LVT flooring rough costs?

[illmonkey]

Chucklehead said:

Toaster Pilot said:

New build, so probably worse than most 50 year old houses

new build is an important point, because you should be able to fit LVT and have the vat off. When we bought our new build our flooring company sorted this out for us with the builder. We paid £50/m2 for Amtico Spacia supplied and fitted.. or possibly £60, i can't remember, but this was 2017.

We were told that the floor needs a month to dry before LVT. Or they could sell us this magic sealant that stopped moisture coming up to your new floor, for £300...

[James6112]

Harpoon said:

I just dug up this thread as we're getting quotes for installing Karndean in a newly built room. The price is certainly luxury! Room is roughly 24 sq/M plus three steps.

The first quote I've had works out about £136 sq/M for supply and fit. If we add electric UFH, it's about £237 sq/M including insulation boards, the heated mats, adhesive etc.

Thanks to the poster who mentioned Polyflor - off to investigate that if it's cheaper.

Sounds steep
My Karndean / adhesive / tools was about £30 a m2
£100 a m2 to fit?, those guys must be on near 1k a day.
Taking the P
I diy’d mine, 60m2, took about 5 days (herringbone)

[Harpoon]

James6112 said:

Sounds steep
My Karndean / adhesive / tools was about £30 a m2
£100 a m2 to fit?, those guys must be on near 1k a day.
Taking the P
I diy’d mine, 60m2, took about 5 days (herringbone)

I've had a rough install cost from another Karndean supplier - they reckon £20 sq/M for the prep' work and then £15 sq/M for installation.

The tile we like is Opus Argen (WP414). Around £38 sq/M seems to be a common price, some websites have it cheaper but not sure how legit they are. Floorsupplies.co.uk says you need 8 packs for up to 26 sq/M totalling £1041 - £40 sq/M. So that is £75 sq/M which is a little bit more palatable.

[Harpoon]

One of the Karndean resellers I've spoken to mentioned thickness of the wear layer. A cheaper brand of LVT they had was "only" 0.3mm, whereas the Karndean Opus 0.55mm.

Polyflor commercial is also 0.55mm but their domestic range is 0.3mm

https://storiesflooring.co.uk/products/polyflor-ex...

Stories also have their own brand called Lusso which is 0.55mm but on promotion at about half the price of Karndean

https://storiesflooring.co.uk/products/lusso-naple...

I'm trying to decide if all this is FUDing or not...

[Sheepshanks]

Harpoon said:

One of the Karndean resellers I've spoken to mentioned thickness of the wear layer. A cheaper brand of LVT they had was "only" 0.3mm, whereas the Karndean Opus 0.55mm.

Polyflor commercial is also 0.55mm but their domestic range is 0.3mm

https://storiesflooring.co.uk/products/polyflor-ex...

Stories also have their own brand called Lusso which is 0.55mm but on promotion at about half the price of Karndean

https://storiesflooring.co.uk/products/lusso-naple...

I'm trying to decide if all this is FUDing or not...

Karndean do three thicknesses - 0.3mm, 0.55 and 0.7mm.

We've got Van Gogh which is 0.55mm (as is Opus). I think for commercial applications they insist on at least 0.55.

[-Cappo-]

I had around 60m of Amtico Spacia laid around this time last year, which included 2 lots of self-levelling in order to take out a small step halfway across the room. £54 per sq m all in, in the South East.

Fortunately a good mate has his own company specialising in this so that was very much mate's rates!

[BobSaunders]

6x6m kardean onto a new floor with WUFH - £1500, Cheshire. Included supply, fitting, prep, gurantee etc. Two day job for two lads.

Had another room done by another fitter and the whole lot needs to come up - shop around for a fitter.

[Harpoon]

BobSaunders said:

6x6m kardean onto a new floor with WUFH - £1500, Cheshire. Included supply, fitting, prep, gurantee etc. Two day job for two lads.

Had another room done by another fitter and the whole lot needs to come up - shop around for a fitter.

