Really really noisy neighbours
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A load of scroats have rented the house over the road from us and turned it into a right old dos house.
Since they moved in a month ago there have been regular bouts of insanely loud music (so loud the windows have been vibrating) late at night, loads of drunken teenage fools hanging around outside, arguments and nearly fights outside the front door, and stupid cars with stupidly loud exhausts (not nice engine noise, the usual Shatso and Fiesta s
t) pulling up outside and revving the engine.
After two weeks of this I got a bit miffed and called the police, this was two weeks ago today actually. They said that they couldn't do anything as it is a 'civil' matter. They suggested I go to the council.
Went to the council last week and was told that I would need to make an appointment for a week's time to speak to someone. WTF! The buggers at the council spotted the fact that we had UPVC windows installed one weekend last year (we didn't realise we had to have them checked and pay a tax, sorry 'fee' for this). But I couldn't see anyone on a Weds morning to complain about antisocial behaviour.
Anyway, I was in a rush on Weds as I had a funeral to attend so I left the council after waiting for 20mins and was told to ring them for an appointment.
When I originally rang the police I was going to say something that would get them there. Something along the lines of the fact that the scroates had a weapon (the chap at the council on reception even told me to say this). But, my fiancee told me that was naughty and I shouldn't say that.
So, I'm stuck in this situation now with the doss house over the road regularly spurting out very loud music, late at night, with groups of teenagers walking in and out of the building, making a racket, and acting 'hard' with each other.
I open this up to the PH massive to give me some suggestions as to what I can do about this! What can I do?
Fire away all.
Since they moved in a month ago there have been regular bouts of insanely loud music (so loud the windows have been vibrating) late at night, loads of drunken teenage fools hanging around outside, arguments and nearly fights outside the front door, and stupid cars with stupidly loud exhausts (not nice engine noise, the usual Shatso and Fiesta s
t) pulling up outside and revving the engine.After two weeks of this I got a bit miffed and called the police, this was two weeks ago today actually. They said that they couldn't do anything as it is a 'civil' matter. They suggested I go to the council.
Went to the council last week and was told that I would need to make an appointment for a week's time to speak to someone. WTF! The buggers at the council spotted the fact that we had UPVC windows installed one weekend last year (we didn't realise we had to have them checked and pay a tax, sorry 'fee' for this). But I couldn't see anyone on a Weds morning to complain about antisocial behaviour.
Anyway, I was in a rush on Weds as I had a funeral to attend so I left the council after waiting for 20mins and was told to ring them for an appointment.
When I originally rang the police I was going to say something that would get them there. Something along the lines of the fact that the scroates had a weapon (the chap at the council on reception even told me to say this). But, my fiancee told me that was naughty and I shouldn't say that.
So, I'm stuck in this situation now with the doss house over the road regularly spurting out very loud music, late at night, with groups of teenagers walking in and out of the building, making a racket, and acting 'hard' with each other.
I open this up to the PH massive to give me some suggestions as to what I can do about this! What can I do?
Fire away all.
Edited by funkyrobot on Friday 13th March 09:34
Keep a record of each and every time there is a nuisance.
i.e. Friday 13 March - 8pm loud car arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
After two weeks you will have plenty of examples to give a copy to the council for them to take action. Have you chatted to any neighbours as well to see if they are just as peeved? If so, get them to keep a record as well (there may be all sorts of things going on whilst you are out at work as well).
Also, are they renting or have they bought? (My first guess, and bring on the flamers is that they are being put up in rented by the council having been chucked out of somewhere else). If renting, the landlord can be liable as well, a stroppy letter to them including a record of the nuisance should get them evicted.
i.e. Friday 13 March - 8pm loud car arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
After two weeks you will have plenty of examples to give a copy to the council for them to take action. Have you chatted to any neighbours as well to see if they are just as peeved? If so, get them to keep a record as well (there may be all sorts of things going on whilst you are out at work as well).
