Rate my skirting!

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SIMON67

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292 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Quick update - just got home and here are a couple of the corners I can get to (floor still tacky so can't get around). This is his "Once I caulk it you'll never notice it" FFS!




BlindedByTheLights

1,249 posts

97 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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If that is an actual trades persons work, and you are actually paying for it then I would be politely asking them to leave. That’s a crap DIY job let alone a tradespersons work.

MattyD803

1,716 posts

65 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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BlindedByTheLights said:
If that is an actual trades persons work, and you are actually paying for it then I would be politely asking them to leave. That’s a crap DIY job let alone a tradespersons work.
Unless this is a wind up, then yes, this. He doesn't deserve payment for working in your house.

SIMON67

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292 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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BlindedByTheLights said:
If that is an actual trades persons work, and you are actually paying for it then I would be politely asking them to leave. That’s a crap DIY job let alone a tradespersons work.
Wood flooring specialist!

TheInternet

4,717 posts

163 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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SIMON67 said:
Starting to feel pretty good about the st job I'm going to do now.

SIMON67

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292 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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MattyD803 said:
Unless this is a wind up, then yes, this. He doesn't deserve payment for working in your house.
Believe me, not a wind up!

poo at Paul's

14,147 posts

175 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Dont pay him. Thats st

MBVitoria

2,395 posts

223 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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TheInternet said:
SIMON67 said:
Starting to feel pretty good about the st job I'm going to do now.
Lol at how he's had the attention to detail to put a little bevel on the outer edge of that skirting but hasn't bothered to scribe it.

Mr Whippy

29,033 posts

241 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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shtu said:
"Filler and paint makes me the joiner I ain't."

That's just lazy. Butt joints at the corners saves him maybe half an hour per room.

On -some- of the gaps it's a judgement call - trying to force a short piece to bend to the shape of the wall risks it looking worse than filling, and of course because they're not using any fixings, it wouldn't bend into place without being clamped.

Yet another thread that makes me realise it's less hassle overall to just DIY. I did better than that on my first attempt at skirting.
With regards bending skirting to walls… as I’ve found, against linear wood flooring it’s visually more acceptable to run parallel to the wood grains if possible, and definitely to try keep skirting boards linear to tie into the wood grain.

This can mean fairly hefty gaps back to the wall, and ultimately it’s all a balancing act, but it’s visually preferable.

I’ve yet to finish mine off, but intending to filler it to the last 1-2mm off the top, then have a caulk topping.


Also I used some clear silicone on mine and used props across the room/hallway to push it against the wall for 8hrs or so.
I’ve had a good crack at knocking it off but a good silicone does indeed seem to be sufficient for the job.

Best of all it will tear off and be fairly easy to clean up if required.

Nails just ruin the plastering.

Screws with plugs would be my preference but not in a house with plastic pipes buried in the walls and angling and arcing all over the shop.

Mr Whippy

29,033 posts

241 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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SIMON67 said:
BlindedByTheLights said:
If that is an actual trades persons work, and you are actually paying for it then I would be politely asking them to leave. That’s a crap DIY job let alone a tradespersons work.
Wood flooring specialist!
rofl

To be fair the skirting isn’t the floor, so out of their specialism hehe

I’d be starting to question how well their floor work will remain good for.


The “professional trade” cretin who fitted my karndesan undercut my stair newel by about 1cm, despite only needing a couple of mm to give the required effect.

And they used some giant circular saw thing, not a multi-tool sat on a piece of material to get it super perfect and tight.


Honestly I think 90% of trades are professional (ie, paid for their work), but they’re not actually any good, and often worse than an average DIYer.
In this high demand environment any old rubbish appears to be acceptable.

Edited by Mr Whippy on Thursday 30th March 18:43

Promised Land

4,724 posts

209 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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TheInternet said:
Promised Land said:
the 2 pieces of skirting are always trying to pull away from each other as they'll be pinned to the walls
Can you explain this further? Is it true of MDF?
So you’ve mitre two pieces to go into an internal corner, the walls will not be square or plumb it just doesn’t happen with wet trades, no fault of theirs but it’s nigh on impossible to get a 90 degree corner and plumb, so you pin the skirting to both walls, the joint will not be closed fully, the idea of scribing like I said is to hide the joint so you cannot see into it.

( Go and mitre bond the joint together then try fitting it to the walls, the mitre will split and open.)

Joiners have been taught to scribe internal corners for decades, you go into an old terrace with original skirts and pull them off, they’ll be scribed in the corners not mitred. It’s just never done.

MDF or timber, you won’t get a tight fit doing it the DIY way.

Like the OP’s now caulked bull nose, if he painted it, no matter how many coats you’ll always see the plumb cut of the skirting and the little bit of caulk stuck on it.



markbigears

2,271 posts

269 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Truly horrendous job

Chumley.mouse

307 posts

37 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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I was taught to fit skirting in the days before mitre saws ( hand tools ) and nobody cut a mitre on an internal corner.

Like the post above, the corner is never 90 degrees so it’s a scribe every time. Not a butt joint either.

Mr Whippy

29,033 posts

241 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Please tell me this specialist is going to leave painting the skirting to someone else hehe

TheInternet

4,717 posts

163 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Thanks. I suspect I’ll get away with an internal mitre if I get the angles right, but am tempted to pick up a coping saw even though I know I’ll lack the ability to use it.

FWIW the original, 60 year old boards that came off were just butted up; no scribing/mitres.

Another project

963 posts

109 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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SIMON67 said:
BlindedByTheLights said:
If that is an actual trades persons work, and you are actually paying for it then I would be politely asking them to leave. That’s a crap DIY job let alone a tradespersons work.
Wood flooring specialist!
As a professional floor fitter if I done that and my boss saw it I'd have my p45 by the end of the day

_Hoppers

1,213 posts

65 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Unreal said:
I hate caulk. It always cracks when used to fill anything bigger than a hairline crack. It amazes me how rarely anyone can produce a square and flat wall to mount the skirting on.

Edited by Unreal on Thursday 30th March 17:28
I hate the stuff too. I much prefer to use filler and you can sand it to get square edge/corner, unlike caulk.

Wheatsheaf

107 posts

68 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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TheInternet said:
Thanks. I suspect I’ll get away with an internal mitre if I get the angles right, but am tempted to pick up a coping saw even though I know I’ll lack the ability to use it.

FWIW the original, 60 year old boards that came off were just butted up; no scribing/mitres.
I found this video really helpful learning to mitre internal corners. Well worth the effort to do it this way in my opinion.

https://youtu.be/YRu_SqWNtMs

eliot

11,429 posts

254 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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996Keef said:
"Absolutely shocking "
The woodbutcher on the job...

SIMON67

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292 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Just had a sweary row with the guy on the phone. His parting shot was "I'm a floor fitter not a carpenter" give me strength 🙄