local pub decking cars park - planning question..
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MidlandDan84 said:
To be honest, all that has been discussed will be quickly picked up by the Planners at the LA, with what you have said i would be very very suprised if Planning Permission would be granted.
and then he ditches the idea of decking and puts more tables and chairs over the car park, leaving one space for his own motor !!!
SwanJack said:
MidlandDan84 said:
To be honest, all that has been discussed will be quickly picked up by the Planners at the LA, with what you have said i would be very very suprised if Planning Permission would be granted.
and then he ditches the idea of decking and puts more tables and chairs over the car park, leaving one space for his own motor !!!In addition it would only take a few well worded objections to the local council and the landlord could be in serious trouble.
MidlandDan84 said:
SwanJack said:
MidlandDan84 said:
To be honest, all that has been discussed will be quickly picked up by the Planners at the LA, with what you have said i would be very very suprised if Planning Permission would be granted.
and then he ditches the idea of decking and puts more tables and chairs over the car park, leaving one space for his own motor !!!In addition it would only take a few well worded objections to the local council and the landlord could be in serious trouble.
My local pub did the opposite, they improved the car parking to get more customers. I cannot see why the landlord in this instance would wish to take away the car park. It seems that it is nicely located pub that people would drive to. If they cant park when they get there, surely this would affect his trade.
Edited by SwanJack on Wednesday 7th April 20:59
SwanJack said:
MidlandDan84 said:
SwanJack said:
MidlandDan84 said:
To be honest, all that has been discussed will be quickly picked up by the Planners at the LA, with what you have said i would be very very suprised if Planning Permission would be granted.
and then he ditches the idea of decking and puts more tables and chairs over the car park, leaving one space for his own motor !!!In addition it would only take a few well worded objections to the local council and the landlord could be in serious trouble.
A reduction of 1 or 2 parking spaces maybe acceptable if justification can be produced that will prove that this will not cause any highway issues at peak periods, a parking survey maybe required.
However, if the pub is currently operating with say for example a 25 space car park and is well utilized then to remove 23 spaces would undoubtedly cause highway impacts and detriment to local amenity by the displaced parking.
Depends on the location but i have worked on similar small projects and any residents parking in the vicinity can sway decisions.
Another thing worth considering is his licensing, I would suspect his license application to sell alcohol is for the original pub with 20 spaces reducing this to 11 and providing or increasing the outside drinking area would require and new or amended application and so would further reducing / omitting the car park to provide a larger external drinking area.
I don't get too involved with this but have recently submitted a revised licensing application to remove a small area of seating and provide a children's play area in the corner of a pub / restaurant so they are quite specific.
As others have said in the post, as with any other business the planners will take an interest in car parking provision and depending on the age of the pub there may well be a planning condition requiring the car park as shown in the original planning consent to be retained, and available solely for the use of car parking at all times.
I don't get too involved with this but have recently submitted a revised licensing application to remove a small area of seating and provide a children's play area in the corner of a pub / restaurant so they are quite specific.
As others have said in the post, as with any other business the planners will take an interest in car parking provision and depending on the age of the pub there may well be a planning condition requiring the car park as shown in the original planning consent to be retained, and available solely for the use of car parking at all times.
CraigW said:
he's actually expanding the restaurant hugely as part of refurb.
Then they will definitely need adequate parking spaces.They probably reduced the parking spaces without contacting the Planning Authorities. This should be mentioned to the local planning dept.
If they persist in removing all of the parking spaces this should also be mentioned.
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