Also, are they renting or have they bought? (My first guess, and bring on the flamers is that they are being put up in rented by the council having been chucked out of somewhere else). If renting, the landlord can be liable as well, a stroppy letter to them including a record of the nuisance should get them evicted.
Jasandjules said:
Keep a record of each and every time there is a nuisance.
i.e. Friday 13 March - 8pm loud car arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
After two weeks you will have plenty of examples to give a copy to the council for them to take action. Have you chatted to any neighbours as well to see if they are just as peeved? If so, get them to keep a record as well (there may be all sorts of things going on whilst you are out at work as well).
I don't get this. Just make it up?i.e. Friday 13 March - 8pm loud car arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
After two weeks you will have plenty of examples to give a copy to the council for them to take action. Have you chatted to any neighbours as well to see if they are just as peeved? If so, get them to keep a record as well (there may be all sorts of things going on whilst you are out at work as well).
Here. Copy this.
1/3/09 - 7pm loud Saxo arrives. 8pm loud music starts.
2/3/09 - 8pm loud Punto arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
3/3/09 - 6pm loud Saxo arrives. 7pm loud music starts.
4/3/09 - 8pm loud Punto arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
5/3/09 - 7pm loud Fiesta arrives. 7.30pm loud music starts.
6/3/09 - 8pm loud Fiesta arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
7/3/09 - 5pm loud Saxo arrives. 6.45pm loud music starts.
8/3/09 - 8pm loud Fiesta arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
9/3/09 - 8pm loud Punto arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
10/3/09 - 8pm loud Saxo arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
The council will have a noise pollution department (or something like that) who will deal with anti-social behaviour and loud residents.
Look on the council website and get the appropriate phone number - you should be able to do it all by post and phone.
They should send you out a booklet on noise and what can be done, and also a noise log. MAKE SURE YOU FILL IT IN.
Good luck - noisy anti-social neighbours are awful
Look on the council website and get the appropriate phone number - you should be able to do it all by post and phone.
They should send you out a booklet on noise and what can be done, and also a noise log. MAKE SURE YOU FILL IT IN.
Good luck - noisy anti-social neighbours are awful
You have my sympathy, my partner had neighbours from hell; loud music, lots of yoofs coming and going (turned out he was a minor drug dealer - drug squad raided the house at one point), banging on the walls, and threats to all of us including a threat to stab my dog. 9yr old daughter had self defence lessons from a cop after she was threatened. We went away for the weekend to come back to every downstairs window smeared with baby poo.
It was a private rental and it took about a year to get rid of them and one court appearance. Police came several times but they just shut up till the cops went - they got caught out when two officers came (including the local inspector) but they got a call and the PC went off in the car but next door didn't realise that one was still in the house.
It was a private rental and it took about a year to get rid of them and one court appearance. Police came several times but they just shut up till the cops went - they got caught out when two officers came (including the local inspector) but they got a call and the PC went off in the car but next door didn't realise that one was still in the house.
Jasandjules said:
Keep a record of each and every time there is a nuisance.
i.e. Friday 13 March - 8pm loud car arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
After two weeks you will have plenty of examples to give a copy to the council for them to take action. Have you chatted to any neighbours as well to see if they are just as peeved? If so, get them to keep a record as well (there may be all sorts of things going on whilst you are out at work as well).
Also, are they renting or have they bought? (My first guess, and bring on the flamers is that they are being put up in rented by the council having been chucked out of somewhere else). If renting, the landlord can be liable as well, a stroppy letter to them including a record of the nuisance should get them evicted.
A mate did this when he had noisy neighbours move in the flat above him. He owned his flat and they were renting. Took a few months and letters, etc to the landlord but they did get kicked out eventually.i.e. Friday 13 March - 8pm loud car arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
After two weeks you will have plenty of examples to give a copy to the council for them to take action. Have you chatted to any neighbours as well to see if they are just as peeved? If so, get them to keep a record as well (there may be all sorts of things going on whilst you are out at work as well).
