Removing a Toilet

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speedchick

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5,181 posts

223 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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I have googled this, but keep coming up with ways of removing a toilet in order to fit a new one, which is not what we are wanting to do.

We have a downstairs toilet, and it's more trouble than it's worth (the overflow isn't connected to anything, and the cistern has now developed a hairline crack under the handle, so we have some, small amount of seepage), anyway, we have decided that instead of fixing it, we are going to take it out and utilise the space better.

So I know how to turn the water off, how to empty the cistern, and have just read up on how to remove the bowl itself, but the sticking bit is what the heck do I do with the soil pipe? Obviously this goes down to the sewer, and I can't find any information as to what I do or don't do in order to block it off. Like I say all the instructions I could find were removing in order to fit a new one.

Is there some sort of pipe cap or something that I need to put on there to shut the soil pipe and keep smells etc out, or do I use something else?

Many thanks in advance smile

GreatGranny

9,155 posts

227 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Does it go out horizontally through the wall?

You could just cut it off as close to the wall as possible and then cap it off.

Or cut it off at the soil pipe and then cap it off.

Why don't you just replace it with a cheap B&Q/Wickes one, they are only £60ish. Should be an easier job than removing it altogether.

phumy

5,676 posts

238 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Get yer hand down there to check that its clear and no obstructions, no gloves required. Then just cap it off.

You will have some wonderfully long finger nails after doing that.......you certainly wont be nibbling at them for a while hehe


Sorry, couldnt resist

Silent1

19,761 posts

236 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Edited by Silent1 on Thursday 19th March 09:54

speedchick

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Thursday 19th March 2009
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It goes out through the floor, will that make a difference?

As to replacing, to be honest, it was the downstairs toilet that sold me the house as I was 6 months pregnant at the time, although it is useful at times, now the kids are all growed up (well 11 ans 13 so way past potty training), I just feel that the space could be better used.

speedchick

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223 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Silent, not sure what you are getting at there, so I guess if you are insulting me, then it missed!

Just for the record, I am not some helpless female that can't do work around the house, I just wanted to know how to cap the pipe, and not have to resort to calling a man in!

Silent1

19,761 posts

236 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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speedchick said:
Silent, not sure what you are getting at there, so I guess if you are insulting me, then it missed!

Just for the record, I am not some helpless female that can't do work around the house, I just wanted to know how to cap the pipe, and not have to resort to calling a man in!
No, i'm suggesting you nuke it from orbit, not insulting you smile

MarkwG

4,868 posts

190 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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We've done the same: well, had the builders do it, whilst working on other stuff! Does the waste affect anything else? If not, fill it with a concrete mix, to cap it off. If it does, I'd get a plumber to check it, otherwise you may block off more than you bargain for!

zcacogp

11,239 posts

245 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Silent1 said:
No, i'm suggesting you nuke it from orbit, not insulting you smile
OK, I can get the orbit part, but what's the pretty young girl with wings and a halo got to do with nuking it?


Oli.

Silent1

19,761 posts

236 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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zcacogp said:
Silent1 said:
No, i'm suggesting you nuke it from orbit, not insulting you smile
OK, I can get the orbit part, but what's the pretty young girl with wings and a halo got to do with nuking it?


Oli.
So you don't see a picture saying circular orbit?

ETA. Oh FFS it's an anti hotlinking POS

Edited by Silent1 on Thursday 19th March 09:54

speedchick

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Thursday 19th March 2009
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Silent1 said:
speedchick said:
Silent, not sure what you are getting at there, so I guess if you are insulting me, then it missed!

Just for the record, I am not some helpless female that can't do work around the house, I just wanted to know how to cap the pipe, and not have to resort to calling a man in!
No, i'm suggesting you nuke it from orbit, not insulting you smile
Ah ok then, but doing that would render the entire space useless, not quite the effect I was going for! wink

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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You can buy a cap, apparently.

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/16026/Plumbing/Soil-...

Perhaps if you hunt around you'll find a flat one that's suitable.

Obviously what is important is that it is well sealed.

Surely what you want to do, though, is cap it off, cement it in and lay a new floor?

speedchick

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223 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Thanks for that Don, ermm hadn't thought about laying a new floor, we were just going to use the space for storage, (basically turning it into a kind of cupboard under the stairs type thing, that we can't have as we have open plan stairs) so a totally smooth floor isn't essential, I was thinking of putting some shelves or something against the wall that the toilet is fixed to.

paranha

633 posts

243 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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You can get a pvc blanking cap/disc from a builders merchants which will fit into the drain collar when you remove the pan.Seal with mastic to stop smells.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

240 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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cut the soil pipe as close as you can to the floor / wall. then smack it with a lump hammer to break off the excess. stuff some carrier bags into the hole , then fill it with concrete. not a builder but a bodger.hth

schmokin1

1,212 posts

213 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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the facility to easily hav e a downstairs toilet is a good selling point for the house (unless you have another one anyway) so maybe don't make it irreversible, just cap it off as suggested?

schmo

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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jas xjr said:
cut the soil pipe as close as you can to the floor / wall. then smack it with a lump hammer to break off the excess. stuff some carrier bags into the hole , then fill it with concrete. not a builder but a bodger.hth
Though leaving it in such a state that a future homeowner could reinstate it, might be good too?

zcacogp

11,239 posts

245 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Silent1 said:
So you don't see a picture saying circular orbit?

ETA. Oh FFS it's an anti hotlinking POS

Edited by Silent1 on Thursday 19th March 09:54
Ahhhh .... that explains it!

Fixed now. Shame, the girl was really quite attractive ... pity she was only about 14 ...


Oli.

steve_amv8

1,887 posts

211 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Personally I'd cap the pipe if you can hide it (maybe cutting it shorter) such that you could re-install at a later date if you wanted to.

You may not want it now, but that could change later on, either when selling the property or when you get older and would prefer not to go upstairs for the toilet!

d50cyx

282 posts

250 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Whatever you do, don't cut it off as close to the floor as you can, otherwise you'll never be able to attach a cap to it! You'll probably need an inch or so to attach it.

Chances are concrete will just slide into your sewer, and then you'll be in trouble...