Is this flue position illegal??
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I'm a little disappointed that Gas Safe haven't acted on this, but by way of information here is the 'declaration' section from a boiler Benchmark Certificate which the BCO SHOULD be interested in:
The second one down is, of course, the one you need to be sure of. The problem you are most likely to have is with a manufacturers warranty. The products of combustion these days are pretty clean (although incomplete combustion is still a possibility) so it wouldn't worry me personally except for the plume issues.
The second one down is, of course, the one you need to be sure of. The problem you are most likely to have is with a manufacturers warranty. The products of combustion these days are pretty clean (although incomplete combustion is still a possibility) so it wouldn't worry me personally except for the plume issues.
koolchris99 said:
Ours is here..
Next to a path,
not 2.1m
Next to a window..
But yours is next to a grass verge, not a path. Mine is discharging at waste height into the access down the side of the house, and is unguarded.Next to a path,
not 2.1m
Next to a window..
Is yours 300mm away from that window opening? If not then it's not installed as per regs.
TBH I'd be happy if he just stuck a 90deg elbow on the thing and a vertical lenth of flue so it discharges away from where we will be walking past and/or parking the car.
I might be blowing it out of proportion a bit but if it's wrong, it's bloody wrong.
I was a service technician for BG for near 25 yrs.
Building regs, in relation to Gas appliances , were looked at in the context of new builds.
The gas acts were what were referred to in installations in existing buildings.
As I recall it, there is not a problem with a low lying flue install (viz: for a floor standing boiler.) as long as the flue has a guard on it, and that it does not terminate into a covered area.
A covered area , being a car port (for example) (Open ends but covered roof)
The untidy making good is possibly down to the core drill disrupting the arched brickwork.
A lack of a flue guard at low level is only a notifiable situation, not a termination of supply.
Makers instructions, may not be a literal relation to installation practise, enforced by law, they may be their own sense of practise, (in their own interests).
P/S Termination onto own property ,(low level)is prefered, termination onto public rights of way could be problematical, as could be same onto a neighbours property, for obvious reasons.
Building regs, in relation to Gas appliances , were looked at in the context of new builds.
The gas acts were what were referred to in installations in existing buildings.
As I recall it, there is not a problem with a low lying flue install (viz: for a floor standing boiler.) as long as the flue has a guard on it, and that it does not terminate into a covered area.
A covered area , being a car port (for example) (Open ends but covered roof)
The untidy making good is possibly down to the core drill disrupting the arched brickwork.
A lack of a flue guard at low level is only a notifiable situation, not a termination of supply.
Makers instructions, may not be a literal relation to installation practise, enforced by law, they may be their own sense of practise, (in their own interests).
P/S Termination onto own property ,(low level)is prefered, termination onto public rights of way could be problematical, as could be same onto a neighbours property, for obvious reasons.
Edited by Cheese Mechanic on Thursday 8th April 08:29
dave_s13 said:
Busamav said:
Just ask for the vendor to have the boiler serviced by a suitably qualified Gas Safe " engineer " with a specific request for him to comment on the flue position.
That should throw up any problems for a cost under a £100.
Trouble is the thing was installed all of 6 weeks ago. It has a fresh certifcate of conformity (or whatever they're called) and as far as he's concerned that's that.That should throw up any problems for a cost under a £100.
I've asked our solicitor to request he either:-
1. report the issue to Gas Safe for inspection
2 Gets the flue moved/modified
3 £500 off sale price
I want him to notify Gas Safe - that way there is no cost involved to anyone but the installer - who should have done it right first time around.
This is of course assuming I have made a correct assumtion about the installation being incorrect.
Surprised really. I didn't want any money back, I'd have been happt for him to contact Gas Safe. It would have cost him nothing!!??
My parents recently had a new boiler.
They wanted it in the same place as the old one to minimise disruption. Flue exits like yours but near their back door just as their old one did. Installer also made a mess of the brickwork - he was a plumber not a builder....
It needs a cage over it to stop you banging your head.
I wouldn't worry about it unless you like to sit under it for long periods. Now go put the £500 towards a new car
EDIT: I'm not a gas installer or expert. Just noticed a few flues in my time
They wanted it in the same place as the old one to minimise disruption. Flue exits like yours but near their back door just as their old one did. Installer also made a mess of the brickwork - he was a plumber not a builder....
It needs a cage over it to stop you banging your head.
I wouldn't worry about it unless you like to sit under it for long periods. Now go put the £500 towards a new car
EDIT: I'm not a gas installer or expert. Just noticed a few flues in my time
Edited by was8v on Thursday 8th April 10:06
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