Also, are they renting or have they bought? (My first guess, and bring on the flamers is that they are being put up in rented by the council having been chucked out of somewhere else). If renting, the landlord can be liable as well, a stroppy letter to them including a record of the nuisance should get them evicted.
No, don't make it up, keep a record of what actually happened. That can stand as evidence. Having been on the other end of this with dogs barking 24/7 I am advising the OP to act as the council advised me. Once you send them the record of events they can take action. And they do have noise abatement officers who can remove the sound systems etc..
ShadownINja said:
Jasandjules said:
Keep a record of each and every time there is a nuisance.
i.e. Friday 13 March - 8pm loud car arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
After two weeks you will have plenty of examples to give a copy to the council for them to take action. Have you chatted to any neighbours as well to see if they are just as peeved? If so, get them to keep a record as well (there may be all sorts of things going on whilst you are out at work as well).
I don't get this. Just make it up?i.e. Friday 13 March - 8pm loud car arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
After two weeks you will have plenty of examples to give a copy to the council for them to take action. Have you chatted to any neighbours as well to see if they are just as peeved? If so, get them to keep a record as well (there may be all sorts of things going on whilst you are out at work as well).
Here. Copy this.
1/3/09 - 7pm loud Saxo arrives. 8pm loud music starts.
2/3/09 - 8pm loud Punto arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
3/3/09 - 6pm loud Saxo arrives. 7pm loud music starts.
4/3/09 - 8pm loud Punto arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
5/3/09 - 7pm loud Fiesta arrives. 7.30pm loud music starts.
6/3/09 - 8pm loud Fiesta arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
7/3/09 - 5pm loud Saxo arrives. 6.45pm loud music starts.
8/3/09 - 8pm loud Fiesta arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
9/3/09 - 8pm loud Punto arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
10/3/09 - 8pm loud Saxo arrives. 9pm loud music starts.
I am actually keeping a record and should complete it this weekend. I'll then edit it up and hand it to the council.
The record is already something like this:
Friday 20th Feb - 11.30 - 3.00 am (ish) - loud music, people on the street, aggression. Loud car sat outside whilst being revved.
Saturday 21st Feb - 9.30 - 3.30 am (ish) - loud music, teenagers shouting on the street, aggression again.
Sunday 22nd Feb - 3.00pm - loud music, people shouting.
23 - 27th Feb - After 6pm - cars pulling up outside with loud exhausts, music also blaring out. Teenagers banging on door.
Friday 27th/Sat 28th Feb - 10.00pm til late - loiud music, teenagers on street shouting, nearly a fight. Called the police at 12.10am (Sat morning) and complained.
2nd - 6th March - after 6pm - random cars, loud exhausts, music pumping out. Kids banging on door etc etc.
Friday 6th March - from 9pm - loud gathering of teenagers/scroates. Loud music, shouting etc.
Last night when I got home I saw the most stereotypical chav girl i've ever seen. Black trainers, grey tracksuit bottoms, large dirty coat, and she looked so thick! She was banging on the door too to the house for a while.
and so on...
I have spoken to one of our immediate neighbours and he says that he hasn't heard the noise. WTF! But, he does own a shop that sells cheap booze and i've seen the scroates in there cashing in their giros on his wares. I may ask around the other houses though, their neighbours should have heard it.
The crazy thing is that the chap who was on reception at the council (and was actually helpful) said he lives near us. He thought the local pub were having a disco on or something as it was that loud!! So he heard it! I think thats why he became extra helpful lol.
Thanks for the more immediately helpful suggestions. I wouldn't condone anything that uses flammable liquids, but it may work
!P.S I am pretty sure the house is rented and actually thought the other day about getting a letter sent to the actual house owner.
You say they are renting the house, have you contacted the owner/landlord and had a word? Maybe he's a decent chap who doesn't want a bunch of pikey s renting it - could be worth a try.
Don't know why the Police say they can't do anything, maybe you should pick your moment to call them.