Could you let me know here or e-mail the supplier / fitter you used as that seems much more reasonable than £3200 for 3.8x6.2m. Thanks!

[Sheepshanks]

BobSaunders said:

6x6m kardean onto a new floor with WUFH - £1500, Cheshire. Included supply, fitting, prep, gurantee etc. Two day job for two lads.

Was the Karndean stolen?

I shopped around, including talking to an independent fitter, and that price is bonkers - even the cheapest Kardean is £20sq mtr online (it goes up to over £100). The fitters seem to want a grand a day (inc all fitting materials).

Ours (60sq M, straight lay) was fitted in a day with a 7AM start by one guy with a labourer, but there were two quick (~90 mins) prior visit to epoxy seal and then level the floor.

[highway]

Pal of mine has an account with Amtico.
Does excellent work as well. Not telephone number quotes either. He’s in south London if it helps PM me

[Sheepshanks]

highway said:

Pal of mine has an account with Amtico.
Does excellent work as well. Not telephone number quotes either. He’s in south London if it helps PM me

I wish I knew exactly which "model" it was, but the Amtico in the cottage we stayed in while our house was reovated was amazing - everyone who saw it was convinced it was real wood. I don't recall it being slippy either - walk on our Karndean in socks and you've got to keep your witts about you.

[Stinger70]

Paid approx £96 per sqm in the summer for amtico spacia. This was the cheapest quote by far. All in took them a solid 1.5 days including prep with 2 blokes. So around a grand labour split 2 ways approx £330 per day each. Seems reasonable.

[m3jappa]

What about the click lvt.

Thats what i put down a few yeas ago and its been pretty good. In fact i dont see any benefit of having it stuck down. it looks no different at all and the click stuff is as easy as laminate installation.

Id love to have a beautiful real wood floor but with kids and a dog so for me lvt is the only option.

[Crumpet]

m3jappa said:

What about the click lvt.

Thats what i put down a few yeas ago and its been pretty good. In fact i dont see any benefit of having it stuck down. it looks no different at all and the click stuff is as easy as laminate installation.

Id love to have a beautiful real wood floor but with kids and a dog so for me lvt is the only option.

If it’s herringbone ‘click’ it’s the work of the devil! Genuinely the hardest DIY job I’ve done and I’ve done everything!

[bristolbaron]

We fitted Brampton Chase flooring last year, supplied by MOBB from here. Very impressed with it and about half the cost of Karndean. Difficult to find an independent fitter, but I used a guy I know who generally does commercial stuff. Well worth a look!

[m3jappa]

Crumpet said:

m3jappa said:

What about the click lvt.

Thats what i put down a few yeas ago and its been pretty good. In fact i dont see any benefit of having it stuck down. it looks no different at all and the click stuff is as easy as laminate installation.

Id love to have a beautiful real wood floor but with kids and a dog so for me lvt is the only option.

If it’s herringbone ‘click’ it’s the work of the devil! Genuinely the hardest DIY job I’ve done and I’ve done everything!

Oh, really? i suppose it might be that much harder because your going to need to sort of slide and click two sides in?

Its what i am considering myself. Which did you go for?

[Crumpet]

m3jappa said:

Oh, really? i suppose it might be that much harder because your going to need to sort of slide and click two sides in?

Its what i am considering myself. Which did you go for?

It’s exactly that! And sometimes you’d need a bit of force to get them to lock and it would then open up a joint three rows away! So up it all had to come to close the opened joint.

I actually can’t remember the brand but it was from The Floorstore and was about £25 a metre. I’m happy with it now it’s down and it’s great for its intended purpose but, to be honest, I’m in the LVT = Laminate camp; never been that impressed. If I was wanting a quality feel I’d be using tiles or engineered wood, but if you’re after the look of wood then obviously it has its limitations. It’ll be tile for my kitchen refurb anyway.

[Harpoon]

Another quote on Karndean from a different shop arrived today

They have quoted to grind back the floor, then use a moisture suppressant before the smoothing compound. Same Kardean Opus in a straight lay, no herringbone or anything fancy.

Just over £5000 or ~£212 per SqM.