Luxury & silk bedding?

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Big Stevie

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594 posts

17 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Having spent what feels like small car money on a new bed & mattress I'm now after some really nice bedding, and I'm considering some Hungarian goose down pillows and would like some really nice & comfortable sheets and pillow cases.

Is Egyptian cotton the way to go? Thread count?

What are peoples thoughts on silk sheets etc? Are they reserved for the kind of 1970's films you found as a kid on VHS tapes at the back of your dads wardrobe, or are they actually really nice to sleep on?

Edited by Big Stevie on Tuesday 28th March 12:54

beanoir78

352 posts

102 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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I thought silk sheets were reserved for heart shaped water beds

PushedDover

5,660 posts

54 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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beanoir78 said:
I thought silk sheets were reserved for heart shaped water beds
That is Rubber, no ?



OP.
Try White Company, or we use a lot 'Soak and Sleep' - anything above 600TC will be lovely IF YOU IRON / PRESS

turbospud

500 posts

239 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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never mind canadian goose down,this is the way to go

https://floks.co.uk/

i now realised why sheep can sit out all night in freezing temperatures


montecristo

1,043 posts

178 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Peter Reed are a good combination of quality/value, and UK made.

Frette, Yves Delorme and Pratesi are among the most expensive brands and they're excellent but the price difference (which is huge) is probably more for the pretty patterns than the quality of the material.

Thread count isn't a good proxy for feel. The 200s from Peter Reed feel silky and plenty luxurious while I've had 800s from can't-remember-whom that were like cardboard.

Silk can snag and ball up, and, personally, I don't like how silk is made.

Big Stevie

Original Poster:

594 posts

17 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Anyone used Diamond Bedding?

I see they have some Egyptian cotton 1000 thread count sheets and bedding sets for what seem to be reasonable prices.

rlw

3,339 posts

238 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Egyptian cotton or silk will test your ironing capabilities. For very good quality but not silly prices, try Sheridan for bed linen.

https://www.sheridanaustralia.co.uk/

beanoir78

352 posts

102 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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rlw said:
Egyptian cotton or silk will test your ironing capabilities. For very good quality but not silly prices, try Sheridan for bed linen.

https://www.sheridanaustralia.co.uk/
You iron your bedding…?

It’s in the same category as pants and socks in our house, we don’t iron them.

wolfracesonic

7,024 posts

128 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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If you want the ultimate in cotton, Google ‘Sferra Giza 45’ cotton, may cost more than your mattress thougheek As an alternative to cotton, have a look at linen bedding, Libeco, Alexandre Turpault and Garnier Thiebaut are some of the high end traditional French/Belgian names; I’ve just ordered some stuff from LinenMe in Lithuania, to see how it compares to my other linen, that I mentioned.

montecristo

1,043 posts

178 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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wolfracesonic said:
If you want the ultimate in cotton, Google ‘Sferra Giza 45’ cotton, may cost more than your mattress thougheek As an alternative to cotton, have a look at linen bedding, Libeco, Alexandre Turpault and Garnier Thiebaut are some of the high end traditional French/Belgian names; I’ve just ordered some stuff from LinenMe in Lithuania, to see how it compares to my other linen, that I mentioned.
It's mad how much Sferra and the like cost. I was at Yves Delorme small-talking with the staff and they said their 'typical' customer buys a new house and buys three sets of everything for each of the seven bedrooms, paying a billion pounds for bed linen (she was explaining why rising mortgage rates affect their sales). I bought a pillow case.

Bear in mind that linen won't feel silky. But it will feel warmer than 'silky' sheets.

Doofus

25,850 posts

174 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Big Stevie said:
What are peoples thoughts on silk sheets etc? Are they reserved for the kind of 1970's films you found as a kid on VHS tapes at the back of your dads wardrobe, or are they actually really nice to sleep on?

