concreting on a driveway?
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Evening all.
Just a quick, I think, question. Due to having a shared driveway and a numpty neighbour who refuses to park on her side and as such forcing us to struggle in and out of the cars, I have need of laying a border curb type thing. The driveway is a fairly stony/pebble and tar based driveway. It's not a tarmac driveway, but it is similar. Digging it up has proved to be a right arse in the past due to all the stones in it and as such I don't want the hassle of trying to erect a low post and chain type fence.
So if I lay a row of bricks along the border in a concrete bed, is the concrete likely to stick? I don't want to lay a load of bricks only to find they come up/off and move a week later. I can post a pic of the drive in the morning when it's light if that would help.
Just a quick, I think, question. Due to having a shared driveway and a numpty neighbour who refuses to park on her side and as such forcing us to struggle in and out of the cars, I have need of laying a border curb type thing. The driveway is a fairly stony/pebble and tar based driveway. It's not a tarmac driveway, but it is similar. Digging it up has proved to be a right arse in the past due to all the stones in it and as such I don't want the hassle of trying to erect a low post and chain type fence.
So if I lay a row of bricks along the border in a concrete bed, is the concrete likely to stick? I don't want to lay a load of bricks only to find they come up/off and move a week later. I can post a pic of the drive in the morning when it's light if that would help.
You could paint lines instead!
Milky Bar Kid said:
Evening all.
Just a quick, I think, question. Due to having a shared driveway and a numpty neighbour who refuses to park on her side and as such forcing us to struggle in and out of the cars, I have need of laying a border curb type thing. The driveway is a fairly stony/pebble and tar based driveway. It's not a tarmac driveway, but it is similar. Digging it up has proved to be a right arse in the past due to all the stones in it and as such I don't want the hassle of trying to erect a low post and chain type fence.
So if I lay a row of bricks along the border in a concrete bed, is the concrete likely to stick? I don't want to lay a load of bricks only to find they come up/off and move a week later. I can post a pic of the drive in the morning when it's light if that would help.
Just a quick, I think, question. Due to having a shared driveway and a numpty neighbour who refuses to park on her side and as such forcing us to struggle in and out of the cars, I have need of laying a border curb type thing. The driveway is a fairly stony/pebble and tar based driveway. It's not a tarmac driveway, but it is similar. Digging it up has proved to be a right arse in the past due to all the stones in it and as such I don't want the hassle of trying to erect a low post and chain type fence.
So if I lay a row of bricks along the border in a concrete bed, is the concrete likely to stick? I don't want to lay a load of bricks only to find they come up/off and move a week later. I can post a pic of the drive in the morning when it's light if that would help.
Sounds like she wouldn't give a flying f
k about lines. :-/
Good luck with the situation.
PS You could buy an old 4x4 that is strong enough to... ahem... bump a car out of the way without receiving any worrying damage. After you've removed part of her bumper for the 10th time, she might be more careful. Just apologise each time for the "accident" and say you just misjudged things slightly.
k about lines. :-/Good luck with the situation.
PS You could buy an old 4x4 that is strong enough to... ahem... bump a car out of the way without receiving any worrying damage. After you've removed part of her bumper for the 10th time, she might be more careful. Just apologise each time for the "accident" and say you just misjudged things slightly.
Edited by ShadownINja on Saturday 6th March 20:51
Milky Bar Kid said:
So if I lay a row of bricks along the border in a concrete bed, is the concrete likely to stick? I don't want to lay a load of bricks only to find they come up/off and move a week later. I can post a pic of the drive in the morning when it's light if that would help.
photo might help. For the bricks to work the conc would have to be re-inforced and dowelled deep into the ground unless you cast a very big ugly lump of concrete. I'd go for your posts and chain option: posts o/o 50x50 SHS with a 200x200 shimmed base plate (offset if you're worried about boundary problems) and drill and grout/resin the studs into the ground.dave_s13 said:
Milky Bar Kid said:
So if I lay a row of bricks along the border in a concrete bed, is the concrete likely to stick?.
No chance. Post above sounds good but wouldn'it create a potential trip hazard?Sounds like post and chain link fence it is then. If I have to drill holes in the drive to put the pins/bolts into, would it be much more hassle to just put a 50-60mm core drill down instead and just sink steel posts into the ground under the drive?
PS, I'l post a pic up in a bit now the sunshine has come out.
Milky Bar Kid said:
Sounds like post and chain link fence it is then. If I have to drill holes in the drive to put the pins/bolts into, would it be much more hassle to just put a 50-60mm core drill down instead and just sink steel posts into the ground under the drive?
Depends what ground you have; yes, it's probably better to core drill.dave_s13 said:
Seems you're creating something that can potentially be fallen over or that could seriously ruin someone's day when they forget, don't see and drive over.
Have you tried having a word with her.
A pic of the drive would help.
Yes we have had a word with her, but she totally ignores us. We're talking about someone that plays music VERY loud until 2am, with all the windows and doors open with absolutely no regard to her neighbours. I'll ignore the constant door slamming, thundering up and down the stairs and screeching that also eminates from her house. I'll also ignore her leaving her car running for 20 minutes every morning with the radio full blast whilst the car defrosts.........like this morning at 6am.Have you tried having a word with her.
A pic of the drive would help.
