Big shed in the garden... some advice pleas!

[VxDuncan]

I'd say your mate's gunna have to be up for a fight. Neighbour type has obviously done his homework before complaining - Looks like he knew it's within the footprint/volume and position regs so has gone the commercial use route. Sound's like he's been doing a lot of research to find a way he could complain about it. Be prepared for a fight...

[otolith]

triggersbroom said:

ETA - looks like he's moved the fence over too

No, he just hasn't got round to putting the fence back up yet, so the panels are stacked to keep his dog out.

[crmcatee]

so does it now overhang your garden ?

[SS HSV]

I built a large Log Cabin down the end of my garden some 5 years ago. It is 12 metres long by 6 metres wide... that's quite a size I can assure you.

As long as:

• It is a minimum of one metre from your bounderies
• It does not have a roof height of over 4 metres at the tallest point
• It does not take up more than half of your garden area
• The main structure is built entirely of wood, and not brick
• You are not reducing anyones light
• You do not have permanently plumbed services installed ie gas and waste pipes.

You will not need planning permission for it as it is classed as an out house or temporary building. Ours cost us £10k all in, that included the concrete foundations, the building of it, and the fixtures and fittings.

I am very tempted to rent out the main house and live in it as with two seperate rooms it is plenty big enough.

[Jsys]

buzzer said:

someone had complained that the shed was going to be used for business use. Its not. It’s purely for his hobby which is building sailing dinghy’s.

Is he going to sell them by any chance? If not, what do you do with more than one dinghy.

[SJobson]

SS HSV said:

I built a large Log Cabin down the end of my garden some 5 years ago. It is 12 metres long by 6 metres wide... that's quite a size I can assure you.

As long as:

* It is a minimum of one metre from your bounderies

• It does not have a roof height of over 4 metres at the tallest point
• It does not take up more than half of your garden area
• The main structure is built entirely of wood, and not brick
• You are not reducing anyones light
• You do not have permanently plumbed services installed ie gas and waste pipes.

You will not need planning permission for it as it is classed as an out house or temporary building. Ours cost us £10k all in, that included the concrete foundations, the building of it, and the fixtures and fittings.

I am very tempted to rent out the main house and live in it as with two seperate rooms it is plenty big enough.

A good solid basis on which to object to the stupid tiled shed in the photos

[otolith]

I've no intention of objecting to the tiled shed, though - it doesn't really bother me, and certainly not enough to fall out with my neighbour over it. Which was kind of the point of posting it.

[Balmoral Green]

SJobson said:

As long as:

* It is a minimum of one metre from your bounderies

• It does not have a roof height of over 4 metres at the tallest point

In which case, if on the boundary, no more than three metres at the boundary, 4 metres overall.

However, there was a massive change in planning regulations effective from 1st October last year, which has meant a monumental relaxation in what you can and cannot do regarding extensions before you now require planning. I haven't looked into whether there have been any changes into stand alone buildings.

Just go to your local authorities website and follow the link to the planning portal, it will all be there.

Edited by Balmoral Green on Saturday 7th March 16:41

[King Herald]

otolith said:

Our neighbour did something similar - we call it the granny flat.

I have a similar construction in my garden, but I went to great expense and effort to make it look a bit prettier, with proper roof tiles, nice guttering etc, so's not to offend anybody. Only one neighbour can really see it, and there are trees growing, as we speak, that cover it more every day from his view.

[Chrisgr31]

King Herald said:

Thats a very unusual deckchair you have there!

[buzzer]

Cheers guys…

I have been to see the said shed today… I have to say it’s a bit bigger than he let on….

Its 7 x 7 meters! Plus its 3.9 meters high! And it’s made of industrial steel cladding and actually looks like an industrial unit! I am really glad I don’t overlook it

However, it DOES comply with planning regulation (he has a large garden) but is overlooked by loads of neighbours…

No wonder they are complaining!!

He has now painted it green and has planted some fir trees around it… so it should be disappearing in about 15 years!

[muckymotor]

SS HSV said:

As long as:

• It is a minimum of one metre from your bounderies

There are quite a few residents on my road, me included, who have had a garage built at the far end of their driveway. These are definately less than one metre from the boundrary but the correct planning permisions were followed and I can't remember this being an issue?

Edited by muckymotor on Sunday 15th March 20:58

[otolith]

I think being more than a metre from the boundary is one of the requirements for certain structures to be exempt from planning permission, not a reason planning permission would be automatically declined.

