Big shed in the garden... some advice pleas!
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buzzer said:
He has not responded yet to the letter, any advice where to go from here?
Call the council, explain it's not for business use. Ask them to confirm that save for the business use there is nothing unlawful about it, nor could be considered so. Make a telephone record of the conversation.
suprised no one has posted a link to this website yet
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/england/genpub/en...
Load the interactive pages and click on the buildings etc to learn about planning regs
The rule of thumb seems to be
If you want to put up small detached buildings such as a garden shed or summerhouse in your garden, building regulations will not normally apply if the floor area of the building is less than 15 square metres.
If the floor area of the building is between 15 square metres and 30 square metres, you will not normally be required to apply for building regulations approval providing that the building is either at least one metre from any boundary or it is constructed of substantially non-combustible materials.
In both cases, building regulations do not apply ONLY if the building does not contain any sleeping accommodation.
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/england/genpub/en...
Load the interactive pages and click on the buildings etc to learn about planning regs
The rule of thumb seems to be
If you want to put up small detached buildings such as a garden shed or summerhouse in your garden, building regulations will not normally apply if the floor area of the building is less than 15 square metres.
If the floor area of the building is between 15 square metres and 30 square metres, you will not normally be required to apply for building regulations approval providing that the building is either at least one metre from any boundary or it is constructed of substantially non-combustible materials.
In both cases, building regulations do not apply ONLY if the building does not contain any sleeping accommodation.
Edited by JVaughan on Monday 16th March 12:44
err... planning legislation is different from Building Regulations
(permitted development rights were changed in October last year... have a look on the planning portal website and search for a copy of the Town & Country Planning (General Permitted Development) Order 1995
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY
The Town & Country Planning (General Permitted Development Development)(Amendment)(No2)(England) Order 2008
If you do that then you can have the definitive answer...
(or you could just choose one misguided comment from a whole host of Pistonheads respondees... (apologies for the latter comment, but the volume of keyboard experts is quite alarming considering you are playing around with your most valuable asset!?)
(permitted development rights were changed in October last year... have a look on the planning portal website and search for a copy of the Town & Country Planning (General Permitted Development) Order 1995
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY
The Town & Country Planning (General Permitted Development Development)(Amendment)(No2)(England) Order 2008
If you do that then you can have the definitive answer...
(or you could just choose one misguided comment from a whole host of Pistonheads respondees... (apologies for the latter comment, but the volume of keyboard experts is quite alarming considering you are playing around with your most valuable asset!?)
Build anything you want in your own garden, no matter how inappropriate, then if anyone complains, just tell them you are of Romany stock, (in order to be convincing make sure you have a semi broken sierra in the front garden and plenty of old washing machines lying around outside), then council and neighbours will leave you well alone.
They may even give you a grant, probably, and you will never get charged any tax ever again not never.
They may even give you a grant, probably, and you will never get charged any tax ever again not never.
JVaughan said:
If you want to put up small detached buildings such as a garden shed or summerhouse in your garden, building regulations will not normally apply if the floor area of the building is less than 15 square metres.
If the floor area of the building is between 15 square metres and 30 square metres, you will not normally be required to apply for building regulations approval providing that the building is either at least one metre from any boundary or it is constructed of substantially non-combustible materials.
In both cases, building regulations do not apply ONLY if the building does not contain any sleeping accommodation.
Not round my way. Building regs apply if it is larger internal floor area than 30sq metres. Planning permission not needed if less than 4metres for a peaked roof, and less than 50% of the garden area, and 5+ metres away from the house. It can also be made from any material.If the floor area of the building is between 15 square metres and 30 square metres, you will not normally be required to apply for building regulations approval providing that the building is either at least one metre from any boundary or it is constructed of substantially non-combustible materials.
In both cases, building regulations do not apply ONLY if the building does not contain any sleeping accommodation.