The "professional footballer" renting the house opposite mine woke us up on Sunday morning at 530 as he threw his girlfriend's two friends out of the house and stood in the street screaming and swearing at them. I called the police, explained there was a domestic going on in the house opposite that had spilt out onto the street and looked like it could get violent. I was told I was the 3rd or 4th person to call them so may be worth having a word with your other neighbours and seeing if this is bothering them too. Less than 5 minutes later the police turned up, 3 officers in a car (as this is PH I should say it was an e90 3 series diesel, no idea if it was mapped and I assume the rear seats were not down as there was someone in the back).
Of course being a nosy bd I was looking through the crack in the curtains and watching what was going on. The two "evictees" were sent packing in a taxi as they were too pissed to drive (watched the breathalyser test), 90 minutes later the police left and we went back to bed.
Happy to say there has been no noise since. It's a nice road in a nice neighbourhood and problems like this should be stopped straight away before people think they can get away with it.
s renting it - could be worth a try.Don't know why the Police say they can't do anything, maybe you should pick your moment to call them.
The "professional footballer" renting the house opposite mine woke us up on Sunday morning at 530 as he threw his girlfriend's two friends out of the house and stood in the street screaming and swearing at them. I called the police, explained there was a domestic going on in the house opposite that had spilt out onto the street and looked like it could get violent. I was told I was the 3rd or 4th person to call them so may be worth having a word with your other neighbours and seeing if this is bothering them too. Less than 5 minutes later the police turned up, 3 officers in a car (as this is PH I should say it was an e90 3 series diesel, no idea if it was mapped and I assume the rear seats were not down as there was someone in the back).
Of course being a nosy b
d I was looking through the crack in the curtains and watching what was going on. The two "evictees" were sent packing in a taxi as they were too pissed to drive (watched the breathalyser test), 90 minutes later the police left and we went back to bed. Happy to say there has been no noise since. It's a nice road in a nice neighbourhood and problems like this should be stopped straight away before people think they can get away with it.
B3Svert said:
You say they are renting the house, have you contacted the owner/landlord and had a word? Maybe he's a decent chap who doesn't want a bunch of pikey s renting it - could be worth a try.
I was just going to suggest this too, find out who the landlord is. They will probably be breaching the terms set in their contract...s renting it - could be worth a try.I have a slightly different tack on this. Anything you do against this lot will come back and haunt you, cars scratched etc. So be careful, dont ever confront them, and be careful if they see you taking notes etc. Also be careful who you discuss it with locally, remember you live there and they know you have invested in your community, they have and will not.
My approach would be the ladlord and the managing agents responsible for putting the scroates in there. Write annonymously to the landlord asking him or her to sort it out, for everyone's sake. He is taking money from them, or the soash, so he should have some responsibility to their behaviour.
If not, then make some nuisance for said landlord.
Things like turning up early hours and shouting like a drunk about him stealing your missus or having killed your son etc, will soon get his neighbours a bit upset. Doughnuts on an enduro bike on his front lawn is a good one too. And nitromors vs nice car paint is no contest!
asically, make his life as miserable as yours has become and hopefully it will make him take some notice. These scroates will never be responsible for their actions as to do so, you need to have some responsibilities, and these people dont. But the landlord proabbly will, and after all, he is the reason they are there as he rented it to them!!
My approach would be the ladlord and the managing agents responsible for putting the scroates in there. Write annonymously to the landlord asking him or her to sort it out, for everyone's sake. He is taking money from them, or the soash, so he should have some responsibility to their behaviour.
If not, then make some nuisance for said landlord.
Things like turning up early hours and shouting like a drunk about him stealing your missus or having killed your son etc, will soon get his neighbours a bit upset. Doughnuts on an enduro bike on his front lawn is a good one too. And nitromors vs nice car paint is no contest!
asically, make his life as miserable as yours has become and hopefully it will make him take some notice. These scroates will never be responsible for their actions as to do so, you need to have some responsibilities, and these people dont. But the landlord proabbly will, and after all, he is the reason they are there as he rented it to them!!
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