Edited by Big Stevie on Tuesday 28th March 12:54
Silk sheets are measured by momme weight. Bedding ideally needs to be 16 or above, amd a minimum of 400 thread count. A summer dress would be 8-10 momme, for comparison. Most heavier silks are from China. Indian silk tends to be lighter weight as it's primarily used for saris.

Charmeuse is the best quality for bedding - glossy on one side and matt on the other.

Silk sheets don't last forever; three to five years is about the best you should expect. Women wear them out faster than men, because they shave their legs, and the stubble rasps the fabric as they move.

Cold or cool wash with a silk-specific detergent. Ideally hang to dry and don't iron. Heat weakens the silk fibres.

Most silk is dyed, but don't buy white thinking it's 'natural'. It's been bleached and is usually not much cop.

Doofus

25,850 posts

174 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Bamboo is a good alternative with many of the tactile properties of silk, but harder wearing and less ethically questionable.

GiantCardboardPlato

4,236 posts

22 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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turbospud said:
never mind canadian goose down,this is the way to go

https://floks.co.uk/

i now realised why sheep can sit out all night in freezing temperatures
is it cause they've nowhere else to go?

wolfracesonic

7,024 posts

128 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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montecristo said:
It's mad how much Sferra and the like cost. I was at Yves Delorme small-talking with the staff and they said their 'typical' customer buys a new house and buys three sets of everything for each of the seven bedrooms, paying a billion pounds for bed linen (she was explaining why rising mortgage rates affect their sales). I bought a pillow case.

Bear in mind that linen won't feel silky. But it will feel warmer than 'silky' sheets.
Yes, linen doesn’t feel silky at all and has a pretty abysmal thread count compared to even low end cotton, I do prefer it to cotton though.

Mr Pointy

11,250 posts

160 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Big Stevie said:
Anyone used Diamond Bedding?

I see they have some Egyptian cotton 1000 thread count sheets and bedding sets for what seem to be reasonable prices.
1000TC sheets are likely to be heavy & dense so they don't breathe well in summer. Personally 600 feels good & I wouldn't go over 800. I wasn't impressed by the White Company set I bought.

PushedDover

5,660 posts

54 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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beanoir78 said:
rlw said:
Egyptian cotton or silk will test your ironing capabilities. For very good quality but not silly prices, try Sheridan for bed linen.

https://www.sheridanaustralia.co.uk/
You iron your bedding…?

It’s in the same category as pants and socks in our house, we don’t iron them.
100% do iron bedding. NOTHING better than climbing in to it.

Dicky Knee

1,034 posts

132 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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rlw said:
Egyptian cotton or silk will test your ironing capabilities. For very good quality but not silly prices, try Sheridan for bed linen.

https://www.sheridanaustralia.co.uk/
Another vote for Sheridan. Pretty much all we have used for the last 30 years in Oz and here.

This is a good place to buy Sheridan (and lots of other brands). They have an extra 15% off deal at the moment as well.

https://www.justlinen.co.uk/justlinen/sheridan.asp

LordGrover

33,549 posts

213 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Before you go down the silk/cotton route, I'd look at decent, proper linen.
It's been a revelation to me - not soft or 'luxurious' per se, but extremely comfortable. Takes a while to 'bed-in' as it's a little scatchy until it's been washed a few times, but supremely comfy.

Devon Duvets for duvet, topper and pillows
Piglet in Bed for Linen

wolfracesonic

7,024 posts

128 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Talking of linen, this has just arrived from here LinenMe, it seems to be of the same quality as my French/Belgian stuff, time will tell. One of the things that drew me to linen, was that it doesn’t have to be ironed, it’s nature suiting the rumpled, crumpled look.

jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Doofus said:
Bamboo is a good alternative with many of the tactile properties of silk, but harder wearing and less ethically questionable.
Definitely consider Bamboo. I've had so many people think I have silk sheets. They are the softest sheets I've ever found and are very, very cool in the summer. Fantastic choice IMO.