Sanding - dust extraction

[robwilk]

Austin_Metro said:

Thanks all. Bought the dust mask as recommended. Still thinking about Henry, Bosch or karacher.

Ive got a karcher its crap, henrys are not as good as the old ones when they reduced the power , the titan one works ok for workshop use, my son has the bigger one with the power take of and its great but huge.

[guitarcarfanatic]

Having used a cheaper vacuum for ages, I was really concerned about dust now I have young children in the house. Treated myself to a Festool MIDI - pricey, but the different in dust getting through the vacuum bag is night and day. Plus it picks up better than the old vac, has a more refined power take off and the Bluetooth remote is a game changer

[Celtic Dragon]

I bought one of these for cleaning up after knocking tiles off the walls in the kitchen renovation. Worked so far and it’s cheap enough to be disposable if it breaks, which it hasn’t so far, after doing 2 partial kitchen renovations so far.

If it survives then it will go into the grange and get used as a shop vac.

https://www.diy.com/departments/performance-power-...

[beanoir]

I had a Screwfix Titan, it was good but kinda cheap, hose and tools are too small to suck up much without getting blocked all the time. I tried it as a dust extractor but the hose was a bit too short.

Recently replaced it with a Karcher WD6 (there’s a deal on right now and additional Honey codes) and it’s fantastic. It’s powerful, not too loud, tools are well made and it’s got a dust extractor function so you can plug your tools into it and sync it with them.

[ecotec]

If you get a Henry, you might want to get the aftermarket HEPA filter, like:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/First4Spares-Premium-Numa...

Numatic brand the bags + filter HepaFlow but they are not HEPA compliant and with sanding dust you want to catch all the small dust you can. The better filter makes a big difference.

If you want to spend more, I've also got an excellent Nilfisk with includes a class M filter and has power take off, which does make it much easier as the vac will turn on and off with the sander and you essentially get a 4m extension lead for the sander too

This looks like the new version, mine is 4/5 years old:

https://www.cleanstore.co.uk/products/Product.asp?...

[LordHaveMurci]

For my banister handrails I ended up using sanding sponges, wet them & there’s no dust. The mess they do make is easy to vacuum up afterwards.

[Austin_Metro]

ecotec said:

If you get a Henry, you might want to get the aftermarket HEPA filter, like:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/First4Spares-Premium-Numa...

Numatic brand the bags + filter HepaFlow but they are not HEPA compliant and with sanding dust you want to catch all the small dust you can. The better filter makes a big difference.

If you want to spend more, I've also got an excellent Nilfisk with includes a class M filter and has power take off, which does make it much easier as the vac will turn on and off with the sander and you essentially get a 4m extension lead for the sander too

This looks like the new version, mine is 4/5 years old:

https://www.cleanstore.co.uk/products/Product.asp?...

This has got me looking at m class filtration and auto on off. Gone from £ 50 to festool… not even man maths makes that work …

[anonymous-user]

Titan for me.

[guitarcarfanatic]

Austin_Metro said:

This has got me looking at m class filtration and auto on off. Gone from 50 to festool… not even man maths makes that work …

Yep! Thats why I chose Festool - both wood, and more importantly cement are harmful. My cheap wet and dry vac was great - powerful, take off power etc. But you could see fine dust exiting the motor exhaust into the room. I can wear a facemask when I work in the house...but my family can't!

[TX1]

Titan for me also, at £45 cannot fault it.
Have used it attached to a small B & D mouse sander and also used it doing big sanding jobs with a big belt sander.

[neth27]

Austin_Metro said:

This has got me looking at m class filtration and auto on off. Gone from 50 to festool… not even man maths makes that work …

Class L filters are the same as class M, don’t waste your money.

[Austin_Metro]

Bought a trend t33a. 145gbp. Gets mixed reviews but will give it a try …

https://www.powertoolworld.co.uk/trend-t33a-25l-m-...

[mike74]

LordHaveMurci said:

For my banister handrails I ended up using sanding sponges, wet them & there’s no dust. The mess they do make is easy to vacuum up afterwards.

I tried using these recently but found them pretty much useless, they do remove some loose flaking material just like a sponge scourer would but they appear to do zero actual sanding.

[LordHaveMurci]

mike74 said:

LordHaveMurci said:

For my banister handrails I ended up using sanding sponges, wet them & there’s no dust. The mess they do make is easy to vacuum up afterwards.

I tried using these recently but found them pretty much useless, they do remove some loose flaking material just like a sponge scourer would but they appear to do zero actual sanding.

I’ve used them quite a bit now & found them ok, not as aggressive as decent sandpaper but for prep work they’re fine.

[guitarcarfanatic]

LordHaveMurci said:

I’ve used them quite a bit now & found them ok, not as aggressive as decent sandpaper but for prep work they’re fine.

Agreed, the Festool ones are banging (and only about 50p each!)

[pquinn]

guitarcarfanatic said:

But you could see fine dust exiting the motor exhaust into the room. I can wear a facemask when I work in the house...but my family can't!

I sorted the problem of filtering the finest dust by the simple expedient of getting a second hose, putting it on the exhaust port then poking it out the window.

[CO2000]

talksthetorque said:

CO2000 said:

If its a small area or light sanding I'd look at doing it with a sanding block, far less dust!

Surely it doesnt matter what method you use - if you remove x amount of material from the wood, then you get x amount of dust.
Agree it won't blow it out of a hole in the end of the sanding block though

Yes I should have said far less dust going everywhere rather than just dropping down