Why is this happening?

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mackg

152 posts

181 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Size Nine Elm said:
Put in double glazing... and then turn the heating up.
This is the only sensible comment on hereclap if you have double glazing the cold air outside cannot touch the warm air inside thus stopping the condensation. Must be because he's a chim driversmile

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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mackg said:
Size Nine Elm said:
Put in double glazing... and then turn the heating up.
This is the only sensible comment on hereclap
rofl

furtive

4,498 posts

280 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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mackg said:
Size Nine Elm said:
Put in double glazing... and then turn the heating up.
This is the only sensible comment on hereclap if you have double glazing the cold air outside cannot touch the warm air inside thus stopping the condensation. Must be because he's a chim driversmile
I have (st barratt homes fitted) double glazing with wooden frames. I get condensation on my windows

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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furtive said:
mackg said:
Size Nine Elm said:
Put in double glazing... and then turn the heating up.
This is the only sensible comment on hereclap if you have double glazing the cold air outside cannot touch the warm air inside thus stopping the condensation. Must be because he's a chim driversmile
I have (st barratt homes fitted) double glazing with wooden frames. I get condensation on my windows
The thing is, it's got to go somewhere. If you heated the windows so the water couldn't condense onto them, then you'll get damp patches on the walls and stuff going mouldy.

eps

6,307 posts

270 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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mackg said:
Size Nine Elm said:
Put in double glazing... and then turn the heating up.
This is the only sensible comment on hereclap if you have double glazing the cold air outside cannot touch the warm air inside thus stopping the condensation. Must be because he's a chim driversmile
Apart from the fact that the OP states that the flat has double glazing...



You will lose more heat through glazing than walls (mostly), but the property is 1930s and probably lacks a cavity. Therefore, as it's a double aspect room where the problem is, the walls will also be leaking heat loads as well. It could be that if it's a top floor flat that the roof is also below par on insulation. The condensation then forms on the inner pane.. The OP needs to check trickle vents / airbricks and to try not to introduce moisture into the inside of the flat.. i.e. washing machine, tumble drier, shower, drying of clothes, etc..


DB7 pilot

501 posts

182 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Deva Link said:
mackg said:
Size Nine Elm said:
Put in double glazing... and then turn the heating up.
This is the only sensible comment on hereclap
rofl
+1 rofl

okgo

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38,238 posts

199 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Well last night I slept with the windows unfastened. So not open, but not airtight.

It wasn't noticably colder for doing so and stopped the condensation.

The issue I have also is that my third wall (one of th ones that isn't windows, but doesnt have the rad on it) leads onto a tiny room that only has a toilet in it, and that room has no heating, so may aswell be an external wall. 3 external walls, two laden with glass, all that is bound to add up to a cold hehe

x type

913 posts

191 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detai...

sorted my daughters room which had same problem
which has double glazing and radiator

theboyfold

10,927 posts

227 months

Thursday 31st December 2009
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furtive said:
I'll let you know when mine arrives tongue out
Did you order one then? How are you getting on with it?

furtive

4,498 posts

280 months

Thursday 31st December 2009
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Yup, works great. My windows are clear now...

okgo

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38,238 posts

199 months

Thursday 31st December 2009
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furtive said:
Yup, works great. My windows are clear now...
Just bought one. Ta.

What an odd time to come back online and update a thread about condensation hehe

theboyfold

10,927 posts

227 months

Friday 1st January 2010
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furtive said:
Yup, works great. My windows are clear now...
Out of interest do you leave your internal doors open at night or does it still work as well when they are closed?

furtive

4,498 posts

280 months

Friday 1st January 2010
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Leave them closed at night but open during the day. Seems to work ok like that.

CatherineJ

9,586 posts

244 months

Friday 1st January 2010
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trooperiziz said:
theboyfold said:
Mc lovin said:
You need more ventilation
I've got the same issue at home, how do you add ventilation without leaving the windows open all night?
Open the little ventilation strips at the top of the windows... wink
We have a similar issue to the op, although the condensation isn't that great. However our new windows (installed 2 years ago this February don't have vent strips). Is that not a little odd?

Simpo Two

85,735 posts

266 months

Friday 1st January 2010
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CatherineJ said:
However our new windows (installed 2 years ago this February don't have vent strips). Is that not a little odd?
I recently bought and installed three new windows, and none of those had vents so I guess the EU hasn't quite got round to making them compulsory yet.

CatherineJ

9,586 posts

244 months

Friday 1st January 2010
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Simpo Two said:
CatherineJ said:
However our new windows (installed 2 years ago this February don't have vent strips). Is that not a little odd?
I recently bought and installed three new windows, and none of those had vents so I guess the EU hasn't quite got round to making them compulsory yet.
It is odd because the old wooden windows (dating back to 2001 when the conversion was done) did have the little strips.

jjones

4,427 posts

194 months

Sunday 3rd January 2010
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mother in law had one of these type of systems

http://www.nuaire.co.uk/IandM/671104.pdf

installed, she has had chronic condensation for 2 years (since having the windows double glazed and the roof insulated). within 24 hours of the install (think it was £750) she has had no futher problems.

(2 bedroom detatched bungalow)

Edited by jjones on Sunday 3rd January 00:29


Edited by jjones on Sunday 3rd January 00:30

furtive

4,498 posts

280 months

Monday 4th January 2010
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furtive said:
Leave them closed at night but open during the day. Seems to work ok like that.
Update to my previous posts - it works like that if the unit is kept in the room that has the problem, but not if it is in a different room. And it's too noisy to have on in a bedroom.

theboyfold

10,927 posts

227 months

Monday 4th January 2010
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furtive said:
furtive said:
Leave them closed at night but open during the day. Seems to work ok like that.
Update to my previous posts - it works like that if the unit is kept in the room that has the problem, but not if it is in a different room. And it's too noisy to have on in a bedroom.
I picked up a unit over the weekend and it's good so far. It's also helped with drying the washing as it's too cold to have it outside!

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Monday 4th January 2010
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jjones said:
mother in law had one of these type of systems

http://www.nuaire.co.uk/IandM/671104.pdf

installed, she has had chronic condensation for 2 years (since having the windows double glazed and the roof insulated). within 24 hours of the install (think it was £750) she has had no futher problems.

(2 bedroom detatched bungalow)
Seen those before, but surely, in cold weather and with a well insulated loft, they might as well just be taking air straight from outside? Opening the windows would have the same effect.