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I'm sorry about this OP, what a fking cowboy. What can you do, you did everything I expect to make sure he was good enough, maybe we are all expecting too much from "skilled" workers now days on work like this and it's better to accept to do it yourself albeit slower.
Angled skirting cuts with a Mitre saw are pss easy to Do.
As for the flooring work, I bet that wasn't cheap either and I bet you was really excited to see it all finished.
Angled skirting cuts with a Mitre saw are pss easy to Do.
As for the flooring work, I bet that wasn't cheap either and I bet you was really excited to see it all finished.
fourstardan said:
I'm sorry about this OP, what a fking cowboy. What can you do, you did everything I expect to make sure he was good enough, maybe we are all expecting too much from "skilled" workers now days on work like this and it's better to accept to do it yourself albeit slower.
Angled skirting cuts with a Mitre saw are pss easy to Do.
As for the flooring work, I bet that wasn't cheap either and I bet you was really excited to see it all finished.
Cheers - yes spot on. Wife is away and we were really looking forward to moving all of our furniture back in and getting on with things. Now we need to wait for the floor fitter to come back and remove the skirting (What could possibly go wrong!) Then redecorate both rooms (They were freshly decorated just before floors) find another carpenter, maybe have the floor repaired and re-treated...I've had enoughAngled skirting cuts with a Mitre saw are pss easy to Do.
As for the flooring work, I bet that wasn't cheap either and I bet you was really excited to see it all finished.
Slagathore said:
That's a really poor job.
Pretty much the easiest profile to scribe and they've still just butted it.
Are the walls plasterboard? Because if you have to rip all of that off and start again, you will make a right mess of the plasterboard. I would factor in having to buy a taller profile skirting to cover any damage etc. Or an allowance for making good above the skirting if you try and salvage the bigger pieces and buy some additions lengths, as that Will take chunks of plasterboard off when pulled off.
If he's secured them as well as he's cut them it won't that hard to remove them Pretty much the easiest profile to scribe and they've still just butted it.
Are the walls plasterboard? Because if you have to rip all of that off and start again, you will make a right mess of the plasterboard. I would factor in having to buy a taller profile skirting to cover any damage etc. Or an allowance for making good above the skirting if you try and salvage the bigger pieces and buy some additions lengths, as that Will take chunks of plasterboard off when pulled off.
Not sure i’d let the cowboy back tbh
Should be easy enough to remove the skirting. Get new skirting 1” taller, as suggested above, to hide any damage caused by its removal.
I recently did my ground floor, 6” mdf skirting from :-
https://skirtingsrus.co.uk/
Disappointing when things don’t go right, i’m sure it’ll be great in the end!
Should be easy enough to remove the skirting. Get new skirting 1” taller, as suggested above, to hide any damage caused by its removal.
I recently did my ground floor, 6” mdf skirting from :-
https://skirtingsrus.co.uk/
Disappointing when things don’t go right, i’m sure it’ll be great in the end!
SIMON67 said:
Half plasterboard - I've already gone up to 119mm and don't want to go any further. Going to have to fix any damage before replacing.
Have you discussed what you will or won't be paying for yet with him? I wouldn't trust him to make good after removing. I would imagine by the time you make good and buy new skirting, get it fitted etc, you'll either be quite a bit out of pocket, or will be taking so much off his invoice to cover it, he'll get very angry!Marumi said:
Depending on how much gripfill he's stuck them on with, you could possibly use a multi-tool with a long enough blade to cut the adhesive. If it's just a few blobs then that might be doable, but if he's ran it all along then it probably wouldn't work.
That's good shout, especially for the bits near the top of the skirting. Another project said:
If he's secured them as well as he's cut them it won't that hard to remove them
Could be the only bit he got right! Might also be better to remove it as soon as possible before it cures properly. I think sometimes they have good initial tack and dry, but don't fully cure for days after, so might be best to get removing it sooner rather than later. May do less damage if the adhesive is still a bit soft.
Promised Land said:
Evoluzione said:
What should he have done in your expert opinion?
Scribed the internal corner.He had a chop saw set up as he has mitred the external which isn’t bad, a bit of caulk in the top where the wall bows in.
But it literally takes a joiner seconds to scribe bull nose/ pencil round skirting.
I would never but joint it, no amount of caulk will make it look good.
He’s actually ran around the room anti clockwise, I always skirt clock wise so the scribe is the correct way around on my saw stool to cut by hand with a coping saw.
The way he’s done it if he’s right handed, he would have to put his foot on his saw stool to hold the skirting while cutting the scribe out.
This thread is hilarious, the PH joiners of s
t rise to the occasion once more.OP - I’ve not long had a carpenter and his apprentice round to install door frames, hang doors, install architrave and skirting. I’d feel the same as you if they left things in the state you’ve been left in… thankfully the chaps I used were proper carpenters - clearly not what you ended up with.
