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Pvapour

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8,981 posts

254 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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anyone got any experience with these?

we live on a farm and we like Tia to roam pretty much free, she's a Husky so an inherently likely to wander.

she's a year old now and not showing any real tendencies to wander past our boundaries, they're pretty big so maybe she never will but you never know....

had a brief look at what's available, the USA pettracker looks good (small and neat) but no go for europe, so moved onto www.retrievatracking.co.uk but it looks incredibly bulky, not really discreet for her, on top of the tick collar and name tag she'll soon be weighed down and going nowhere anyway!

any different ideas or recommendations for a different tarcker?

GokTweed

3,799 posts

152 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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http://www.loc8tor.com/uk/promotions/loc8tor-pet/l...

doesn't give an exact location but could point you in the right direction

Pvapour

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8,981 posts

254 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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cheers, 400ft range though frown wouldn't even get half way across our patch unfortunately

this is why I was leaning toward GPS, the Garmin GTU 10 looks ok but waiting to hear if our area is covered on their mapping.

GokTweed

3,799 posts

152 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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I'll start a research project at uni about developing a tracking device that can be remotely activated and sit under the skin like a microchip, i'll make a killing smile

Pvapour

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8,981 posts

254 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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GokTweed said:
I'll start a research project at uni about developing a tracking device that can be remotely activated and sit under the skin like a microchip, i'll make a killing smile
now we're talking! what are you waiting for? get to it man!! smile will it be ready for Christmas? biggrin



Jasandjules

69,927 posts

230 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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GokTweed said:
I'll start a research project at uni about developing a tracking device that can be remotely activated and sit under the skin like a microchip, i'll make a killing smile
Except under the skin may leech harmful things into the dog. Or move, as microchips can do causing major problems.

One for a collar however...

GokTweed

3,799 posts

152 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Jasandjules said:
GokTweed said:
I'll start a research project at uni about developing a tracking device that can be remotely activated and sit under the skin like a microchip, i'll make a killing smile
Except under the skin may leech harmful things into the dog. Or move, as microchips can do causing major problems.

One for a collar however...
Some animals don't like a collar though or can get their legs caught in them, you don't want to see the result of that. I suppose its about relative risk between the two. It would be encapsulated like the chip to stop leakage or initiating an immune response.

GokTweed

3,799 posts

152 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Pvapour said:
GokTweed said:
I'll start a research project at uni about developing a tracking device that can be remotely activated and sit under the skin like a microchip, i'll make a killing smile
now we're talking! what are you waiting for? get to it man!! smile will it be ready for Christmas? biggrin
On it! maybe next year or earlier depending on how the chinese play out wink

randlemarcus

13,528 posts

232 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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A nice big DC charging mat would be amusing.

Dan_1981

17,402 posts

200 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Isn't the problem with under the skin ones battery life?

GokTweed

3,799 posts

152 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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randlemarcus said:
A nice big DC charging mat would be amusing.
The beauty of it being activated by a remote means it should a decent period of time and then it can be replaced every couple of years. Or recharged wirelessly like the rolls royce hybrid concept thing by using a magnetic pad or something.

Might be costly mind.

DKL

4,498 posts

223 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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There are plenty of long range radio tracking collars that wildlife studies use in Africa - they work over miles and miles. I had a conversation with someone at Aberdeen uni once about it. The smaller ones were getting towards the size practical for a big dog but maybe not a cat. Not sure about cost mind.
We use the Loc8tors on our 4 and generally its useful and has certainly has saved us a few grey hairs and lost collars over the last couple of years. Keep a good supply of spare batteries and make sure you test them every week or so. No point having a lost animal and wondering if the damn collar is working. Also get the inline silicone covers not the dangly pendant style ones, you won't have so many dead batteries as they dip it in their water bowl.

Having said all that the one time we did lose one good and proper and didn't get her back for 6 weeks I couldn't pick her up on this gadget at all. It did work when she was returned to us too so they are not infallible by any means. For the money

Jasandjules

69,927 posts

230 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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GokTweed said:
Some animals don't like a collar though or can get their legs caught in them, you don't want to see the result of that. I suppose its about relative risk between the two. It would be encapsulated like the chip to stop leakage or initiating an immune response.
Yes, there is a trade off.

But an awful lot of chips move and can cause all sorts of problems. Not sure how to get round that.

GokTweed

3,799 posts

152 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Jasandjules said:
GokTweed said:
Some animals don't like a collar though or can get their legs caught in them, you don't want to see the result of that. I suppose its about relative risk between the two. It would be encapsulated like the chip to stop leakage or initiating an immune response.
Yes, there is a trade off.

But an awful lot of chips move and can cause all sorts of problems. Not sure how to get round that.
I suppose finding a better place to implant them rather than inbetween the shoulder blades might do the trick as there's a lot of movement going on there anyway. Perhaps engineering a smaller one to go under the skin in the ear?

Admittedly the ears move but there's no muscles in the pinna just cartillage and skin so it could be stable assuming the cat doesn't scratch the hell out of it!

Pvapour

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8,981 posts

254 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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some good info smile

I think maybe the shoulder blades are selected due to inaccessibility of the dogs/cats scratching ability, very few places they cant get to unfortunately (lucky gits smile)

i think a combo lightweight collar, maybe CF or titanium that combines all the things pet owners need: name tag, GPS, flea deterrent, hoop for lead.

it could be solar charged to? think there's new solar eergy hitting the market right now that's far more efficient...

pet owners are pretty much ok with a collar of somekind, if you could do a collar that ticked that many boxes you could then charge good money, trouble is the expiry dates of chemicals used on the tick collars scratchchin maybe a capsule of the chemical with a container on the collar that disperses like the room air freshener stuff?

maybe looking for to much to soon biggrin but I guess once a mini tracking device has been invented (go gokteed!!) then talks with all the other prospective market leaders to form a combo?

not sure Tia will see that day though frown

in the meantime the Garmin GU10 looks the most compact, not heard back on the map coverage front yet, loc8tor looks quite bulky to me, Tias only 18kg, what size are your chums DKL?

DKL

4,498 posts

223 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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The loc8tor tags are fine size wise, about an 2.5cm long, 5mm deep and 1cm wide. They don't cause any issues.

size13

2,022 posts

258 months

Wednesday 12th December 2012
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Just looking at the Loc8tor...

the pet version is £64.99 and includes 2 tags, the handset and a few different tag cases
the lite version is £34.99 and includes 2 tags, the handset and no cases

the cases are either 5.99 or 8.99 for a pack of 2

Am I right in working out that it's cheaper to buy the lite version + 2x cases
Am I missing something?

Ideally we'd also like another handset as we both walk the dog and it'll be easier that remembering to hand it over

Edited by size13 on Wednesday 12th December 11:45