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Jasandjules

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69,947 posts

230 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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With those small aggressive dogs allow them to run at and snarl/snap at other dogs?

Gargamel

15,011 posts

262 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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and then get offended when my large dog snarls and snaps back at them.

Simpo Two

85,559 posts

266 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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'Thoughtless' and 'irresponsible' come to mind.

Works for any size dog, not just small ones.



Flame suit on eh?

Jasandjules

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230 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Gargamel said:
and then get offended when my large dog snarls and snaps back at them.
Well the last couple of times both have at least apologised but yesterday it was on a pavement in a town centre and the guy wasn't even watching his dog. Mine very, very nearly got it and it was only because I thought "rat on a stick will be aggressive" and put myself between it and my mutt that it survived.

Thing is if I had a dog that attacked like that I'd keep my eyes open at all times wherever dogs might be...

Who me ?

7,455 posts

213 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Jasandjules said:
Well the last couple of times both have at least apologised but yesterday it was on a pavement in a town centre and the guy wasn't even watching his dog. Mine very, very nearly got it and it was only because I thought "rat on a stick will be aggressive" and put myself between it and my mutt that it survived.

Thing is if I had a dog that attacked like that I'd keep my eyes open at all times wherever dogs might be...
Called "responsible dog ownership". I've got a medium sized terrier, who ( I think has not been socialised), and has also been attacked by larger breeds -Staffs ,anyone, and the odd Rottie, but he's got some very large GS mates, who accept him ,so is it a size thing, or aggression Quotient), so if I see anything he might kick off at, he's on lead. Rats on sticks, he ignores, even if they get funny.But most times they don't. He feels comfortable round them, and perhaps the "rats" get the message. The funny thing is that there's one old bloke on a disabled scooter who has a Staff. He ,till recently had a nasty Westie. Mine would give this female bit of nastiness a wide berth, though he could possibly sort her out. But he's a gent. But this Staff & him have no problems. No aggro - they just get on . Never really worked that one out.

Jasandjules

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69,947 posts

230 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Called "responsible dog ownership".
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I suppose that is really it in a nutshell.

I just struggle to understand people who just don't pay any attention to their dog, I mean, if I had not reacted his dog would have been dead, as I told him actually... I always pay attention to other dogs and people to make sure aggressive/scared people or dogs are not upset by my dog, but this time it was a narrow pavement so I had a limited about of room.

I don't know, I guess I am just annoyed that his dog reacted that way and I had to deal with it and my own dog.

keslake

657 posts

207 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Absolutely agree,

I have lost count of the number of small yappy types that want to take a chunk out of my Bullmastiff.

I cannot fathom out the mentality of these small dogs, it's like a child
going up to Lennox Lewis and saying 'avit !

In all fairness though my boy just looks at them, although not sure what is going through his mind, disbelief maybe.

Luckily only one has actually launched an attack ( the 3 staffs aren't included ) which was a wired hair terrier.
Bit him on his leg so he put a paw down and flattened it then picked it up in his mouth.
Luckily he listened to me and let go when it started squeaking and no harm done.....terriers owner agreed his dog deserved it so all ended well.

Karyn

6,053 posts

169 months

Sunday 15th July 2012
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Jasandjules said:
With those small aggressive dogs allow them to run at and snarl/snap at other dogs?
Gargamel said:
and then get offended when my large dog snarls and snaps back at them.
A million times, this. Again, and again, and again, and again.

:rollseyes:


I cross the road when I see a terrier, now.

XG332

3,927 posts

189 months

Sunday 15th July 2012
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It's always the small horrid dogs that like to chase and go under the wheels of my bike when I am riding, be it down a canal tow path or country lanes they are always waiting to run out.

Jasandjules

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69,947 posts

230 months

Sunday 15th July 2012
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keslake said:
In all fairness though my boy just looks at them, although not sure what is going through his mind, disbelief maybe.
Thing is mine are guard dogs so all they see is a threat, and they react to take it out....... Today we were out having a picnic and a few small and aggressive, and of course off lead dogs came close to us snapping and yelling...

rasputin

1,449 posts

207 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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Same goes for small dogs as big dogs - blame the owner, not the animal.

Size means nothing to dogs. Unfortunately people tend to treat small fluffy dogs like rabbits. They don't get discipline or mental stimulation, and when they give anti-social body language they are picked up in the air and cuddled which is very confusing.

rasputin

1,449 posts

207 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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Jasandjules said:
Thing is mine are guard dogs
Don't you have Labs? Surely not the easiest dogs to train as guard dogs!