I wouldn’t trust them to make good, they’ve shown you their standard of work and there’s clearly some distance between your expectations and their abilities. I’d be looking to agree a settlement payment then finding someone else to make good.
I know it’s annoying, but try not to focus too much on the problems - all of this is fixable and once it’s fixed you’ll mostly forget the frustration you’re currently feeling.
I wouldn’t trust them to make good, they’ve shown you their standard of work and there’s clearly some distance between your expectations and their abilities. I’d be looking to agree a settlement payment then finding someone else to make good.
I know it’s annoying, but try not to focus too much on the problems - all of this is fixable and once it’s fixed you’ll mostly forget the frustration you’re currently feeling.
SS9 said:
OP - I’ve not long had a carpenter and his apprentice round to install door frames, hang doors, install architrave and skirting. I’d feel the same as you if they left things in the state you’ve been left in… thankfully the chaps I used were proper carpenters - clearly not what you ended up with.
I wouldn’t trust them to make good, they’ve shown you their standard of work and there’s clearly some distance between your expectations and their abilities. I’d be looking to agree a settlement payment then finding someone else to make good.
I know it’s annoying, but try not to focus too much on the problems - all of this is fixable and once it’s fixed you’ll mostly forget the frustration you’re currently feeling.
Cheers - I'm really not looking for perfection, just for a reasonable bit of competency and a good looking finish. I have a feeling that this is going to drag on for a while!I wouldn’t trust them to make good, they’ve shown you their standard of work and there’s clearly some distance between your expectations and their abilities. I’d be looking to agree a settlement payment then finding someone else to make good.
I know it’s annoying, but try not to focus too much on the problems - all of this is fixable and once it’s fixed you’ll mostly forget the frustration you’re currently feeling.
James6112 said:
Not sure i’d let the cowboy back tbh
I agree, if he'd apologised and taken responsibility then there's a chance I would give him the chance to make better because it's less hassle but given his response I wouldn't want him near the house. Pay what you think is fair (not much given you need to now correct his mistake) and get someone in to fix the rest even if it costs moreSS9 said:
OP - I’ve not long had a carpenter and his apprentice round to install door frames, hang doors, install architrave and skirting. I’d feel the same as you if they left things in the state you’ve been left in… thankfully the chaps I used were proper carpenters - clearly not what you ended up with.
I wouldn’t trust them to make good, they’ve shown you their standard of work and there’s clearly some distance between your expectations and their abilities. I’d be looking to agree a settlement payment then finding someone else to make good.
I know it’s annoying, but try not to focus too much on the problems - all of this is fixable and once it’s fixed you’ll mostly forget the frustration you’re currently feeling.
You getting a carpenter in to do the job of a joiner is as wrong as getting a floor layer to do the job of one too.I wouldn’t trust them to make good, they’ve shown you their standard of work and there’s clearly some distance between your expectations and their abilities. I’d be looking to agree a settlement payment then finding someone else to make good.
I know it’s annoying, but try not to focus too much on the problems - all of this is fixable and once it’s fixed you’ll mostly forget the frustration you’re currently feeling.
That's where the rot sets in, right at the start.
Then it's downhill from there.
PH Joiners of s
t then move in to stir things right up for our daily on screen entertainment.None of who know the full story.
Already worked up OP then gobs off at matey boy who retaliates.
Waits patiently for Episode 3 to unravel.
SIMON67 said:
fourstardan said:
I'm sorry about this OP, what a fking cowboy. What can you do, you did everything I expect to make sure he was good enough, maybe we are all expecting too much from "skilled" workers now days on work like this and it's better to accept to do it yourself albeit slower.
Angled skirting cuts with a Mitre saw are pss easy to Do.
As for the flooring work, I bet that wasn't cheap either and I bet you was really excited to see it all finished.
Cheers - yes spot on. Wife is away and we were really looking forward to moving all of our furniture back in and getting on with things. Now we need to wait for the floor fitter to come back and remove the skirting (What could possibly go wrong!) Then redecorate both rooms (They were freshly decorated just before floors) find another carpenter, maybe have the floor repaired and re-treated...I've had enoughAngled skirting cuts with a Mitre saw are pss easy to Do.
As for the flooring work, I bet that wasn't cheap either and I bet you was really excited to see it all finished.
Evoluzione said:
SS9 said:
OP - I’ve not long had a carpenter and his apprentice round to install door frames, hang doors, install architrave and skirting. I’d feel the same as you if they left things in the state you’ve been left in… thankfully the chaps I used were proper carpenters - clearly not what you ended up with.
I wouldn’t trust them to make good, they’ve shown you their standard of work and there’s clearly some distance between your expectations and their abilities. I’d be looking to agree a settlement payment then finding someone else to make good.