[muckymotor]

It's clearer now I've read it again, this is why I'm never allowed to do anything important

[SS HSV]

muckymotor said:

SS HSV said:

As long as:

• It is a minimum of one metre from your bounderies

There are quite a few residents on my road, me included, who have had a garage built at the far end of their driveway. These are definately less than one metre from the boundrary but the correct planning permisions were followed and I can't remember this being an issue?

Cannot be specific in law but it is what we were advised by both the local planners and the supplier of the cabin.

otolith said:

I think being more than a metre from the boundary is one of the requirements for certain structures to be exempt from planning permission, not a reason planning permission would be automatically declined.

I do believe it was the case because it's a log cabin and that the one metre rule applied. Fire risk maybe?

As for this picture OMG



It that roof really bowing that bad? I know our roof is just timber with 4"x2" running from end to end at three heights, I'm pretty sure they are not designed to take that much weight. Maybe they don't want Granny around for very long!

[King Herald]

SS HSV said:

I built a large Log Cabin down the end of my garden some 5 years ago. It is 12 metres long by 6 metres wide... that's quite a size I can assure you.

As long as:

• It is a minimum of one metre from your bounderies
• It does not have a roof height of over 4 metres at the tallest point
• It does not take up more than half of your garden area
• The main structure is built entirely of wood, and not brick
• You are not reducing anyones light
• You do not have permanently plumbed services installed ie gas and waste pipes.

You will not need planning permission for it as it is classed as an out house or temporary building. Ours cost us £10k all in, that included the concrete foundations, the building of it, and the fixtures and fittings.

I am very tempted to rent out the main house and live in it as with two seperate rooms it is plenty big enough.

It has to comply with building regs though, being that size, surely?

I know the PP regs change from area to area, so people shouldn't take this list as exhaustive/definitive.

[gazza_3]

SS HSV said:

muckymotor said:

SS HSV said:

As long as:

• It is a minimum of one metre from your bounderies

There are quite a few residents on my road, me included, who have had a garage built at the far end of their driveway. These are definately less than one metre from the boundrary but the correct planning permisions were followed and I can't remember this being an issue?

Cannot be specific in law but it is what we were advised by both the local planners and the supplier of the cabin.

otolith said:

I think being more than a metre from the boundary is one of the requirements for certain structures to be exempt from planning permission, not a reason planning permission would be automatically declined.

I do believe it was the case because it's a log cabin and that the one metre rule applied. Fire risk maybe?

As for this picture OMG



It that roof really bowing that bad? I know our roof is just timber with 4"x2" running from end to end at three heights, I'm pretty sure they are not designed to take that much weight. Maybe they don't want Granny around for very long!

Next time it snows get your video phone out.

[cazzer]

If yer gonna do it.
Do it right

[SS HSV]

gazza_3 said:

SS HSV said:

muckymotor said:

SS HSV said:

As long as:

• It is a minimum of one metre from your bounderies

There are quite a few residents on my road, me included, who have had a garage built at the far end of their driveway. These are definately less than one metre from the boundrary but the correct planning permisions were followed and I can't remember this being an issue?

Cannot be specific in law but it is what we were advised by both the local planners and the supplier of the cabin.

otolith said:

I think being more than a metre from the boundary is one of the requirements for certain structures to be exempt from planning permission, not a reason planning permission would be automatically declined.

I do believe it was the case because it's a log cabin and that the one metre rule applied. Fire risk maybe?

As for this picture OMG

It that roof really bowing that bad? I know our roof is just timber with 4"x2" running from end to end at three heights, I'm pretty sure they are not designed to take that much weight. Maybe they don't want Granny around for very long!

Next time it snows get your video phone out.

Here's ours in the snow.. note the roof is still straight

[Catz]

SS HSV said:

I built a large Log Cabin down the end of my garden some 5 years ago. It is 12 metres long by 6 metres wide... that's quite a size I can assure you.

As long as:

• It is a minimum of one metre from your bounderies
• It does not have a roof height of over 4 metres at the tallest point
• It does not take up more than half of your garden area
• The main structure is built entirely of wood, and not brick
• You are not reducing anyones light
• You do not have permanently plumbed services installed ie gas and waste pipes.

You will not need planning permission for it as it is classed as an out house or temporary building. Ours cost us £10k all in, that included the concrete foundations, the building of it, and the fixtures and fittings.

I am very tempted to rent out the main house and live in it as with two seperate rooms it is plenty big enough.

That's interesting.

Any idea if things would change were it to be used for business purposes?