There are regulations about a garage being built closer to a road than the house is, which is where my PP people got a bit silly, after I requested a letter confirming I DIDN'T need PP.
They took three months to produce it, by which time the garage was half built and they then said they'd need to pay a visit and check things out. I got pi$$ed right off at that, and made an official complaint, pointing out they had given me the verbal go ahead months before
They eventually wrote an arse covering letter saying that the garage 'could not be closer to ANY road than the house'. Which, by definition, means the build is illegal, because there is ALWAYS another road beyond the garage, that the garage is closer to than the house?? IYSWIM
I think the rule is to stop people throwing up sheds in their front garden.
We've just built a block built shed that is 22ft x 18ft (or something around that size) and is just under 4m at the ridge.
We're in an AONB and to be sure we were OK we submitted a Houseowners Enquiry to our local planning department and asked them to confirm whether this came within Permitted Development or whether we required consent.
The Planning Dept confirmed that it is permitted development.
Bloody good job we did as the bleeding neighbours started the day the walls were finished. We had the enforcement officer around the next day - who was slightly embarrassed to be given a copy of the letter from his planning officer confirming that it was permitted development that had not been copied to the correct file!
What really really really pisses me off is that we built the shed out of good materials, worked bloody hard to keep the roof height down (because of the gradient) paid a fortune for nice roofing materials and built it tucked in under our hedge (but at the required distance from the boundary). Because of the gradient, the only people who can see it are us - yet the three houses above us who all complained all have big ugly tatty sheds in their own gardens that are in clear view of our garden.
They really are a bunch of NIMBY t
ts.
We'll have them though, the people before us let the hedge get really high and blocked the lane and the light of surrounding houses - we have always kept it at a decent height to avoid problems - I've told them now that as they don't like the shed (that you can't see anyway) I shall make sure that the hedge is allowed to grow up to avoid any possible offence to them....
My father tells me that there was a two page article about permitted development in yesterday's Sunday Wail.
We're in an AONB and to be sure we were OK we submitted a Houseowners Enquiry to our local planning department and asked them to confirm whether this came within Permitted Development or whether we required consent.
The Planning Dept confirmed that it is permitted development.
Bloody good job we did as the bleeding neighbours started the day the walls were finished. We had the enforcement officer around the next day - who was slightly embarrassed to be given a copy of the letter from his planning officer confirming that it was permitted development that had not been copied to the correct file!
What really really really pisses me off is that we built the shed out of good materials, worked bloody hard to keep the roof height down (because of the gradient) paid a fortune for nice roofing materials and built it tucked in under our hedge (but at the required distance from the boundary). Because of the gradient, the only people who can see it are us - yet the three houses above us who all complained all have big ugly tatty sheds in their own gardens that are in clear view of our garden.
They really are a bunch of NIMBY t
ts. We'll have them though, the people before us let the hedge get really high and blocked the lane and the light of surrounding houses - we have always kept it at a decent height to avoid problems - I've told them now that as they don't like the shed (that you can't see anyway) I shall make sure that the hedge is allowed to grow up to avoid any possible offence to them....
My father tells me that there was a two page article about permitted development in yesterday's Sunday Wail.
Edited by Piglet on Monday 16th March 13:54
So do you reckon the farts will respond kindly if you dangle some naff ol' frilly flowery hanging baskets off the front? You can always stick some up, go round to their place and see if they'll show you the view from their citadel (don't forget to take your own step ladder - theirs is probably worn out with over use). Take some ginger biscuits lightly rubbed with birdeye chillies.
road ragette said:
So do you reckon the farts will respond kindly if you dangle some naff ol' frilly flowery hanging baskets off the front? You can always stick some up, go round to their place and see if they'll show you the view from their citadel (don't forget to take your own step ladder - theirs is probably worn out with over use). Take some ginger biscuits lightly rubbed with birdeye chillies.
We're going to have a grand opening of the shed party in a month or two - let's see how much use their step ladder gets then 
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