Rats in garden...

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Turn7

23,616 posts

221 months

Tuesday 16th April
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Not cheap, but allegedly very effective, and no poison...

https://goodnaturetraps.co.uk/humane-rat-traps/

hellorent

385 posts

63 months

Tuesday 16th April
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Deep Thought said:
Sadly an air rifle isnt an option as i live in Northern Ireland and an air rifle requires a fire arms licence.
Rats aren't stupid, put the trap out without food on it for a couple of days before you set it with food,
also if you do catch 1, thoroughly wash the trap before using it again

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Edited by hellorent on Wednesday 17th April 13:36

Caddyshack

10,827 posts

206 months

Tuesday 16th April
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Deep Thought said:
Sadly an air rifle isnt an option as i live in Northern Ireland and an air rifle requires a fire arms licence.
Is it hard to get a firearms licence for just an air rifle?

Deep Thought

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35,829 posts

197 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Caddyshack said:
Is it hard to get a firearms licence for just an air rifle?
A real ball ache.


Downward

3,596 posts

103 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Dunno if rats are the same but mice love those little marshmallows that you put on top of hot chocolate and in baking !

Outbound

337 posts

183 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Air rifle gets my vote.

Sprinkle bird feed at base of feeder at the same time (convenient to you) each day and they get used to food appearing when you’re about to shoot them.

We back onto fields with maize so there is always a couple about.

ewanjp

367 posts

37 months

Wednesday 17th April
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How much of a problem are they? Is it right next to your house - if it's say 25m away there are probably rats wondering around all the time. As an example, I have a silly long garden (like 200m), I put a camera trap at the far end to take photos of deer - caught numerous photos of rats just walking past doing whatever it is they are doing up there.

That being said, we have a bird feeder about 25m from the house, rats don't last long as our cat is an absolute death machine. Frequently removing rat / squirrel / rabbit corpses from the back step tho. So either get a cat or plant catnip.

BoRED S2upid

19,711 posts

240 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Feed bigger birds. A buzzard will take a rat.

Or get a terrier. Or borrow mine.

AndyAudi

3,042 posts

222 months

Wednesday 17th April
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pequod said:
Deep Thought said:
….have opted for external enclosed traps.
That might work for a while but, Mr Rat is a clever beggar and will soon disregard your offering of food, with consequences!
As said they are clever, & don’t like new things.
If there is a plentiful supply of food they know, they often disregard poison completely . (Their intelligence is also why some delayed poisons work better as they don’t learn to associate it with death of pals)

Unlike mice, rats also need access to water, have you got a bird bath or pond?

Remove one of these - food / water / shelter from their surroundings & you move Rats.

otolith

56,160 posts

204 months

Wednesday 17th April
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The two options you are considering - kill the rats or stop feeding the birds altogether - are the only things likely to work.

Nezquick

1,461 posts

126 months

Thursday 18th April
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We had rats in our garden for months as they were nesting under our decking.

I shot three with my air rifle which stopped them for a while but more appeared. Poison didn't work, stopping feeding the birds didn't work (as they were nesting by then) and as another poster above has said, holes appeared everywhere in the garden.

We eventually got a dog (not to stop the rats, but because we wanted one) and we've not seen one since. I also removed the decking as that was just a haven for them - it was littered with nests and debris underneath.

Sounds weird, but if you have a friend with a dog, maybe borrow it for a while, let it pee all over the garden. Should stop them.

otolith

56,160 posts

204 months

Thursday 18th April
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A cat might also work. I had three cats at one time, one of them was obsessed and killed all the rats in the garden, the other two were totally uninterested. It was the smallest female of the three who was the ratter.

drmotorsport

749 posts

243 months

Thursday 18th April
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You've messed with nature by altering the food chain with abundant bird food. If you won't balance the change by removing the food then you need to increase the rats predators. Cats would be the obvious place to start if you want to delegate killing duties.

Deep Thought

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35,829 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th April
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"The Plan" -

We've stopped feeding the birds and removed all the food.

Two of these ordered - arriving today.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00XL3P51C/ref=twister...

DOC 150 arrived.

Putting all three traps out this evening with no food in them and no trap - just the boxes. These will be put along the rat "run" along the hedge. Wont touch the cases will use gloves.

Tomorrow, put some food in the boxes, traps not primed.

Put the DOC 150 out when it arrives.

Saturday / Sunday, prime the traps with food and see what happens.

Will watch a few you tube videos in the meantime on best approach to fine tune the above.

Deep Thought

Original Poster:

35,829 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th April
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Turn7 said:
Not cheap, but allegedly very effective, and no poison...

https://goodnaturetraps.co.uk/humane-rat-traps/
Pricey.... and reviews say they are not always effective.

Deep Thought

Original Poster:

35,829 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th April
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Cant do air rifles - requires a firearms licence here in NI. A load of hassle to get.

Cant do cats - we have four indoor cats already. Cant let them out as we live near a main road and historically cats here get squished on the road.

Cant do dogs - open at the back of the house. Had dogs previously, dont want them again for various reasons.

So removing foodsource for the forseeable and running with traps.


SmithCorona

615 posts

29 months

Thursday 18th April
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Raw onions and peppermint oil, and remove the food.

Steve Campbell

2,136 posts

168 months

Thursday 18th April
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Peanuts / chocolate or Snickers bar rammed into the hole on the trap....they couldn't resist it when I had some issues.

Promised Land

4,734 posts

209 months

Thursday 18th April
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Deep Thought said:
"The Plan" -

We've stopped feeding the birds and removed all the food.

Two of these ordered - arriving today.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00XL3P51C/ref=twister...

DOC 150 arrived.

Putting all three traps out this evening with no food in them and no trap - just the boxes. These will be put along the rat "run" along the hedge. Wont touch the cases will use gloves.

Tomorrow, put some food in the boxes, traps not primed.

Put the DOC 150 out when it arrives.

Saturday / Sunday, prime the traps with food and see what happens.

Will watch a few you tube videos in the meantime on best approach to fine tune the above.
Probably telling you to suck eggs but the DOC150 and any other spring trap needs to be in an enclosed box, ideally with baffles to slow the rat down, no need to bait and not set it, set all your traps from the off and bait.

Be careful with the DOC150, very powerful springs, if you catch a rat in it you’ll see how powerful as it crunches the skull.