concreting on a driveway?
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she only rents next door, and judging by her lack of response at our polite request to kindly park on her own drive, then I very much doubt she is bothered by the white line or even noticed it.
We are talking about someone who plays very loud music until 2am with all the doors and windows open whilst screeching in the garden. She also makes no effort in the upkeep of the property she rents, and the neighbours on the other side of her actualy mow the lawn to help keep the front tidy and respectable.
I will be obtaining another copy of the deeds, as what we have at the moment doesn't state any access rights or limits on what we can or can't put on the driveway as way of boundary. It does clearly show the boundary of our property / driveway though, not that it will mean anything I guess as to what we can or can't do.
I will also be contacting her landlord to have a polite word and explain our problem, and the possibility of defining the boundary a little more clearly if possible.
Thanks for you input though guys, much appreciated as always
We are talking about someone who plays very loud music until 2am with all the doors and windows open whilst screeching in the garden. She also makes no effort in the upkeep of the property she rents, and the neighbours on the other side of her actualy mow the lawn to help keep the front tidy and respectable.
I will be obtaining another copy of the deeds, as what we have at the moment doesn't state any access rights or limits on what we can or can't put on the driveway as way of boundary. It does clearly show the boundary of our property / driveway though, not that it will mean anything I guess as to what we can or can't do.
I will also be contacting her landlord to have a polite word and explain our problem, and the possibility of defining the boundary a little more clearly if possible.
Thanks for you input though guys, much appreciated as always
You can download a copy of the title and filed plan from here for a few quid http://www.landregistry.gov.uk/wps/portal/Property...
You may find a restriction in the title about fencing, it depends on the estate.
You need to look at the filed plan and see whether there are any shaded or hatched areas which you then compare to the wording in the title.
I suspect (but it's impossible to tell without better pictures/more info, that the splay at the road
end has access over it for both parties so whilst you own it your neighbour has a right of way over it (even if she listens to music loudly at 2am). Ditto your neighbour's part of the splay will have a right of way over it for your property. If this is the scenario then you won't be able to park on this section of the driveway (either of you) and you won't be able to fence it off regardless of their not being a fencing covenant. I suspect that's why the line deviates as you show it - I imagine the straight bit back from there is a space in front of your garage where you can park.
You may find a restriction in the title about fencing, it depends on the estate.
You need to look at the filed plan and see whether there are any shaded or hatched areas which you then compare to the wording in the title.
I suspect (but it's impossible to tell without better pictures/more info, that the splay at the road
end has access over it for both parties so whilst you own it your neighbour has a right of way over it (even if she listens to music loudly at 2am). Ditto your neighbour's part of the splay will have a right of way over it for your property. If this is the scenario then you won't be able to park on this section of the driveway (either of you) and you won't be able to fence it off regardless of their not being a fencing covenant. I suspect that's why the line deviates as you show it - I imagine the straight bit back from there is a space in front of your garage where you can park.
We've got an official copy of register of title, but the only thing it says is "The Transfer dated ../../.... referred to above contains provisions as to light or air and boundary structures." There's nothing else specific about fences or boundaries at all. Will that transfer be on the title deeds?
It also has a coloured copy of the title plan, and both driveways curve the same at their road ends. Does this mean that the driveways are likely to be seperate but next to each other? I don't think they can be shared anyway as the garage was built with the house so surley couldn't have been built on a shared drive? There are no shaded or coloured patches at all on the plan, just the red line around our property. I would show you a scan of it, but that will have to wait for tomorrow when Maz is at work and has access to a scanner.
Oh, and yes, the white line is the intended place for the fence to go as we have put it were we believe the boundary is. It will also give her next door a hint of what is coming, if she notices it at all. Cheers for all the help by the way!
It also has a coloured copy of the title plan, and both driveways curve the same at their road ends. Does this mean that the driveways are likely to be seperate but next to each other? I don't think they can be shared anyway as the garage was built with the house so surley couldn't have been built on a shared drive? There are no shaded or coloured patches at all on the plan, just the red line around our property. I would show you a scan of it, but that will have to wait for tomorrow when Maz is at work and has access to a scanner.
Oh, and yes, the white line is the intended place for the fence to go as we have put it were we believe the boundary is. It will also give her next door a hint of what is coming, if she notices it at all. Cheers for all the help by the way!
