Flags outside houses

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HOGEPH

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5,249 posts

187 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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Why do Anerican houses/businesses with the Stars & Stripes hanging everywhere look patriotic, but English houses with the St George's Cross hanging outside look downmarket and chavvy?

Catz

4,812 posts

212 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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HOGEPH said:
Why do Anerican houses/businesses with the Stars & Stripes hanging everywhere look patriotic, but English houses with the St George's Cross hanging outside look downmarket and chavvy?
Because the St George Cross flag hangs outside houses that look downmarket and chavvy?

OllieC

3,816 posts

215 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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because its not de rigeur (ok i cant spell it) to be proud of the flag of our country ?

EDLT

15,421 posts

207 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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The Welsh hang a flag up quite a lot too, it must be an English thing.

Steamer

13,871 posts

214 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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HOGEPH said:
but English houses with the St George's Cross hanging outside look downmarket and chavvy?
You thought they might improve the aesthetics of the house maybe? yikes


cazzer

8,883 posts

249 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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Because they hang up proper expensive flags on actual flagpoles.
Not bedsheets with a red cross on em hanging from stolen washing lines.

Blib

44,291 posts

198 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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On most occasions that I see the flag of St. George flown I get a aura of aggresive defiance emanating from it. As if the person that hoisted it was barricaded in and was using the flag as a last, pityful attempt to keep the world away.

I see it invariably flown out of fear, incomprehension, dare I say it hatred of 'others' & utter, abject confusion about the state of that person's life and where he fits in the community that surrounds him.

On the other hand, the Stars and Stripes is flown as a celebration of America and the American Way. That being whatever the flag hoister wants it to be. The American flag, flown in the 'states, is, for the most part, inclusive of all of the citizens.

The Cross of St. George, seen flown, grubbily, from the upstairs window of a run down terrace house is a sign of bitter deafeat.

(I could be making this all up).

FourWheelDrift

88,631 posts

285 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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Catz said:
HOGEPH said:
Why do Anerican houses/businesses with the Stars & Stripes hanging everywhere look patriotic, but English houses with the St George's Cross hanging outside look downmarket and chavvy?
Because the St George Cross flag hangs outside houses that look downmarket and chavvy?
Not all of them.




Many old houses and estates fly flags. Including that old house down the road from Trafalgar Sq in London.

jamesc_1729

468 posts

190 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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There's a house about a mile away from me which I drive past every day on the way to work.
It always used to have 2 massive st George cross flags hanging on the side of it. Fair enough.
Few months ago I got that link sent to me where you find out which people in your area are BNP supporters.
Can you guess where this is going?

OllieC

3,816 posts

215 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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Blib said:
The American flag, flown in the 'states, is, for the most part, inclusive of all of the citizens.
so why cant the English flag be flown in this manner ?

just a statement, not arguing, you post made me smile, in a good way smile

Steamer

13,871 posts

214 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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jamesc_1729 said:
There's a house about a mile away from me which I drive past every day on the way to work.
It always used to have 2 massive st George cross flags hanging on the side of it. Fair enough.
Few months ago I got that link sent to me where you find out which people in your area are BNP supporters.
Can you guess where this is going?
Did the BIG red cross mark the spot? hehe

port and polish

290 posts

184 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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I heared of English people being asked to take the flags down during the world cup (or sim) because they were deemed to be offensive. I may have dreamt this but I am sure I didn't. It may have been in Stoke when I lived there?

GPSS

694 posts

212 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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Blib said:
On most occasions that I see the flag of St. George flown I get a aura of aggresive defiance emanating from it. As if the person that hoisted it was barricaded in and was using the flag as a last, pityful attempt to keep the world away.

I see it invariably flown out of fear, incomprehension, dare I say it hatred of 'others' & utter, abject confusion about the state of that person's life and where he fits in the community that surrounds him.

On the other hand, the Stars and Stripes is flown as a celebration of America and the American Way. That being whatever the flag hoister wants it to be. The American flag, flown in the 'states, is, for the most part, inclusive of all of the citizens.

The Cross of St. George, seen flown, grubbily, from the upstairs window of a run down terrace house is a sign of bitter deafeat.

It could be they just dont like immigrants.

(I could be making this all up).

OllieC

3,816 posts

215 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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pride in being English is sadly now equated to BNP membership. shame frown

Fat Richie

1,271 posts

219 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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We need planning permission to put a flagpole in our front gardens, our transatlantic cousins seem to be able to do so without filling in a small rain-forest of forms.

v9 ogre

413 posts

185 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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OllieC said:
pride in being English is sadly now equated to BNP membership. shame frown
Ollie you are so right!

I will fly my flag and god damn the 8astards!.......
Cumbria the last bastion of England!

Catz

4,812 posts

212 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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This is going to sound a bit unPC ... however, being Scottish, my younger memories of seeing the George Cross was when it was slung round the shoulders of shaven headed football casuals.

A little bit of me still thinks of that when I see a George Cross hanging from a window. I imagine the people inside to have homemade tattoos, 8 kids, be on benefits and own a few pitbulls.

My stereotyping is now done! wink


It's a bit different if the flag is flying from a proper flagpole outside an old English county house.

port and polish

290 posts

184 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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v9 ogre said:
OllieC said:
pride in being English is sadly now equated to BNP membership. shame frown
Ollie you are so right!

I will fly my flag and god damn the 8astards!.......
Cumbria the last bastion of England!
Good for you mate. I fly my Dragon with pride. So should you good Englishies.

AF1

309 posts

203 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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OllieC said:
pride in being English is sadly now equated to BNP membership. shame frown
BNP have ruined Englandism( hope this is a new saying i've just made up). If i had a suitably large house i'd fly the flag!

whitechief

4,423 posts

196 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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Fat Richie said:
We need planning permission to put a flagpole in our front gardens, our transatlantic cousins seem to be able to do so without filling in a small rain-forest of forms.
I believe you are allowed a single free standing flagpole without planning permission.
ETA as long as it used to display a national flag and not advertising.

Edited by whitechief on Wednesday 18th March 23:37