Filling holes so you can't tell...

Filling holes so you can't tell...

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Pupp

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12,228 posts

273 months

Friday 2nd April 2010
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Have removed a couple of bannister rails that were fixed to a plastered wall, and am struggling to satisfactorily fill and smooth the resulting impressions that were left by the round brackets.... seems like no matter how much I fill and scrape/sand, there is still a round telltale coming through. Want a white satin emulsion finish and this seems to show every imperfection. Any ideas?

Simpo Two

85,484 posts

266 months

Friday 2nd April 2010
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The trick for me is to use a filler that's not too hard, and to smooth it perfectly flat before it dries. Too often people pile the filler high and can never get it flat agin - especially if it's harder than the surrounding wall.

Butter knife... saliva.

Spudler

3,985 posts

197 months

Friday 2nd April 2010
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Artex.

robinhood21

30,780 posts

233 months

Friday 2nd April 2010
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Scrape around the hole and make sure that there are no high-spots. Then over-fill and rub down when filler is completely dry. Then fill again to make sure that you fill any imperfections. Once dry and re-sanded, touch up filler with a couple of thinned coats before re-coating the whole wall.

Edited by robinhood21 on Saturday 3rd April 09:18

b2hbm

1,291 posts

223 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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Use a light filler so it's above the wall level, sand it down with production paper laid over a block of wood which is longer than the hole you're trying to fill. The new filler, even if you leave it for a couple of days, will be softer than the existing plaster and thus easier to remove. A wooden or rubber block will keep the line of the original wall.

Glassman

22,541 posts

216 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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Spudler said:
Artex.
hehe

Super Fresco

Spudler

3,985 posts

197 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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Glassman said:
Spudler said:
Artex.
hehe

Super Fresco
....or woodchip!!smile


Actually, i was being serious suggesting Artex (other st ceiling coverings are available) as a decorator said they use it for fine filling and imperfections.
Can also be added to emulsion to give a thicker covering.
smile

Glassman

22,541 posts

216 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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I think the OP's problem is that (if I've got this right) he's filling the hole / recessed area. He'll get a better result by spreading over and around the area and then rub down to a smooth finish... on the proviso that his wall is flat.

dickymint

24,370 posts

259 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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Dig out the crap you've put in (or cut out the plaster board if there is a batten or wall behind). gob up the hole with bonding plaster or cut and insert new piece of plaster board. Then plaster over this and feather in to the surrounding wall. Pain in the arse for small areas but a proper job.

annodomini2

6,862 posts

252 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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Would recommend Wickes lightweight filler got recommended it by a mate in the trade, claiming it was the best stuff on the market.

Can say from experience, doesn't crack and doesn't expand.

mackg

152 posts

181 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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get a product called Easyfill, b&q sell it, it rubs down very easily for a good finish

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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Pollyfilla. The stuff you mix yourself (sands very easily to a good finish).

With a filling knife fill cover the area slightly proud of the finished surface and allow to dry completely.

Get some sandpaper and wrap it round a straight edge, piece of 2" x 2" timber about a foot long and draw it back and forth over the area until the only filler you can see remaining is filling the damaged area.


Edited by B17NNS on Saturday 3rd April 15:50

Simpo Two

85,484 posts

266 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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B17NNS said:
Pollyfilla. The stuff you mix yourself (sands very easily to a good finish).
Unlike the stuff in tubes, which has got some kind of plastic polymer in it. Horrible.

monthefish

20,443 posts

232 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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annodomini2 said:
Would recommend Wickes lightweight filler got recommended it by a mate in the trade, claiming it was the best stuff on the market.
Which one?

A search of 'lightweight filler' on Wickes' website returns nothing..

Edited by monthefish on Tuesday 6th April 14:37

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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Simpo Two said:
B17NNS said:
Pollyfilla. The stuff you mix yourself (sands very easily to a good finish).
Unlike the stuff in tubes, which has got some kind of plastic polymer in it. Horrible.
it is nasty stuff. It's like trying to sand silicone.

annodomini2

6,862 posts

252 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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monthefish said:
annodomini2 said:
Would recommend Wickes lightweight filler got recommended it by a mate in the trade, claiming it was the best stuff on the market.

Which one?

A search of 'lightweight filler' on Wickes' website returns nothing..
Will double check when I get home, might have been rebranded or dropped.

monthefish

20,443 posts

232 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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annodomini2 said:
monthefish said:
annodomini2 said:
Would recommend Wickes lightweight filler got recommended it by a mate in the trade, claiming it was the best stuff on the market.
Which one?

A search of 'lightweight filler' on Wickes' website returns nothing..
Will double check when I get home, might have been rebranded or dropped.
Ta.

Simpo Two

85,484 posts

266 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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B&Q also do one in a large tub/bucket - pale grey, very good indeed. However I think of it as more a 'small area plaster' than a hole filler. Because it's grey it does take a coat or two of paint to cover over.

Rgee

248 posts

248 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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monthefish said:
annodomini2 said:
Would recommend Wickes lightweight filler got recommended it by a mate in the trade, claiming it was the best stuff on the market.
Which one?

A search of 'lightweight filler' on Wickes' website returns nothing..

Edited by monthefish on Tuesday 6th April 14:37
It's Wickes Master Multi-Purpose Ready Mixed Interior & Exterior. When you pick it up it feels.............lightweight! Good stuff tho.

skeeterm5

3,356 posts

189 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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Polyfilla do a tub of pre-mixed plaster/filler mix which you apply like plaster. We used it and then a light sanding later it was perfect.

I found the trick was to fill the area about double the size of the whole and to try and 'feather' the edges and then sand back.

S