Edited by Milky Bar Kid on Monday 8th March 22:24
t out of her so she moves away ....
dave_s13 said:
Stevenj214 said:
dave_s13 said:
Seems you're creating something that can potentially be fallen over or that could seriously ruin someone's day when they forget, don't see and drive over.
Like walls, fences, gates...Do you have injury-lawyers-4-u programmed on your speed dial too??
Bollards or cubes? They wouldn't have to start from the end of the driveway (and thus restricting your own parking space) but strategically placed they would deter Miss Slob next door from straying onto your area. They look quite nice as well painted white. As she doesn't seem to care about the property i'd be wary of putting up a fence or any type of wall that can easily be driven into and damaged - i assume it's going to be a pain to chase her, or the Landlord, for money.
Edited by fido on Tuesday 9th March 14:46
monthefish said:
What speed was the wooden post doing at the time of the collision?
Quite.If she is renting the property, you have spoken to her and things have not changed then contacting her Landlord should be your next action. Secondly, if she is causing a nuisance at unsociable hours then you shouldn't ignore it. I would give her one last chance and politely say to her to be aware of the time of day when she is coming and going. If she still ignores you then contact both the Landlord and the Local Council.
monthefish said:
dave_s13 said:
Stevenj214 said:
dave_s13 said:
Seems you're creating something that can potentially be fallen over or that could seriously ruin someone's day when they forget, don't see and drive over.
Like walls, fences, gates...Do you have injury-lawyers-4-u programmed on your speed dial too??
pi$$ off You live and learn.
This simple matter of a bit of concrete on the driveway isn't so straightforward after all is it?
Edited by dave_s13 on Wednesday 10th March 18:10
Milky Bar Kid said:
dave_s13 said:
Milky Bar Kid said:
So if I lay a row of bricks along the border in a concrete bed, is the concrete likely to stick?.
No chance. Post above sounds good but wouldn'it create a potential trip hazard?Sounds like post and chain link fence it is then. If I have to drill holes in the drive to put the pins/bolts into, would it be much more hassle to just put a 50-60mm core drill down instead and just sink steel posts into the ground under the drive?
PS, I'l post a pic up in a bit now the sunshine has come out.
Once you drill the ground you may find it is just well compacted planings or something similar. Then your post and chain idea would be much more viable, i cant see the point in using bolts and resin if the ground formation is not substantial enough?
mat.parr said:
Once you drill the ground you may find it is just well compacted planings or something similar. Then your post and chain idea would be much more viable, i cant see the point in using bolts and resin if the ground formation is not substantial enough?
Yes, see p1 post5. That's why we had the grout alternative.The ground under the driveway is most likely to be a layer of sand, then soil/mud and all the usual crap that builders tend to leave behind and build over. It was when we dug the edge to lay all the slate down. Driving posts into the floor deep enough to be secure shouldn't be a problem, so I don't think there's any need to go for the grout or chemical bonding stuff.
Should I need them, is there an equivalent to Metpost bases for metal, rather than wooden, posts?
Should I need them, is there an equivalent to Metpost bases for metal, rather than wooden, posts?
Well quick update on this.
A fence (of posts and chain) will be going up over the weekend, there is nothing in the deeds that say we cannot do this nor that she has any access/right of way.
Over the last two days she has been on our property and claimed our recycling bins for herself, replacing ours with her battered and broken ones. My other half claimed ours back yesterday, but again this morning she has been back on to our land and swapped them over.
Not only shall we be having a 'polite' word with her, but we will now also be contacting her landlord direct.
A fence (of posts and chain) will be going up over the weekend, there is nothing in the deeds that say we cannot do this nor that she has any access/right of way.
Over the last two days she has been on our property and claimed our recycling bins for herself, replacing ours with her battered and broken ones. My other half claimed ours back yesterday, but again this morning she has been back on to our land and swapped them over.
Not only shall we be having a 'polite' word with her, but we will now also be contacting her landlord direct.
coolcatmaz said:
Over the last two days she has been on our property and claimed our recycling bins for herself, replacing ours with her battered and broken ones. My other half claimed ours back yesterday, but again this morning she has been back on to our land and swapped them over.
Not only shall we be having a 'polite' word with her, but we will now also be contacting her landlord direct.
As crap as it looks, have you considered painting your house number on the bins? You can get "alright" looking decals and stencils for them - muchbetter than just spraying the number on! Not only shall we be having a 'polite' word with her, but we will now also be contacting her landlord direct.
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