Just saved a Pigeon

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nick heppinstall

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281 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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I've just rescued a Wood Pigeon from a Kestrel. I couldnt just watch it get killed on my doorstep. Especially as it could be one of the regulars at our bird table.

Arrived home from the shop to much noise from the local Maggies and some something that looked odd at the bottom of the road. Walked a little closer to see it was a Kestrel with its wings open standing over a Pigeon.

Walked a little closer and the Kestrel attempted to lift off but the Pigeon was too big and it only managed about 6ft before dropping it. At this point i'm about 6 feet away. Kestrel has one last go then flies off.

Pigeon is huddled in a corner next to a bush. I pick him / her up and take it to our garden. I've just put it in a spare Hutch we have and left it alone. Their was a fair bit of blood on my hands.

Any advice welcome.

No I should have just left it comments please.

AdiT

1,025 posts

158 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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...or to look at it another way; You've just starved a Kestral.


bexVN

14,682 posts

212 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Truth is you should have though. It's nature. You may not have done it any favours. It could be badly injured and may die more slowly than he would have done.

However it may be ok but I'd suggest as you have interfered with nature (which is understandable) you need to get the pigeon checked out by a vet (it won't cost you) if very badly injured they'll put it to sleep. If not bad you may be able to re release it.

Is it still where you left it?

nick heppinstall

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281 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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bexVN said:
Truth is you should have though. It's nature. You may not have done it any favours. It could be badly injured and may die more slowly than he would have done.

However it may be ok but I'd suggest as you have interfered with nature (which is understandable) you need to get the pigeon checked out by a vet (it won't cost you) if very badly injured they'll put it to sleep. If not bad you may be able to re release it.

Is it still where you left it?
Yeah I left it in the Hutch ! It seems chirpy smile enough. I've put a bit of bread in their and some water. Tried to make a break for freedom when I opened the door !

SMGB

790 posts

140 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Brilliant if it recovers. keep it warm and fed and if it can fly let it go. I would have saved it myself, regulars become part of the family although wood pigeons are anything but a threatened species. I have knwn people keep wood pigeons in an aviary if the couldnt fly, they ever really settle though. if you take it to a vet all they will want to do is pugt it down

nick heppinstall

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281 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Cheers all. I'll let you know what happens.

bexVN

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212 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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SMGB said:
Brilliant if it recovers. keep it warm and fed and if it can fly let it go. I would have saved it myself, regulars become part of the family although wood pigeons are anything but a threatened species. I have knwn people keep wood pigeons in an aviary if the couldnt fly, they ever really settle though. if you take it to a vet all they will want to do is pugt it down
No they won't, not if they have chance of being released. Wild birds should only be kept captive if the person has a licence to do so. We send them onto Secret World.

Op if keeping then you need fo purchase appropriate food. Wild burn seed suitable for pigeons.

nick heppinstall

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Friday 9th November 2012
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bexVN said:
No they won't, not if they have chance of being released. Wild birds should only be kept captive if the person has a licence to do so. We send them onto Secret World.

Op if keeping then you need fo purchase appropriate food. Wild burn seed suitable for pigeons.
I have no intention of keeping it. It's warm, dry and secure in a nice sized Rabbit Hutch with a bit of food and water if it feels upto it. If it survives the night I'll let it go. If it cant fly then i'll stick it back in the Hutch while I consider what to do.

Worse case scenerio Pigeon Pie for Tuesdays tea.

Davey S2

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255 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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nick heppinstall said:
If it survives the night I'll let it go.
And if it doesnt it will have had a long probably painful death.

Credit to you for trying to help but I cant help thinking you have done the wrong thing and should just have just let nature happen.

nick heppinstall

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Friday 9th November 2012
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Davey S2 said:
And if it doesnt it will have had a long probably painful death.

Credit to you for trying to help but I cant help thinking you have done the wrong thing and should just have just let nature happen.
Well you're entitled to your opinion of course. Time will tell if I've made the wrong choice or not. Same scenerio I would do exactly the same again.

I saved a Black Bird from a Cat last year under very similar circumstances. It was one of a pair nesting in the tree in our garden. Put it in a box over night and released it the next morning. They raised a nice brood between them.

Should I have left the Cat to it ? Maybe and maybe not.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

205 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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nick heppinstall said:
Davey S2 said:
And if it doesnt it will have had a long probably painful death.

Credit to you for trying to help but I cant help thinking you have done the wrong thing and should just have just let nature happen.
Well you're entitled to your opinion of course. Time will tell if I've made the wrong choice or not. Same scenerio I would do exactly the same again.

I saved a Black Bird from a Cat last year under very similar circumstances. It was one of a pair nesting in the tree in our garden. Put it in a box over night and released it the next morning. They raised a nice brood between them.

Should I have left the Cat to it ? Maybe and maybe not.
The Kestrel needs to eat. It will kill another Pigeon instead. If you'd left alone then we'd have 1 dead Pigeon and one fed Kestrel. As of now we'll have 1 injured Pigeon, one fed Kestrel and STILL one dead Pigeon (just a different one). You're better off not interfering really. /2cents.

OllieC

3,816 posts

215 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Surprised to hear a Kestrel going for a Pigeon, thought that would be far too big to manage. I guess it was as he couldn't take off !

Don't Kestrels normally eat mice and such ? maybe he has been reading the dirty takeaways thread and got over excited about portion size.

Japveesix

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169 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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nick heppinstall said:
I saved a Black Bird from a Cat last year under very similar circumstances. It was one of a pair nesting in the tree in our garden. Put it in a box over night and released it the next morning. They raised a nice brood between them.

Should I have left the Cat to it ? Maybe and maybe not.
There's a fairly big difference between a kestrel and a cat, and not just that one is a bird and the other a mammal.

I'd happily save anything I could from any cat (assuming the caught beast had a chance of surviving) and have done in the past. The only thing I'd even consider "rescuing" from a kestrel (or any other native, wild bird of prey) would be my own pets, and that's never going to happen with my current pets.

Poor decision imo, hope it lives though so it was worthwhile smile

nick heppinstall

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Saturday 10th November 2012
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Good news this morning. Uncovered the Hutch and it looked pretty well. Opened the door and we all stood and watched.

Took him a few minutes to pluck up courage but he eventually did and flew up onto our Eve's.

Stood their looking at us for a minute then shot off at high speed over the houses across the road.



Edited by nick heppinstall on Saturday 10th November 10:25

CraigMST

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166 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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Well done.
It survived.
Even if the Kestral does go and add a different pigeon to the menu atleast it didn't happen infront of your eyes.

Edited by CraigMST on Saturday 10th November 11:39

nick heppinstall

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Saturday 10th November 2012
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CraigMST said:
Well done.
It survived.
Even if the Kestral does go and add a different pigeon to the menu atleast it didn't happen infront of your eyes.

Edited by CraigMST on Saturday 10th November 11:39
Exactly smile

offendi

244 posts

148 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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A kestrel doing a pigeon ? are you sure?

Must be PH kestrel - powerfully built =D

CraigMST

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166 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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offendi said:
A kestrel doing a pigeon ? are you sure?

Must be PH kestrel - powerfully built =D
Must have only had 1 directorship because it dropped the pigeon smile

nick heppinstall

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Saturday 10th November 2012
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CraigMST said:
Must have only had 1 directorship because it dropped the pigeon smile
Well it did have a can of Red Bull in the other Talon .....

Himself

483 posts

148 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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nick heppinstall said:
No I should have just left it comments please.
Ok.