11yr old Lab with arthritis.... Yumove or Flexivet

11yr old Lab with arthritis.... Yumove or Flexivet

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del 203

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12,728 posts

250 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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Anyone have any experience of these two ?


Yumove


Flexivet


The old boy is very stiff when getting up, limps for 3 or 4 paces on right rear (hip i think), i wonder if he is also a little sore more of the time but puts up with it.

He had a course of Rimadyl a month or so ago but i don't think it helped that much and i don't really want to keep him on them anyway with the potential liver damage frown

The vet isn't 100% its arthritis but the £350 sedation and xray + Meds seems a bit extreme for 3 stiff paces so thinking about trying these.

The vet also isn't that keen on sedation because he has some occasional fits.

Have read a bit on both and the Yumove appears to have more feedback...





Gratuitous pic of Dan the 11 year retired (inherited) guide dog




Thanks in advance smile



Jasandjules

69,945 posts

230 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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Try speaking to ainsworths, they will be able to give you a list of products I suspect.

pincher

8,576 posts

218 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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Dan bouncewavey

del 203

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Sunday 23rd December 2012
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Jasandjules said:
Try speaking to ainsworths, they will be able to give you a list of products I suspect.
Will do but they look £££ yikes



pincher said:
Dan bouncewavey
Out for a walk soon wink

bexVN

14,682 posts

212 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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He's 11, he deserves to have a few quid spent on him to help him.

Arthritis is debilitating for a dog and can make theif life a misery. There is a lot you can so to help, including diet (ensure good quality) weight control (overweight dogs struggle more) appropriate exercise regimes (4 shorter walks every day rather than 1 long walk) Good quality supplements (I don't know the above very well) pain relief used on a long term basis rather than intermittent. Hydrotherapy and physiotherapy.

That should be enough to keep you busy. Why does your vet think it might not be arthritis. As long as they avoid acepromazine for his sedation he should be fine re: his fits, so xrays should really be considered esp if arthritis is not the top cause.

Jasandjules

69,945 posts

230 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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Also glucosamine, Vit C as much as they can take.

But Ainsworths is usually pretty cheap, and tends to work well on elder dogs (had a few friends try them now on elderly dogs including one with bad HD and it has improved him a lot)

randlemarcus

13,528 posts

232 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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Rufus (10) swears by(or at least barks by) a daily tin of tuna chunks in brine. His slightly stiff back right leg is by no means that of a two year old, but he moves a lot more easily.

del 203

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12,728 posts

250 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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bexVN said:
He's 11, he deserves to have a few quid spent on him to help him.

Arthritis is debilitating for a dog and can make theif life a misery. There is a lot you can so to help, including diet (ensure good quality) weight control (overweight dogs struggle more) appropriate exercise regimes (4 shorter walks every day rather than 1 long walk) Good quality supplements (I don't know the above very well) pain relief used on a long term basis rather than intermittent. Hydrotherapy and physiotherapy.

That should be enough to keep you busy. Why does your vet think it might not be arthritis. As long as they avoid acepromazine for his sedation he should be fine re: his fits, so xrays should really be considered esp if arthritis is not the top cause.
Thank you for your advice with regards a few quid & if i was in the position at the moment i would be willing to pay thousands !!


I can assure you his diet (a not cheap prescription diet) & other supplements are of top quality ..

I said the vet isn't 100% its arthritis, the way i took it was the only way to confirm was for an xray to rule all other possibility's out...


Thank you for your advice and suggestions all (apart from the blindingly obvious) taken in...


Just off for his 3rd short walk of the day



Jasandjules said:
Also glucosamine, Vit C as much as they can take.

But Ainsworths is usually pretty cheap, and tends to work well on elder dogs (had a few friends try them now on elderly dogs including one with bad HD and it has improved him a lot)
Will call them tks smile


randlemarcus said:
Rufus (10) swears by(or at least barks by) a daily tin of tuna chunks in brine. His slightly stiff back right leg is by no means that of a two year old, but he moves a lot more easily.
Hello mate long time smile


I'd rather keep him off that if possible wink



If anyone has used either of the two i asked about it would be great to hear how you got on...


Many tks

bexVN

14,682 posts

212 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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What's blindingly obvious to some isn't to others. I don't know you or your knowledge so apologies for trying to be thorough and covering ALL areas of tx that are important for arthritis care.

I would say if the vet isn't convinced that it us arthritis then it's even more important to consider xrays.

evoivboy

930 posts

147 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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we use yumove for our retrievers, works very well we give them 3 each per day and noticed a considerable change from without tablets, we get them from here http://www.medicanimal.com/product/~product_id=103...
with discounts i get them for £26

del 203

Original Poster:

12,728 posts

250 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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bexVN said:
What's blindingly obvious to some isn't to others. I don't know you or your knowledge so apologies for trying to be thorough and covering ALL areas of tx that are important for arthritis care.

I would say if the vet isn't convinced that it us arthritis then it's even more important to consider xrays.
Sorry if my reply was tart but have been close (Mum was one of 1st guide dog owners in the South East)to dogs for a few years wink

Just parallel thinking atm smile

I will get a second Vet opinion anyway many tks again

He WONT go without wink


Will also update on how below goes




evoivboy said:
we use yumove for our retrievers, works very well we give them 3 each per day and noticed a considerable change from without tablets, we get them from here http://www.medicanimal.com/product/~product_id=103...
with discounts i get them for £26
Many tks will give them a try smile




Jasandjules

69,945 posts

230 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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Also apple cider vinegar (with mother).

Dennis99

308 posts

164 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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What about devil's claw?

ClassicMercs

1,703 posts

182 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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Magnetic Collar

Grey Ghost

4,583 posts

221 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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Del,

My Golden Retriever had the same issues as he got older and our vet recommended we put him on Glucosamine tablets but asked to make sure they were the ones with Chondroitin in them. From memory we used "natures best" and Fred was on these for 3 1/2 years before he had to be put to sleep aged 14 years and 3 months - a bloody good innings for a full pedigree Goldie biggrin

He certainly benefitted from the tablets being added to his meals, 1 per meal twice a day, and after 2-3 months of regular medication (it takes a while for the dose to become effective) he was clearly better on his feet and enjoying being in the garden and going for short walks again.

You can get the tablets from most health food stores and we used to stock up whenever they were on a 2 for 1 offer even though they were not expensive anyway. Have a chat with your vet about using them before you take the plunge but it worked wonders on Fred and extended his life considerably thumbup

NathanJones

713 posts

214 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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Our vet told us to go along to a supermarket and purchase Glucosamine Sulphate 400mg, as our 11 year old was very stiff in a morning, have to say it works.

2.5pi

1,066 posts

183 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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Our elderly retreivers have been transformed by yumove , heartily recommended , walks now back up to a mile or two as opposed to reluctant staggers of only a few hundred yards thumbup

Rouleur

7,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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I use Yumove, Vit E and cod liver oil from Holland & Barratts for my Springer who has a touch of arthritis. They seem to do the trick.

A couple of people have mentioned glucosamine sulphate but having done a lot of reading around on this topic the consensus seems to be that it's not as effective as the natural version made from green lipped mussels.