New build deviating from plans…

New build deviating from plans…

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mcg_

1,445 posts

93 months

Monday 20th February 2023
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Two of the biggest PLC's blow their cavities to my knowledge, I'm sure they're not on their own.

Knauf now have an app which can be used to show how many bags have been blown to a plot, each bag has it's own unique barcode.

Back to the original point, OP it would be worth asking how the cavity is insulated as blown in theory doesn't work with rough stone.

acer12

970 posts

175 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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Probably been said already but assume the window cut was there from the timber frame factory, so either an error at the production or delivered to the wrong plot? Nobody noticed until later down the line, then the pathetic effort to fix at lowest cost.

As other posters mentioned, doubt they would allow the window be fitted as it would deviate from the agreed energy rating.

Toaster Pilot

Original Poster:

14,622 posts

159 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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acer12 said:
Probably been said already but assume the window cut was there from the timber frame factory, so either an error at the production or delivered to the wrong plot? Nobody noticed until later down the line, then the pathetic effort to fix at lowest cost.

As other posters mentioned, doubt they would allow the window be fitted as it would deviate from the agreed energy rating.
What timber frame factory would that be? It’s block and stone.

Zarco

17,974 posts

210 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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blueg33 said:
smokey mow said:
Like the subbies who built toaster pilots window ?biglaugh

In my experience it’s a race to the bottom in terms of price with little site control or concern about quality.

I heard a rumour recently that one local developer (who I won’t name) is now charging an additional £500 premium on their new homes if you appoint your own snagger so as to cover the cost of additional works and rectifying the defects they find.

Edited by smokey mow on Monday 20th February 17:52
Site management, is, as ever, they key to a good build
Appointing good subbies helps a hell of a lot.

acer12

970 posts

175 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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Toaster Pilot said:
What timber frame factory would that be? It’s block and stone.
My bad, incorrect assumption based on you mentioning that its a nationwide builder, so assumed they build / procure the wooden frame offsite (which come with the window cuts already in place) and assemble it onsite after which its externally blocked. I think is the norm for these large sites.

un1eash

605 posts

141 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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acer12 said:
My bad, incorrect assumption based on you mentioning that its a nationwide builder, so assumed they build / procure the wooden frame offsite (which come with the window cuts already in place) and assemble it onsite after which its externally blocked. I think is the norm for these large sites.
It's not the norm for Davidson's, David Wilson, Redrow or Barrett's that and building near us. It's all brick externally.

acer12

970 posts

175 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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un1eash said:
It's not the norm for Davidson's, David Wilson, Redrow or Barrett's that and building near us. It's all brick externally.
Timber frame are also brick external

un1eash

605 posts

141 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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acer12 said:
Timber frame are also brick external
I've seen the houses being build over the last 5 years, there's not a single wooden frame, it's all grey blocks and brick.

mcg_

1,445 posts

93 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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Not many of the plc's do timber frame. Some persimmon regions use space4 and countryside (part of vistry now). Sure there's others out there. If it was timber frame there's slightly more chance it would have been correct on site.

blueg33

36,144 posts

225 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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mcg_ said:
Not many of the plc's do timber frame. Some persimmon regions use space4 and countryside (part of vistry now). Sure there's others out there. If it was timber frame there's slightly more chance it would have been correct on site.
Persimmon own Space4

Much easier to hit the U values with timber frame.


Edited by blueg33 on Wednesday 22 February 08:23

db10

276 posts

264 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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smokey mow said:
Like the subbies who built toaster pilots window ?biglaugh

In my experience it’s a race to the bottom in terms of price with little site control or concern about quality.

I heard a rumour recently that one local developer (who I won’t name) is now charging an additional £500 premium on their new homes if you appoint your own snagger so as to cover the cost of additional works and rectifying the defects they find.

Edited by smokey mow on Monday 20th February 17:52
how would they know if you took the snaggers report and copied it up to look like you had done it yourself with a spirit level and a copy of the regs?

Toaster Pilot

Original Poster:

14,622 posts

159 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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Tax window be gone!

Still looks a bit naff for now but presumably the mortar will weather in like the rest


PositronicRay

27,089 posts

184 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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Toaster Pilot said:
Tax window be gone!

Still looks a bit naff for now but presumably the mortar will weather in like the rest

Unless you were looking for it, you wouldn't notice. thumbup

roadsmash

2,623 posts

71 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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It does look weird without a window though.

Toaster Pilot

Original Poster:

14,622 posts

159 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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roadsmash said:
It does look weird without a window though.
Thanks for yet another opinion I didn’t ask for

Sheets Tabuer

19,078 posts

216 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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roadsmash said:
It does look weird without a window though.
I have the same shape house and that's my bedroom, I have a double window there and it's a pain in the arse, would much prefer the OPs layout, I could put a bed up against that wall.

Toaster Pilot

Original Poster:

14,622 posts

159 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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The window thing is sorted now and looks good, you’d struggle to tell it’d ever been anything else.

Enter then, the latest clusterfk



Either the door frame or staircase are in the wrong place…..

thebraketester

14,276 posts

139 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Jesus Christ!

Zarco

17,974 posts

210 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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laugh


Toaster Pilot

Original Poster:

14,622 posts

159 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Zarco said:
laugh
Glad someone finds it funny. Not sure you would if it was your six hundred thousand pounds mind.