To the untrained eye Mac looks like a guard dog. He's very alert when he sees strangers outside the house and might even give them a whispered bark or two...

But we know what he's actually saying:
"OMG look, daddy look! there's someone outside maybe they're going to give me cuddles!!!!!! What if they have food? Oh oh ohohohoh I hope they have food!!!!!!!!!! HEY! HEY YOU! THE DOOR'S THIS WAY! FOLLOW MY BARK AND BRING FOOD!!!!"

If anyone broke in they'd be greeted with this pose:

Jasandjules

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230 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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rasputin said:
Don't you have Labs? Surely not the easiest dogs to train as guard dogs!
Nope!! And nope - well unless someone has a mysterious and deadly aversion to dog slobber!!

Grey Ghost

4,583 posts

221 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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Having owned dogs for 15 years or more now I'm bored with the usual exchanges after this sort of incident. I now just explain to the owner of the other dog "if your dog attacks my dog I will attack you".

If you cannot control a dog you should not own one.

bexVN

14,682 posts

212 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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Guess I'm lucky that I have a dog that doesn't rise to other dogs that bark and snap at him, as a result other dogs tend to back down quickly, no trouble caused.

The one dog that outright went nuts at him even though he backed off and did his utmost to avoid conflict was a boxer. My dog got a bite on the ear and I got bitten on the arm by it!

The only other (major) incident was a dobermann but that was a strange one as it was not a fight.

I did yell at a couple of springers that tried to leap all over him the other day, they weren't attacking him but they were being bolshy and frightening him and almost forced him in the water which he would've hated and was trying to avoid. The owner was right next to me apologising (yeah well stop your dogs being bullies!). That shook Jimmy up yet he still didn't fight back!

Jasandjules

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Monday 16th July 2012
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bexVN said:
Guess I'm lucky that I have a dog that doesn't rise to other dogs that bark and snap at him, as a result other dogs tend to back down quickly, no trouble caused.
Well that's the thing you see, my dogs deal with threats as part of their instinct, and that means doggy body language or conduct which is aggressive will result in my dogs reacting to dispose of that threat, friendly dogs are greeted and the "let's play bow" usually issued, or the world's waggiest tail competition is invoked... But any dog that gets close enough giving off aggression will pay the penalty - and some owners seem to think if their dogs comes over and attacks but then ends up injured and needing vet treatment, that it's our fault!!

I can't believe just how many aggressive dogs there are in my village.



CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

227 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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Grey Ghost said:
"...I will attack you".
Powerfully built, eh?

Simpo Two

85,559 posts

266 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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Grey Ghost said:
Having owned dogs for 15 years or more now I'm bored with the usual exchanges after this sort of incident. I now just explain to the owner of the other dog "if your dog attacks my dog I will attack you".

If you cannot control a dog you should not own one.
Agree entirely, but threatening to attack someone constitutes assault, elevating the incident from legal to illegal.

bexVN

14,682 posts

212 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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Jasandjules said:
bexVN said:
Guess I'm lucky that I have a dog that doesn't rise to other dogs that bark and snap at him, as a result other dogs tend to back down quickly, no trouble caused.
Well that's the thing you see, my dogs deal with threats as part of their instinct, and that means doggy body language or conduct which is aggressive will result in my dogs reacting to dispose of that threat, friendly dogs are greeted and the "let's play bow" usually issued, or the world's waggiest tail competition is invoked... But any dog that gets close enough giving off aggression will pay the penalty - and some owners seem to think if their dogs comes over and attacks but then ends up injured and needing vet treatment, that it's our fault!!

I can't believe just how many aggressive dogs there are in my village.
You could argue that my dogs instinct is not to react in fact he tends to just stand motionless, hence the fact that I've had owners say their dogs aren't usually friendly (whilst they're playing with Jimmy smile)

I feel quite proud when I have the upper hand over owners with annoying dogs. They are usually busy apologising whilst telling their dogs to behave more like mine!

I much prefer this to worrying that he is going to retaliate. I think he'd have had a few more wounds to deal with by now if he was that way inclined.

He is not a complete push over he will bark at a dog if they are ott with playing but that's about it.

boobles

15,241 posts

216 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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One of my neighbours was out with his dog last week (it's an old dog from a resue home) & it's always on the lead. Anyway, women walking towards them with her dog of the lead attacks my neighbours dog & it required a visit to the vets & cost £200 for stitches etc. The lady had left her number but it turns out she gave a false number! mad