I know it’s annoying, but try not to focus too much on the problems - all of this is fixable and once it’s fixed you’ll mostly forget the frustration you’re currently feeling.
You getting a carpenter in to do the job of a joiner is as wrong as getting a floor layer to do the job of one too.I wouldn’t trust them to make good, they’ve shown you their standard of work and there’s clearly some distance between your expectations and their abilities. I’d be looking to agree a settlement payment then finding someone else to make good.
I know it’s annoying, but try not to focus too much on the problems - all of this is fixable and once it’s fixed you’ll mostly forget the frustration you’re currently feeling.
That's where the rot sets in, right at the start.
Then it's downhill from there.
PH Joiners of s
t then move in to stir things right up for our daily on screen entertainment.None of who know the full story.
Already worked up OP then gobs off at matey boy who retaliates.
Waits patiently for Episode 3 to unravel.
Joinery is making furniture joints isn’t it?
In any case, a wooden floor layer should be able to do basic diy jobs associated with their main specialism.
Ie, I know professional decorators who also have been trained in joinery and carpentry, and can do the jobs associated in and around their trade.
That is what true professional outfits who work on decent jobs do.
Mr Whippy said:
Evoluzione said:
SS9 said:
OP - I’ve not long had a carpenter and his apprentice round to install door frames, hang doors, install architrave and skirting. I’d feel the same as you if they left things in the state you’ve been left in… thankfully the chaps I used were proper carpenters - clearly not what you ended up with.
I wouldn’t trust them to make good, they’ve shown you their standard of work and there’s clearly some distance between your expectations and their abilities. I’d be looking to agree a settlement payment then finding someone else to make good.
I know it’s annoying, but try not to focus too much on the problems - all of this is fixable and once it’s fixed you’ll mostly forget the frustration you’re currently feeling.
You getting a carpenter in to do the job of a joiner is as wrong as getting a floor layer to do the job of one too.I wouldn’t trust them to make good, they’ve shown you their standard of work and there’s clearly some distance between your expectations and their abilities. I’d be looking to agree a settlement payment then finding someone else to make good.
I know it’s annoying, but try not to focus too much on the problems - all of this is fixable and once it’s fixed you’ll mostly forget the frustration you’re currently feeling.
That's where the rot sets in, right at the start.
Then it's downhill from there.
PH Joiners of s
t then move in to stir things right up for our daily on screen entertainment.None of who know the full story.
Already worked up OP then gobs off at matey boy who retaliates.
Waits patiently for Episode 3 to unravel.
Joinery is making furniture joints isn’t it?
In any case, a wooden floor layer should be able to do basic diy jobs associated with their main specialism.
Ie, I know professional decorators who also have been trained in joinery and carpentry, and can do the jobs associated in and around their trade.
That is what true professional outfits who work on decent jobs do.
t stirrer/arguer/misery guts... :-)Mr Whippy said:
Evoluzione said:
SS9 said:
OP - I’ve not long had a carpenter and his apprentice round to install door frames, hang doors, install architrave and skirting. I’d feel the same as you if they left things in the state you’ve been left in… thankfully the chaps I used were proper carpenters - clearly not what you ended up with.
I wouldn’t trust them to make good, they’ve shown you their standard of work and there’s clearly some distance between your expectations and their abilities. I’d be looking to agree a settlement payment then finding someone else to make good.
I know it’s annoying, but try not to focus too much on the problems - all of this is fixable and once it’s fixed you’ll mostly forget the frustration you’re currently feeling.
You getting a carpenter in to do the job of a joiner is as wrong as getting a floor layer to do the job of one too.I wouldn’t trust them to make good, they’ve shown you their standard of work and there’s clearly some distance between your expectations and their abilities. I’d be looking to agree a settlement payment then finding someone else to make good.
I know it’s annoying, but try not to focus too much on the problems - all of this is fixable and once it’s fixed you’ll mostly forget the frustration you’re currently feeling.
That's where the rot sets in, right at the start.
Then it's downhill from there.
PH Joiners of s
t then move in to stir things right up for our daily on screen entertainment.None of who know the full story.
Already worked up OP then gobs off at matey boy who retaliates.
Waits patiently for Episode 3 to unravel.
Joinery is making furniture joints isn’t it?
In any case, a wooden floor layer should be able to do basic diy jobs associated with their main specialism.
Ie, I know professional decorators who also have been trained in joinery and carpentry, and can do the jobs associated in and around their trade.
That is what true professional outfits who work on decent jobs do.
I could be wrong, but I don't believe wood floor laying is an officially recognised trade, it certainly never was. You could never go to College to learn it and get a City & Guilds or whatever, it's just something you pick up along the way and decide to have a go at.
A skilled joiner can fit wooden flooring because he's over qualified, a skilled floorlayer can't do the job of a joiner because he has no formal qualification in anything.
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