there.
We went for the blue and white theme so tempted with a white tile floor too. But may live to regret that.
Just had a quick 5 mins to mock this with a darker floor to see how it looks.
Looks good. I am doing a navy kitchen at the moment and also having to make some choices. We're a couple of weeks off door fitting and worktops so I don't have a pic yet but the floor will be porcelain wood effect planks, the worktops grey quartz with only the splashbacks and wall colours undecided. They can wait as they're almost the final piece in the jigsaw but I'm leaning towards a mixture of bare brick/slips and white. I think a lot depends on whether you want a more cool and clean look or something warmer. We wanted the latter. I think yours might feel a little cold if you introduce more white. You could be brave with a bright contrasting colour which would keep the clean look but add to the impact and introduce a little warmth.We opted for the same supplier (Howdens) and same fitter as our last kitchen as we couldn't fault either. Did have to double check the prices as it was a little more than we expected but at just under 8k for the kitchen and utility room it's not too bad. This includes Induction Hob, fitted fridge/freezer and dishwasher.
Electrics come in at £1650 inc, to move a couple of sockets, add wiring for the relocated oven and work with the fitter on tis, fitting is £4500 inc plastering but I know his work is excellent. Flooring is £1000 to do 10 sq meters but we still need to decide on the tiles so that's just the fitting . Still unsure on the tile colour, we have a wet room and corridor to the garage that leads off the side of the utility room with black slate tiles but if we got the same to do the kitchen they may look a little dark in there.
We went for the blue and white theme so tempted with a white tile floor too. But may live to regret that.
Just had a quick 5 mins to mock this with a darker floor to see how it looks.
Edited by CharlieDeltaTango on Wednesday 26th April 15:53
FWIW said:
Quelle surprise.
Hope you get it sorted.
We did, was very easy actually which rather surprised us.Hope you get it sorted.
You click a link, click which bit was damaged and they send you a new one. Didn't even want pictures of the damage!
Took about 15 minutes to do the order for the replacements and they arrived 7 days later, none of the replacements are damaged.
There was no major damage to any of it, just small nicks in the corners, you could cover some with a touch up pen but we paid £11k for the kitchen so having to use a touch up pen on brand new doors was not something I was willing to accept.
No idea what I am meant to do with the old doors though....
Unreal said:
Looks good. I am doing a navy kitchen at the moment and also having to make some choices. We're a couple of weeks off door fitting and worktops so I don't have a pic yet but the floor will be porcelain wood effect planks, the worktops grey quartz with only the splashbacks and wall colours undecided. They can wait as they're almost the final piece in the jigsaw but I'm leaning towards a mixture of bare brick/slips and white. I think a lot depends on whether you want a more cool and clean look or something warmer. We wanted the latter. I think yours might feel a little cold if you introduce more white. You could be brave with a bright contrasting colour which would keep the clean look but add to the impact and introduce a little warmth.
That's a good shout. To answer the other questions, the cupboard with the cooker in does indeed go into the wall partly so the way it looks is correct and the door opens outwards so no issues there.
We do have the splashbacks to fit as well behind the hob and the sink in the utility room.
CharlieDeltaTango said:
To answer the other questions, the cupboard with the cooker in does indeed go into the wall partly so the way it looks is correct ...
That's pretty unusual!We have an American fridge freezer set into the wall between the kitchen and utility room which baffles people at first. Was great fun fitting it - it's nominally 92cm wide and the builder made the finished width of hole 91.5cm.
Have spent the weekend browsing this thread, as we're getting quite serious about swapping our dining area and kitchen area around.
I find DIY satisfying, and it makes money go further (albeit more slowly) and I have seen a lot of references to bad fitters Vs good fitters.
My question is: what are the tricks that good fitters know / what value do they add over bad fitters?
On the basis
- I own and can use spirit levels
- I own and can use squares and tape measures
- I can drill holes and tighten screws
- I can pay attention to details and won't have a "that'll do" mindset to my own house
(This is not a poor attempt at sarcasm - it's a genuine query btw.)
I wouldn't do the worktops, and would get gas safe/part p / part h sign off where needed.
The biggest issue to me would be kitchen downtime, as I'll have weekends and around 7pm-10pm per day to put into this, unless I took leave from work.
Here's an example:
Thanks
Ian
I find DIY satisfying, and it makes money go further (albeit more slowly) and I have seen a lot of references to bad fitters Vs good fitters.
My question is: what are the tricks that good fitters know / what value do they add over bad fitters?
On the basis
- I own and can use spirit levels
- I own and can use squares and tape measures
- I can drill holes and tighten screws
- I can pay attention to details and won't have a "that'll do" mindset to my own house
(This is not a poor attempt at sarcasm - it's a genuine query btw.)
I wouldn't do the worktops, and would get gas safe/part p / part h sign off where needed.
The biggest issue to me would be kitchen downtime, as I'll have weekends and around 7pm-10pm per day to put into this, unless I took leave from work.
Here's an example:
-Ad- said:
We had our local trusted joiner fit (£1.4k), as it's the fitting which really makes a kitchen stand out and kitchen companies charge way over the odds. He loved the Leicht fitting as everything was made perfectly, came with all the fittings and loads of extras. It was just a case of put into the right place and fix them.
.
If it's just putting things into the right place and fixing them, then in the words of Sir Robin "that's easy!"..
Thanks
Ian
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