The fence will be at least 2 foot high, if she manages to trip or drive over that then she is even more thick than she already makes out.
We own our drive not her, and I don't see why we should be prevented every day to park on our own land or access the garage because of her ignorance.
I will also be contacting her landlord today as clearly talking to our neighbour is proving fruitless. I wil lalso inform him of our intentions to divide the drive.
Stevenj214 said:
dave_s13 said:
Seems you're creating something that can potentially be fallen over or that could seriously ruin someone's day when they forget, don't see and drive over.
Like walls, fences, gates...Do you have injury-lawyers-4-u programmed on your speed dial too??
OP. Why not ask your question on the gardenlaw forum. I bet you there will be some reason or other why doing what you propose could end up making things worse for you somewhow.
dave_s13 said:
Stevenj214 said:
dave_s13 said:
Seems you're creating something that can potentially be fallen over or that could seriously ruin someone's day when they forget, don't see and drive over.
Like walls, fences, gates...Do you have injury-lawyers-4-u programmed on your speed dial too??
I get the impression you're not appreciating the PH "devils advocate" feature. Doesn't matter what you post on here, there will always be someone telling you to watch it.
Your very likely totally correct.
Take some pics of the before/after for us will ya. I find building stuff threads interesting!
Your very likely totally correct.
Take some pics of the before/after for us will ya. I find building stuff threads interesting!
Edited by dave_s13 on Monday 8th March 12:47
Why not try a simple line of 'cats eyes' down the boundary that can be glued to the existing surface.
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As has been said already, this thread is useless without pictures.
Secondly, what do your deeds say about access/parking?
I would also caution against putting in a low level marker of any sort, you are likely to find yourself liable as and when someone falls over it, drives into it. You can bh about how unfair that is if you like but you are still likely to find yourself liable. Make sure you keep renewing your buildings insurance policy....
Secondly, what do your deeds say about access/parking?
I would also caution against putting in a low level marker of any sort, you are likely to find yourself liable as and when someone falls over it, drives into it. You can b
h about how unfair that is if you like but you are still likely to find yourself liable. Make sure you keep renewing your buildings insurance policy....Piglet said:
As has been said already, this thread is useless without pictures.
Secondly, what do your deeds say about access/parking?
I would also caution against putting in a low level marker of any sort, you are likely to find yourself liable as and when someone falls over it, drives into it. You can bh about how unfair that is if you like but you are still likely to find yourself liable. Make sure you keep renewing your buildings insurance policy....
See, not just me that thinks it's not 100% straightforward.Secondly, what do your deeds say about access/parking?
I would also caution against putting in a low level marker of any sort, you are likely to find yourself liable as and when someone falls over it, drives into it. You can b
h about how unfair that is if you like but you are still likely to find yourself liable. Make sure you keep renewing your buildings insurance policy....It might be but with the information given it's not clear.
Postman would be my worry, it's not unheard of for them to get all claims direct after falling on an uneven bit of paving or whatever.
Sorry if it all sounds a bit Daily Mail.
That gardenlaw forum is great for questions like these. If you post it up with a picture someone on there with a beard will give you the low down.
I'd question what the Postman was doing in the driveway if he's fell or tripped over anything TBH. He has no need to be on the drive to reach our front door, he can do that via the public path outside and down our garden path. He can then continue on his way by cocking his leg over the dividing hedge that runs down our path like he does every morning 
As already stated, the fence will NOT be low, but around 2 foot high. It will not be a trip hazard.
I'll get t'other half to post a picture up.
As already stated, the fence will NOT be low, but around 2 foot high. It will not be a trip hazard.
I'll get t'other half to post a picture up.
So what are you planning to do? Put a fence or something similar where the white line is marked? 
When where the houses built? I suspect you may well find a covenant that says "no fences in the front" or something similar - modern estates often had them to make them look more open.
You really do need to check your deeds to ensure that she doesn't have a right of access over your drive, I'll go back and check your original post but I thought you described it as a shared driveway, if that is the case then which bit of it is shared? If it is shared rather than two drives being next door to each other unfenced then you need to leave free the bit that she has access over. If it is two driveways side by side then you're going to need to be inch perfect or to put the boundary structure on your land to avoid pissing her off. I suspect she's already pissed off by the white line!
Can you take another shot that shows her driveway as well to give it some context?
I'll say what I always say...boundary disputes are things for mugs and lawyers to get involved in - and many lawyers don't want to know! I've dealt with some and without fail there is always a point people would like to go back to and sort an issue out amicably...
When where the houses built? I suspect you may well find a covenant that says "no fences in the front" or something similar - modern estates often had them to make them look more open.
You really do need to check your deeds to ensure that she doesn't have a right of access over your drive, I'll go back and check your original post but I thought you described it as a shared driveway, if that is the case then which bit of it is shared? If it is shared rather than two drives being next door to each other unfenced then you need to leave free the bit that she has access over. If it is two driveways side by side then you're going to need to be inch perfect or to put the boundary structure on your land to avoid pissing her off. I suspect she's already pissed off by the white line!
Can you take another shot that shows her driveway as well to give it some context?
I'll say what I always say...boundary disputes are things for mugs and lawyers to get involved in - and many lawyers don't want to know! I've dealt with some and without fail there is always a point people would like to go back to and sort an issue out amicably...
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